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That's true, but inflation isn't the best index because it's an average and doesn't take into account the rising income inequality. You really have to compare CTA fares to the income trend of the lowest wage-earners, not the economy as a whole. The problem is that CTA's costs are not scaling in line with working-class wages, because CTA's costs are driven by labor and that labor is unionized.
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Interesting if true. It's great that CTA is so democratic. Do you have a source?
I'm still not sure it matters, though. Raising CTA fares, even just to match inflation, will still disproportionately affect the lowest wage-earners, whose wages are not rising in parallel with inflation. |
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How long does it take to decorate the car?
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Damn, that's pretty cool
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must be a perminant setup. |
^ Would be an easy way to convert the naysayers on the new aisle-facing railcars.
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cant believe i helped elect this moronic prick. i mean seriously???? Does this idiot have the slightest clue about the need for affordable mass transit? i honestly thought this guy would have some basic understanding of urban planning and development. boy was i wrong. he is a political ass clown with no sense whatsoever in these matters.
even if you agree prices had to go up, or really, even if you have a big mouth and are generally known as an asshole like him, you dont say what he said unless you are clueless. Emanuel on CTA increases : Chicagoans can choose to drive http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/p...0,793097.story By John Byrne Clout Street 4:10 p.m. CST, November 26, 2012 Mayor Rahm Emanuel had a message Monday for CTA riders upset about upcoming fare hikes: they’re not really fare increases, public transit remains a bargain and commuters can “make that choice” about whether to drive or take buses and trains. “Fares stayed the same. Basic fares stayed the same, which you cannot say about gas prices,” said Emanuel in his first public comments since the CTA announced a 2013 budget proposal last week. |
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2013 CTA Holiday Train at East Cottage Grove
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The six passenger cars are CTA 2893-2898, but surprisingly they are not consisted in numerical order. DH |
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Having the Mayor come out and say "It is what it is, if you don't like it don't use it... I dare you" is childish and irresponsible. The CTA rail system has seen years of steady growth, why on earth would you say anything to jeopardize that, especially when the most sought after constituents are likely the ones with the ability to choose others means of transit... or cities. |
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On some level, I sympathize... the CTA simply can't keep plowing capital investment into operations, or the transit-dependent will really be up shit creek when the viaducts start falling down. CTA can't rely on strong growth in sales or real-estate tax revenues to balance the budget, either, which leaves fare increases and labor adjustments. Claypool has done both - it was unrealistic to expect him to make up the shortfall entirely through playing hardball with the unions. However, Rahm's rhetoric is really disappointing. I'd love to see an attempt to expand reduced-fare programs (and reduce barriers to access) in conjunction with any fare increases. That would be the compassionate approach... |
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Before you say that's insensitive, consider this: Currently, if you're poor enough to need assistance in Chicago, you have to go to one agency for housing assistance, one for medical assistance, one for transit assistance, etc. Wouldn't it be far more compassionate and humanizing for those in need to be able to go to one agency, get their income situation evaluated one time, and then have access to whatever it is they need assistance with? So I don't just advocate moving reduced fare media out of the CTA's purvey, but centralizing all the human services programs into one access point for those in need. THAT would be the compassionate thing to do, not having a bunch of different agencies that people need to decipher and separately qualify for. |
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Even if the CTA is still reasonably priced, and I agree that it is (I dont agree with the increase on the passes only though), what he said showed incredible insensitivity to the issues that working class people who use CTA deal with. Riding mass transit is a necessity for many and for them to be impacted in their wallet with no recourse, and to hear their problem completely dismissed by him, is a real slap in the face. Thats all i am complaining about. |
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Riding the trains with discounted fares isn't a necessity. In some locales, more than half the riders are using discounts. If the options were to reduce the discounts or reduce the services, I'll favor reducing the discounts every time. Personally, I would prefer to see all discounts eliminated, maybe-just-maybe the trains would not require as much subsidy if half the riders were not riding free or with half fares. |
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I think it's a huge misunderstanding. He even stated in the first place it's $50 to cab downtown from the airport many times, and it's $5 to take the train. If people have the choice to drive or take the train - they're obviously still goign to be fine with the price difference of taking the train. Gas prices go up up up, but transit prices don't slowly slide, and while they still need to increase, it's more of a sensation when it happens because it's more in big bursts than a few cents every month. |
^ I think Rahm did something that many mayors would cringe to do: be brutally honest in front of your constituents.
The most obvious example: pay $5.00 to take a 45-minute Blue line train downtown, or $45-50 for a cab that may get stuck in a 1-2 hour perpetual parking lot we call the Kennedy Expressway at the height of rush hour. Is it really that hard for some folks to understand this concept? Chicago's transit system is still a steal in comparison to other systems in a national and global context. Maybe I'm just being a prick, but that's how I see it... |
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Whether you’re a politician or a business person, empathy is necessary to reassure your clientele that you are giving them a fair deal. No one has adequately explained why passes are going up and not base fares, especially on a system that relies so heavily on passes. Everything I have read over the past few years suggests that people want small incremental increases, yet the CTA is setting up large one time increases without explaining why. Furthermore, no one in government has said that they understand it will be hard for some but the CTA needs the money. Instead it comes across as “why are you complaining, I am not raising fares, look how bad ass I am.” Or another example, he talked about the $5 fare from O'Hare as if it would only affect those going downtown. Now I agree, $5 to downtown is a good deal but what about $5 to Cumberland, Jefferson Park, etc. Quote:
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