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Lwize Nov 16, 2022 6:30 AM

The Oriental rug in my living room pays homage to the original Hall of Records building, and it's positioned on an angle.

Although images has been posted in the past, can anyone put up side-by-side aerial images of the 1913 Hall of Records - before and after street realignment?

Please?

odinthor Nov 16, 2022 5:34 PM

Poking around here and there for more on the Los Angeles Terminal Railway, I ran across the Gordon Arms Hotel on lovely Terminal Island.

I don't believe the Gordon Arms has been seen at NLA before:

https://i.postimg.cc/jjm6RHGm/Gordon-Arms-Hotel.jpg
From eBay; but originally from a piece in the June 1899 issue of Land of Sunshine.

Here's a murkier shot, showing it in its surroundings. We're looking towards San Pedro:

https://i.postimg.cc/7PMzRrYp/Gordon...-1900-6-24.jpg
LA Herald, 6/24/1900.

It became the Brighton Beach Hotel in 1901.

Flyingwedge Nov 16, 2022 9:50 PM

More Gordon Arms
 
:previous:

This article says the Gordon Arms opened on Saturday, July 1, 1899:


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...and_1_of_2.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...and_2_of_2.jpg

July 3, 1899, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LA Public Library

ethereal_reality Nov 17, 2022 7:47 PM

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Where art thou Denver Avenue?



ca.1895 Los Angeles, Calif. VICTORIAN HOUSE & Palm Tree, 919 Denver Ave

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/rwcWfv.jpg
eBay




reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1k2vVk.jpg




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ethereal_reality Nov 17, 2022 8:07 PM

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Does this home look familiar to anyone?

"Vintage Photograph House / Home / Residence - Los Angeles - Alhambra California - Original Photograph"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/kvwDCE.jpg
eBay (no longer listed)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/JPtECc.jpg

Mary Jane Plunkeet?..or..Plunket?

2345 Bush St., or should it be Busch St. :shrug:


Almost all references in the city directories refer to a Bush St. in San Francisco. That's why i thought it might be misspelled.

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odinthor Nov 17, 2022 9:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9793134)
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Where art thou Denver Avenue? :shrug:



ca.1895 Los Angeles, Calif. VICTORIAN HOUSE & Palm Tree, 919 Denver Ave

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/rwcWfv.jpg
eBay




reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1k2vVk.jpg




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e_r, Denver Avenue seems to have become Arapahoe Street about the beginning of 1897. We see the familiar name Charles Lummis as the writer of a note published on Valentine's Day 1897 crabbing somewhat cryptically about the changing of street names, from which I excerpt:

https://i.postimg.cc/q7vMBsjp/Arapahoe.jpg
LA Times, February 14, 1897

And indeed one T Nielsen "groceries and provisions" who was at the corner of Washington and Denver in 1896 is found at the (northeast) corner of Washington and Arapahoe in 1897 (info from the CDs). Denver Avenue seems to have run from 9th St. to Washington, going by various little references of the time in the LA Herald and LA Times.

ethereal_reality Nov 18, 2022 3:34 AM

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Excellent sleuthing. Thanks odinthor. :)

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riichkay Nov 18, 2022 4:20 AM

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

This permit is dated 12/2/1915, the city was still using Denver Ave. at that time.....and Mr. Dougherty was still the owner, although he had moved to E. 24th St.

CanyonKid Nov 18, 2022 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 9788187)
Dunno where the dealership was, but the car in the top picture is a 1951 Nash-Healey.

Cheers,

Earl

Don't know how I missed this. Beautiful ride! Thanks, Earl!

ethereal_reality Nov 18, 2022 6:34 PM

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This original snapshot of a dandy gentleman in downtown Los Angeles was listed on eBay a month or so ago. (I forgot to post it)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/1KTkL6.jpg






I'd love to know who this dude is. (here's a closer look)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HxeUyA.jpg

I see the Pantages Building down the street so this must be Broadway.*


*But there was also a Pantages at Hill and Seventh. I don't remember which location came first.
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ethereal_reality Nov 18, 2022 9:47 PM

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This amateur slide (dated 1951) is currently listed on eBay

Seller's description:.."Hollywood Los Angeles Nth from Sunset to Dower 35mm slide 1951" ..(the seller no doubt meant Gower, not Dower)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gm0ayG.jpg
eBay


What makes it especially interesting is that we have seen this exact same view earlier in the thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8905728)

Go HERE.

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HenryHuntington Nov 19, 2022 12:48 AM

Going out on a limb in trying to read license plates, I'll say 1940 and wait for corrections, e_r.

odinthor Nov 19, 2022 2:30 PM

At 4901 Telegraph Road in East LA will be found this unprepossessing structure:

https://i.postimg.cc/pXRKS9JQ/Grindall-4901-Tele.jpg
gsv

This view is from a few years ago; but I chose it rather than the current one because it still shows "Grindall Co."

Circa 1978, I had occasion to zoom past this building on the freeway every day I went to work. I looked forward to it, because at that time, it sported, with the company's name, a vivid and beautiful painted representation of a circular saw throwing off sparks. Some years later, it was repainted with much the same picture, but done with less skill; and ultimately, as we see, the picture disappeared altogether, and now in 2022 the company itself is gone.

In 1978-1979, I had every intention of stopping some day and taking a photo of that impressive wall-sign, just for memory's sake; but somehow, and regrettably, I never got around to it. And so I post this in the hope that, by some remarkable chance, someone else has a picture--or at least a fond memory--of this.

:cheers:

ethereal_reality Nov 20, 2022 5:39 PM

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I tried my darndest to find the circular saw giving off sparks, odinthor, but my quest ended in failure.

I did find out that the Grindall Co. occupied a similar building one block away.

This building.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HMUYU1.jpg
GSV


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/Xp8ZBJ.jpg
LAPL



4843 is on the left. . .4901 is on the right.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/N1cOP9.jpg

Of course this is neither here nor there in terms of the missing sign.


The closest I came to a circular saw in motion was this ad. (no sparks)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/CFkAuP.jpg


It's not the Grindall Co. but it's located in Los Angeles. (does that count? :))

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ethereal_reality Nov 20, 2022 8:20 PM

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re:..NAPLES RESTAURANT & BAR


Here's a closer look at the right side of the 1951 Gower Street photograph.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dnZUQ1.jpg
detail

See that yellowish area on the front of the Naples addition. :previous:




It turns out it is an artist's palette!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/JCD50U.jpg
exlibrisgroup

Free appetizer of fried calamari for anyone who can correctly count the Chianti bottles.





Let's take a look at the bar area.

I've made an attempt to name the people in the photographs.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/VYNP7Q.jpg

Can anyone fill in the blanks? (or correct my mistakes / if any)




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/qKNIef.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/PuVjOG.jpg
eBay



Lastly, here's a look at the right side of the 1940s photo before the Naples addition was built in front of the house.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/AKhwHf.jpg
detail



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John Maddox Roberts Nov 20, 2022 11:55 PM

The mustache belongs to Jerry Colonna. I found that very portrait photo on Google Images, but I can't post it.

CaliNative Nov 21, 2022 6:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9794457)
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This amateur slide (dated 1951) is currently listed on eBay

Seller's description:.."Hollywood Los Angeles Nth from Sunset to Dower 35mm slide 1951" ..(the seller no doubt meant Gower, not Dower)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gm0ayG.jpg
eBay


What makes it especially interesting is that we have seen this exact same view earlier in the thread.



Go HERE.

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Isn't the Hollywood Presbyterian Church in the background on or near Highland? Could this photo be looking north on Highland, or is the street too narrow to be Highland? Highland must be very close, probably to the right.

Looking at the Hollywood sign, I can almost make out the scar where "land" was until just a few years earlier. Didn't they remove "land" in the late 40s?

CaliNative Nov 21, 2022 6:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 9795609)
The mustache belongs to Jerry Colonna. I found that very portrait photo on Google Images, but I can't post it.

Agree. Appears to be Colonna, Bob Hope's sidekick for years back then.

Like ethereal says, Danny Thomas is about 3 photos to the right of Jimmy Durante, and just to the left of Collona with the lady in between? Who is the lady? My wild guess would be Mary Astor, but probably not. She has a Mary Astor hairdo. Could she be the actress who played D. Thomas's wife in "Make Room For Daddy", later called "The Danny Thomas Show", hence the photo proximity? Wikipedia says Jean Hagan played his wife in the first few years, followed by Marjorie Lord. The photo is pretty fuzzy. I don't think it is Hagan, well known for her roles in "The Asphalt Jungle" and the silent star in "Singing in the Rain", who can't do dialogue, who makes Debbie Reynolds dubb her singing. So, could the photo to the right of Thomas be Marjorie Lord?

Noir_Noir Nov 21, 2022 8:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9795511)
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re:..NAPLES RESTAURANT & BAR


Here's a closer look at the right side of the 1951 Gower Street photograph.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dnZUQ1.jpg
detail



The Naples Restaurant and Cocktail Lounge survived the demolition of it's old home in 1965 by moving next door to 1514 Gower.

Here it is in it's new place later that same year as seen on an Ed Ruscha drive-by shot.


https://i.imgur.com/e9HprAB.jpg
getty.edu

Lwize Nov 21, 2022 3:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9791707)
Although images has been posted in the past, can anyone put up side-by-side aerial images of the 1913 Hall of Records - before and after street realignment?

Anyone?


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