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ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2022 6:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9589831)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/M3pqUn.jpg

We have seen so many bizarre "theme" restaurants over the years, I was almost certain this one had been posted....
but nothing turned up in a search.

:previous: riichkay, I also thought that we had seen the Hangman's Tree but I was confusing it with old posts on the Hangman's Tree out in Calabasas.

This one.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/etsyQU.jpg


"Adjacent to the grocery store was the Oak Garage, named for the oak tree, known as "Hangman's Oak".




After that. . .
I fell into a Hangman's Tree rabbit hole and the deeper I got the more confused I became until I realized there were two Hangman's Trees on in Calabasas Road. (?) . . .possibly across from each other.



Here's an aerial of Calabasas Road in 1958....That's Leonis Adobe at upper right.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/7DTRYB.jpg
waterandpower

But that hangman's tree isn't the Oak Garage "Hanging Tree". From what I gather this tree used to stand next to the Calabasas Jail. (shown below)


Calabasas Jail, circa 1902

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/tBeNsk.jpg
csun

The Calabasas jail house was built in 1869 and was moved to Chatsworth in 1902. In 1910 the jail house was torn down. A corner of the Leonis Adobe can be seen between "hangman's tree" and the jail. The tree itself was later moved closer to Leonis Adobe.



And here's the Jail House "Hangman's Tree" in 1963. (five years after the aerial photo)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/0Ga2nV.jpg
leonisadobemuseum

And it's demise.

"In 1965, Rocketdyne needed to transport a prototype rocket through Calabasas to its testing facility in Simi Hills. The landmark tree (in bad shape at the time) created a bottleneck for the oversize load. To solve the problem, a crane operator carefully transported the lifeless 30-foot trunk down the road to Leonis Adobe, a Calabasas house once owned by a prominent nineteenth-century Basque rancher. Here the beloved mock gallows, concreted into place, stood until 1995, when a winter storm toppled it. The desiccated wood shattered instantly, and in the aftermath, someone absconded with the decorative noose."



The arguably more famous Oak Garage "Hangman's Tree" held on until 2017.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/UP4E85.jpg
theacorn





https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/9pngDR.jpg
theacorn


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ethereal_reality Apr 8, 2022 3:25 PM

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Here are 2 Original amateur Slides of the Tick Tock Restaurant.

The seller listed both slides as N. Hollywood (Toluca Lake) but, as you can see, the second slide with the very cool cars is the Hollywood location.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/YzBWrx.jpg
eBay











https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/5DgT5A.jpg
eBay



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ethereal_reality Apr 8, 2022 3:54 PM

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:previous:

I thought the 2nd slide looked familiar but I must have been thinking of this photo of the Hollywood Tick Tock posted by GaylordWilshire back in 2014.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/tqF6OH.jpg
skyscraperpage

Amazing, isn't it.

ethereal_reality Apr 8, 2022 4:02 PM

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Refresh my memory, folks..........
Have we seen the Tick Tock Auto Court?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/FMUPH9.jpg
link
................Sixty Modern Tourist Cabins
Will Rogers Highway...Where dat?..............................




Welcome! to Los Angeles.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/r8bvcS.jpg

Nice touch. :)



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Martin Pal Apr 8, 2022 4:57 PM

:previous:

I was trying to find when this auto court was built. I did find a used postcard of the place with a cancellation date of 1939.

Looking up Will Rogers Hwy. this info popped up: A congressional resolution to name Route 66 in honor of Will Rogers was considered in 1935 but was not finalized. The highway unofficially was dubbed the Will Rogers Highway by the U.S. Highway 66 Association in 1952.

Then there's this thoroughly researched blog post, posted a month ago titled:
Former US Route 60 and US Route 70 in the Los Angeles-Pomona Corridor

US Route 60 and US Route 70 were 1930's era additions to the US Route System within Southern California. Both US Route 60 and US Route 70 were both major transcontinental highways which spanned the width of the United States at their maximum extent. This blog features the alignment history of US Route 60 and US Route 70 from Los Angeles east to Pomona. As originally envisioned in the early drafts of US Route System what became US Route 66 in California was intended to be US Route 60.

http://www.gribblenation.org/2022/03...ute-70-in.html

I didn't read the whole thing, it's quite extensive with dozens of document photos, but so far haven't come across any mention of Will Rogers Hwy. in connection to it.
____________________

As for Harrison-Ramona Boulevard...

Harrison - ?

Ramona Blvd. - L.A.'s First Expressway
https://losangelespast.blogspot.com/...xpressway.html

ethereal_reality Apr 8, 2022 5:14 PM

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Thanks Martin Pal....You're quick! :)


mystery slides.

"1959 Orig Los Angeles Street Scene Cars Movie Theater 2 Kodachrome Photo Slides"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/5A4vmA.jpg
eBay

hmmmm. . . [scratches head]


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8WKiuM.jpg
eBay

All I can see, in terms of clues, "Chi Chi" and "Sizzling Steaks".



Good luck, minions. :whip:

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Palmero Apr 8, 2022 5:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9593144)
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Thanks Martin Pal....You're quick! :)


mystery slides.

"1959 Orig Los Angeles Street Scene Cars Movie Theater 2 Kodachrome Photo Slides"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/5A4vmA.jpg
eBay

hmmmm. . . [scratches head]


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8WKiuM.jpg
eBay

All I can see, in terms of clues, "Chi Chi" and "Sizzling Steaks".



Good luck, minions. :whip:

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Chi Chi Palm Springs at 217 N. Palm Canyon Drive. The mountains in the background is a giveaway.

Fascinating historical info here: https://www.desertsun.com/story/news...lumn/70218308/

HossC Apr 8, 2022 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9593046)

Refresh my memory, folks..........
Have we seen the Tick Tock Auto Court?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/FMUPH9.jpg
link
................Sixty Modern Tourist Cabins
Will Rogers Highway...Where dat?

Could this be the Tick Tock Auto Court? The road through the middle of the upper image was Ramona Boulevard in 1938. The lower-left image shows that the structure was still there in 1948, but the lower-right image shows it gone in 1952. The area just south of Ramona Boulevard is now home to Harrison Elementary School. The site is approximately 3 miles from City Hall, so 5 minutes' journey time seems about right. Today, the I-10 and El Monte Busway go through this location.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...kAutoCourt.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu/Historic Aerials

Bristolian Apr 9, 2022 12:47 AM

Tick Tock & Portholes
 
The Tick Tock Auto Court is fascinating to me. I don't recall seeing a motor hotel with actual garages for the guests. Just like home!

Changing subjects, this screenshot is from Joe Friday's opening monologue from The Fur Burglary from season 1, episode 9 of Dragnet, 1967. Sgt. Friday describes the location as East 5th Street.

https://i.imgur.com/BxoPwKU.png?1http://dragnetstyle.blogspot.com/201...-burglary.html

I recall seeing several bars here with the distinctive porthole window. e_r's 2017 post included a couple photos of Al's which can be seen here. Al's was also located on East 5th but they are clearly two different places. The one from Dragnet appears to be called "The Porthole". Were there two places, so similar, in the same vicinity?

BDiH Apr 9, 2022 2:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 9593583)
The Tick Tock Auto Court is fascinating to me. I don't recall seeing a motor hotel with actual garages for the guests. Just like home!

The M&M Motel in the San Fernando Valley still has garages for guests.

http://theblackdahliainhollywood.com...otel%20005.JPG

Martin Pal Apr 9, 2022 4:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9593144)
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mystery slides.

"1959 Orig Los Angeles Street Scene Cars Movie Theater 2 Kodachrome Photo Slides"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/5A4vmA.jpg
eBay

hmmmm. . . [scratches head]


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8WKiuM.jpg
eBay

All I can see, in terms of clues, "Chi Chi" and "Sizzling Steaks".
Good luck, minions. :whip:
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In the top photo, The 7th Voyage of Sinbad is playing at the movie theater. It was released on Dec. 23rd, 1958. (There's some Christmas decorations in the photo at the top left and right hand corners.) At first I was looking at the marquee on the right of center, which must be for the Chi Chi club.

Above, in the bottom photo, the store sign on the right, partially obscured by a palm tree and Growdough watermark, is most likely Sy Devore. He had a store near Hollywood & Vine and was a famous Hollywood tailor, often known as "The Man Who Dressed the Rat Pack."

Palm Springs location opened in 1958.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-apX08WRQS...2BDevore-1.jpg

From this posting about Sy Devore: HERE.
(Is it me, or is that a realllly large fire hydrant?)

Godzilla Apr 9, 2022 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9593945)
Palm Springs location opened in 1958.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-apX08WRQS...2BDevore-1.jpg

From this posting about Sy Devore: HERE.
(Is it me, or is that a realllly large fire hydrant?)




Fire hydrants always look bigger in the hot desert sun.




Bob and Sy

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fb3rwdL3F...25288%2529.jpghttps://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fb3rwdL3F...25288%2529.jpg




Sy and some crooner
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9zAwILh3t...nk-Sinatra.jpghttps://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9zAwILh3t...nk-Sinatra.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U5dwLK97b...52812%2529.jpghttps://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U5dwLK97b...52812%2529.jpg




Not to diminish Mr. Devore's standing, there were many perhaps lesser-known tailors and haberdashers serving the luminous luminaries:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7610994)
The London Shop spurred recollections of several other clothiers/haberdasheries, some of which received fleeting NLA mention and most of which were in Beverly Hills. Monte Factor (270 N Beverly Drive), Jerry Rothschild (710 and later 270 N. Beverly Drive), Mr. Guy (Rodeo) and Carroll & Co. (Rodeo). Brussell's University Store for Men (114 S. Beverly Drive Adjacent to Hamburger Hamlet at 122 So. Beverly Dr.).

Most of these stores moved around, e.g., the '56CD lists Mr. Guy at the Town & Country Stores across from the Farmers' Mkt at Third and Fairfax.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-X...othschilds.jpg

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7610994

ethereal_reality Apr 11, 2022 2:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palmero (Post 9593183)

Chi Chi Palm Springs at 217 N. Palm Canyon Drive. The mountains in the background is a giveaway.

Thanks Palmero! Excellent sleuthing.
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riichkay Apr 11, 2022 7:14 AM

A few random snapshots....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds
getty museum


"Woman on the corner of Winston St., 1940's".....although presumably excluding '42 through '45....


....and a companion photo....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds





https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

6th and Hill, 1948




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

No info at all on this one....judging by the attire I would guess about 1940....any location ideas?




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

"Margaret Lawson, 1943"......I ran "Pico Garage" in the '43 directory, nothing turned up.


Ms. Lawson's license plate is sporting a "V for Victory" tag, these were issued for 1943 only....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...370&fit=bounds

ethereal_reality Apr 11, 2022 5:47 PM

:previous:

Good eye, riichkay....I've never notice the V for Victory thingy.

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HossC Apr 11, 2022 7:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9594928)

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

No info at all on this one....judging by the attire I would guess about 1940....any location ideas?

This is obviously a different sign, but the typeface and frame are virtually the same. The title is "Festival in Chinatown", and the description says "A large group of young women dressed in traditional Chinese costumes pose for a group photo underneath a sign 'This is Old Los Angeles.' Tents and Chinese lanterns in the background give this occasion a festive air." It's dated circa 1940. I haven't identified the building behind the sign, but its proximity to City Hall suggests we're probably near the Plaza.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...isIsOldLA1.jpg
LAPL

The awning on the left side of riichkay's photo appears to say "JEWELRY" or "JEWELER(S)". Could the trees behind it be in the Plaza?

ethereal_reality Apr 12, 2022 2:48 AM

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Here's a bit of a mystery.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/oVVA7G.jpg
eBay (no longer listed) unless I just can't find it again.


Hmm. . a museum. . .in a house. .in Los Angeles?





Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/2pzllf.jpg

Any ideas? :shrug:


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Mackerm Apr 12, 2022 10:03 AM

:previous: :previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9596002)
eBay (no longer listed) unless I just can't find it again.


Tip: you can use the "completed items" option to find the original listing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9594928)
A few random snapshots....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds
getty museum


"Woman on the corner of Winston St., 1940's".....although presumably excluding '42 through '45....

I'm pretty confident this is the intersection of Los Angeles St. and Winston, looking northeast. The grating in the gutter is a match, as is the curve of the street.

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9594928)
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

No info at all on this one....judging by the attire I would guess about 1940....any location ideas?

Maybe something ER discussed back in 2017: Old Los Angeles - World Center.

Pretty merciless with the Pico House and the Lugo adobe. I guess that's a faked photo of the bell tower across from Union Station. Some people prefer mock historic buildings to real ones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9593046)
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Refresh my memory, folks..........
Have we seen the Tick Tock Auto Court?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/FMUPH9.jpg
link
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The sign still exists (Credit to Esotouric and @eastsideponcho on instagram. You can see it in the Googlemobile at the intersection of Goodrich Blvd. and Amalia Ave.

bighen Apr 12, 2022 10:57 AM

Old Los Angeles sign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9595517)
This is obviously a different sign, but the typeface and frame are virtually the same. The title is "Festival in Chinatown", and the description says "A large group of young women dressed in traditional Chinese costumes pose for a group photo underneath a sign 'This is Old Los Angeles.' Tents and Chinese lanterns in the background give this occasion a festive air." It's dated circa 1940. I haven't identified the building behind the sign, but its proximity to City Hall suggests we're probably near the Plaza.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...isIsOldLA1.jpg
LAPL

The awning on the left side of riichkay's photo appears to say "JEWELRY" or "JEWELER(S)". Could the trees behind it be in the Plaza?

I think this sign was located on the east side of Los Angeles Street and just south of Ferguson Alley. The jewelry store is "Jin Hing Co" located on 446 1/2 Los Angeles Street with the side facing the infamous "Calle los Negroes."

The picture with the Chinese girls dressed was probably taken when Madame Chang Kai Sheik came to Los Angeles in 1943 and across the street from the Garnier Building in the Plaza.

I think the sign was taken down in the late 1940's in order to make way for the Hollywood Freeway and the on-ramp from Alameda.

ethereal_reality Apr 12, 2022 8:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 9596182)
:previous: :previous:

Tip: you can use the "completed items" option to find the original listing.

Thanks for the tip, Mackerm. :)



re: The Tick Tock Auto Court.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 9596182)

The sign still exists (Credit to Esotouric and @eastsideponcho on instagram. You can see it in the Googlemobile at the intersection of Goodrich Blvd. and Amalia Ave.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/1Ou8Eu.jpg

I remember seeing this years and years ago but couldn't remember where I'd seen it. ...Special kudos to esotouric.




And other aspects of the auto court still exists.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/jqlKAi.jpg
GSV





https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/s3ya54.jpg
GSV


It should be landmarked.

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Noir_Noir Apr 12, 2022 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9594928)


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

No info at all on this one....judging by the attire I would guess about 1940....any location ideas?


Quote:

Originally Posted by bighen (Post 9596190)
I think this sign was located on the east side of Los Angeles Street and just south of Ferguson Alley. The jewelry store is "Jin Hing Co" located on 446 1/2 Los Angeles Street with the side facing the infamous "Calle los Negroes."


The Jin Hing Co. store with familiar sidewall sign in this detail from Street scene of Old Chinatown, Los Angeles (April 7, 1948)


https://i.imgur.com/pY9Naqk.jpg
digital.library.ucla.edu

ethereal_reality Apr 13, 2022 7:23 PM

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Remember recently discussed Belvedere Gardens from a few weeks ago?


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/vcWgG5.jpg





Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/7sLrwl.jpg
uscdigitalarchives

I could be wrong but I don't think that's Arbuckle.







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ALsKHq.jpg
uscdigitalarchives

I'm surprised little Belvedere Gardens had so many buses.







I. .um. .have to confess. I added the Arbuckle part in the top image.

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2022 8:01 PM

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Has anyone heard of the Ford and Stout Paving Plant?


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/9WSaJZ.jpg
eBay





https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/kR5gMX.jpg
Los Angeles - Ford & Stout Paving Plant - July 24, 1915.



Just listed on eBay.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/4DlqpO.jpg


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Bristolian Apr 14, 2022 8:13 PM

:previous:

That's my birthday! Actually about 50 years before I was born.

HossC Apr 14, 2022 8:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9599120)

Has anyone heard of the Ford and Stout Paving Plant?


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/9WSaJZ.jpg
eBay

In the 1915 CD, Ford & Stout (Benjamin F Ford and Fred H Stout) Asphalt Paving Contractors had an office address of 336-337 Bradbury Building, 304 S Broadway. Unfortunately, there's no address for the plant. The company appears in the CDs between 1912 and 1917.

odinthor Apr 14, 2022 9:18 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/SsvX4cRH/Ford-S...-p604-1913.jpg
Pacific Municipalities, vol. 27, p. 604, 1913

:cheers:

ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2022 2:49 AM

:previous:

Thanks, HossC and odinthor!



July 24, 1915
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 9599136)
:previous:
That's my birthday! Actually about 50 years before I was born.

Very cool. :)




Just for fun here's a closer look at the men in the Ford & Stout photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/H0gmdE.jpg

I can't decide if the thingies above and to the left of the wagon driver are electrical wires with insulators or ropes with knots.






and here's the other driver.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/P6UXoz.jpg

I have no idea what the horses are pulling.....It looks like a little sled.




P.S. I just looked at the complete Ford & Stout photograph again and the "thingies" are electric wires with insulators. If you look closely they're attached to the utility pole.
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odinthor Apr 15, 2022 4:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9599120)
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Has anyone heard of the Ford and Stout Paving Plant?


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/9WSaJZ.jpg
eBay

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The tree you see barely rising above and behind the the building is the Moreton Bay Fig at 20th and Compton Ave., planted by Andrew J. Cooper in 1876.

https://i.postimg.cc/dVHXyHBd/Moreton.jpg
USC

Thus, of the two Ford & Stout Paving yards, the photo is of the yard at the nearby intersection of Washington and Long Beach.

ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2022 8:54 PM

:previous:

EXCELLENT DISCOVERY! ...Good eye, odinthor.




They do appear to match.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/xJsuO3.jpg


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/nREvPR.png

. .considering that there's at least 20 years between the two photographs.



I'm amazed that you noticed this, odinthor....:worship:
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ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2022 9:21 PM

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....................................................................I forgot my map.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/s0prMU.jpg
Guesstimate

Ford & Stout location - - - - > Moreton Fig tree.



The shadows in the Ford & Stout photograph tell us that we're looking north. . . in the afternoon.


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ethereal_reality Apr 16, 2022 3:55 PM

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Does anyone know if there was a photo arcade in Union Station one of the train stations back in 1918?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/FPnu9c.jpg
Currently on eBay


Perhaps in the Arcade Depot? ;)


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ethereal_reality Apr 17, 2022 12:25 AM

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Here's an original photograph with plenty of information.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/hcMgoL.jpg
Found on eBay a few months back & I never got around to posting it.



Donald....1907....L.A.

About 39th & Central Ave. (or is it 34th?)





There's also information written on the back.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/a2y1Se.jpg

Donald McDonald (could this be Ronald's dad?)

Los Angeles City Fire Depart.

Stationed at 35th and Central.

note the :previous: discrepancy.







Here are a couple of things of interest.




There's an early street sign showing Central Ave.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/LMQIs6.jpg
detail






There's also an intriguing political sign on the side of the building on the right.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/BjP5WM.jpg
detail


________prohibit visitors to Los Angeles?


Does anyone understand what this means? :shrug:




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Lorendoc Apr 17, 2022 5:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9600567)
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________prohibit visitors to Los Angeles?


Does anyone understand what this means? :shrug:

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I think there might be an error on the date.

The big election issue of 1907 was the $23,000,000 bond ($700,000,000 in today's dollars) measure for the Owens Valley Aqueduct, which carried by 21,000 votes of 23,000 cast. It's hard to see how a "yes" vote on this would negatively affect tourism to Los Angeles.

The California SOS office reports the Taxpayer's League of California was incorporated in 1916. Perusing contemporary newspapers reveals the Taxpayer's League was an instrument of the liquor interests. On November 7, 1916, Proposition 1 (prohibits possession, manufacture, sale of alcoholic beverages) was defeated by a 55%-45% margin. This would likely explain the Taxpayer's League's opposition, because who in their right mind would come to Los Angeles without being able to get plastered?

P.S. Engine Company 14 was (and is!) at 3401 S. Central.

ethereal_reality Apr 18, 2022 4:37 PM

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Thanks for information Lorendoc. That's all news to me.





By happenstance I happened upon a rare view of the interior of the Lookout Mountain Inn. Unless I'm mistaken, the inn was located in Lorendoc's neighborhood.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/45NCJL.jpg
Currently on eBay


The hanging light fixtures appear to hold candles. ... Does anyone know if the Lookout Mountain Inn had electricity before it burnt down in. .um. .?





The seller also includes this photograph in the same deal.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/T8nqeu.jpg

I don't see any wires running to the roof.
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ethereal_reality Apr 18, 2022 4:54 PM

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We've covered the Lookout Mountain Inn many times on NLA but I believe this RPPC might be new to us.


Here's Lookout Mountain BEFORE the inn was built.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/fqwSU3.jpg
sdsu

Pretty amazing.


"Maria & D. walked up this road." is written on the reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/fw0rqI.jpg



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ethereal_reality Apr 18, 2022 5:10 PM

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This snapshot on eBay is interesting as well.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/jnzztP.jpg
eBay




Here's a closer look at the political banner. ..I can make it all out except for the last name.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/t3oE3B.jpg

Does anyone know when Coolidge visited Los Angeles?






This is the intriguing part. (other than the banner)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/6ssNgo.jpg

but the building is a church, right? :shrug:




for search purposes:....coolidge....dawes
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Martin Pal Apr 18, 2022 6:03 PM

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The third name on the banner: John Donnan Fredericks

https://historycms2.house.gov/upload...11_08_0045.jpg

Before his two terms in the House, John Fredericks was Los Angeles district attorney from 1903 to 1915. Elected to Congress in 1923, Fredericks spent much of his congressional career advocating for California, securing federal funds for improvements to Los Angeles Harbor and for the construction of a military hospital. He returned to the legal profession after leaving Congress in 1927. LINK.
This LINK indicates he represented the 10th District.

The banner doesn't indicate that Coolidge actually came to Los Angeles. The only reference I could find to Coolidge visiting was when he came in 1930, after he was President: Even the outwardly dour but really very witty Calvin Coolidge was a big fan of the movies and had to see Hollywood for himself on a western visit in 1930, taking in Warner Bros., United Artists, Fox Studios and MGM all in one whirlwind day. LINK

Find out which sitting President first visited Los Angeles: Any guesses first?

Presidential Visits: Days to Remember
by Richard Simon
TIMES STAFF WRITER
LINK

ethereal_reality Apr 18, 2022 6:25 PM

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This is a day late but I couldn't resist.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/zxP8Pk.jpg
eBay


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Murphy de la Sucre Apr 19, 2022 2:06 AM

the Hangman's Tree with warm beer, good old times always refreshing my mundane mind.

Lorendoc Apr 19, 2022 2:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9601366)
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The third name on the banner: John Donnan Fredericks

https://historycms2.house.gov/upload...11_08_0045.jpg

Before his two terms in the House, John Fredericks was Los Angeles district attorney from 1903 to 1915. Elected to Congress in 1923, Fredericks spent much of his congressional career advocating for California, securing federal funds for improvements to Los Angeles Harbor and for the construction of a military hospital. He returned to the legal profession after leaving Congress in 1927. LINK.
This LINK indicates he represented the 10th District.

The banner doesn't indicate that Coolidge actually came to Los Angeles. The only reference I could find to Coolidge visiting was when he came in 1930, after he was President: Even the outwardly dour but really very witty Calvin Coolidge was a big fan of the movies and had to see Hollywood for himself on a western visit in 1930, taking in Warner Bros., United Artists, Fox Studios and MGM all in one whirlwind day. LINK

Find out which sitting President first visited Los Angeles: Any guesses first?

Presidential Visits: Days to Remember
by Richard Simon
TIMES STAFF WRITER
LINK

I'm gonna guess James A. Garfield? [EDIT: close, but WRONG]

Here's a shapemap from the University of Richmond showing Fredericks' congressional district.

https://i.imgur.com/iuesbac.jpg
https://dsl.richmond.edu/panorama/co...&show=strength


As you can see, his district ran from Malibu east to West LA, Beverly Hills, Hollywood and south through Culver City to the South Bay cities to Palos Verdes, excluding Long Beach but including Catalina and San Clemente islands, and Wilmington and the LA harbor. So the banner probably was somewhere there :shrug:

Lorendoc Apr 19, 2022 3:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9601318)
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We've covered the Lookout Mountain Inn many times on NLA but I believe this RPPC might be new to us.


Here's Lookout Mountain BEFORE the inn was built.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/fqwSU3.jpg
sdsu

Pretty amazing


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Thanks for posting the RPPC, e_r. I'm pretty sure we saw it before, because I bought it on eBay after I saw it here c. 2013.

The view is taken from the site of the Lookout Mountain Inn looking SE. The fire that consumed the Inn was in 1918. The photo shows evidence of burnt vegetation. My house was built 40 years later, near the center of the photograph.

sadykadie2 Apr 19, 2022 4:43 AM

Insulators
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9599510)
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Thanks, HossC and odinthor!



July 24, 1915

Very cool. :)




Just for fun here's a closer look at the men in the Ford & Stout photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/H0gmdE.jpg

I can't decide if the thingies above and to the left of the wagon driver are electrical wires with insulators or ropes with knots.






and here's the other driver.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/P6UXoz.jpg

I have no idea what the horses are pulling.....It looks like a little sled.




P.S. I just looked at the complete Ford & Stout photograph again and the "thingies" are electric wires with insulators. If you look closely they're attached to the utility pole.
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I can confirm those are insulators. My husband works for the water and power in Glendale and he seconded that

James Moore Apr 19, 2022 10:48 PM

WindCliff Manor & MPA - Jim Moore
 
Jim Moore is my uncle. Windcliff Manor was on the cover of Architectural Digest in the early 70's. I visited the office and stayed at the home a few times when I was a kid. It was an amazing very rustic/chic.

The office was also pretty amazing. The MPA office chef was the owner/builder of the Pyramid House. Her husband was an engineer but for music. They built the house themselves and were in the process when I was there. The fruit trees were just planted and they were the first vegans I ever met. They live trapped mice and took them down the hill. :) The sundial on the floor blew our minds. They were still working it out when I was there. I can't remember his name but he was involved in the recording of Kenny Loggins records. Kenny also lived in that neighborhood. The chef was also tasked with watching me while my uncle was at work. We went to Kenny's house to water his plants. I remember little bits of information but it was a long time ago. I remember the Kenny Loggins stuff because he had the hit at the time from the "CaddyShack" soundtrack. I couldn't wait to tell my friends I peed in Kenny Loggin's bathroom.

I will ask my uncle about the little road and see if he can remember.


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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7564716)
re: I've been snooping around the property.


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:previous: Hoss, I believe there might have been an additional building(s) up this small road. (shown below, red arrow at right)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/reA1r4.png

It's about the width of a single lane road and the edges are smooth so it isn't a run-off channel or anything natural like that.



I've circled where the small path/road ends.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/ijkv0q.jpg
google_aerial



Here's a close-up. You can see at least one good sized foundation and another one that's half-hidden beneath a tree.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/vJjwun.jpg
detail / google_aerial. NORTH is at left.

The other two prominent shapes look like solar panels to me.............................:previous:.



Then I thought, maybe this isn't on the same property as the Medical Planning Assoc; so I checked.

Yep, it's all one BIG property (outlined in blue below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/8oKQzi.jpg

Malibu property boundaries here:
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale...44_rect/17_zm/


I realize it's no big deal, but it was fun exploring.

I don't think we'll ever know what used to be at the end of that lane.

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ethereal_reality Apr 19, 2022 11:09 PM

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Wow! Thanks for sharing your memories, James Moore. :)

I'd sure like to see the issue of Architectural Digest with Windcliff Manor on the cover. I tried to find it online but failed. (I didn't try very hard/I ran out of time)
I believe one has to have a subscription to AD and then I don't know if their digital archives go back that far.

Have a great day!

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ethereal_reality Apr 19, 2022 11:44 PM

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Coolidge banner
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/t3oE3B.jpg

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9601366)

The third name on the banner: John Donnan Fredericks. :previous:

The banner doesn't indicate that Coolidge actually came to Los Angeles. The only reference I could find to Coolidge visiting was when he came in 1930, after he was President:

Thanks for your help, Martin pal.


You mentioned Calvin Coolidge in Hollywood. Here's a photograph from his trip in early 1930. (the studio is unnamed)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/s61sbo.jpg
Indiana State Library

I believe that's William Hays (of the Hays Code :() with the dark hair chasing after Coolidge.




And I'm pretty sure this is Mary Pickford.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/7XhhPt.jpg
detail



. .from the reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/E5nxhv.jpg.....

Hays, Will Collection.....Calvin Coolidge and Party.....2-21-1930


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Mackerm Apr 20, 2022 1:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9601331)
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This snapshot on eBay is interesting as well.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/jnzztP.jpg
eBay

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but the building is a church, right? :shrug:


for search purposes:....coolidge....dawes
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Wilshire Presbyterian Church, 3rd and Western.

mrfredmertz Apr 21, 2022 1:48 AM

Isn't that Doug Fairbanks, second from the right?

ethereal_reality Apr 21, 2022 4:42 AM

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/wAjuqa.jpg

I don't think so.





I am curious about the young lad behind his right shoulder.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/hTyobC.jpg

I thought it might be Dickie Moore but he was only five years old in 1930.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/XF2rdV.jpg
Dickie Moore

It sure looks like him.

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ethereal_reality Apr 21, 2022 5:13 AM

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There's a photo album with 350 'one of a kind' snapshots currently for sale on eBay.

Included in the albums are various photographs of film sets in the 1920s.


I'll start with this intriguing film set of a great looking Chinatown. (or should I say Chinese city)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/jc4ixJ.jpg
eBay

Does it look familiar to anyone?




It's featured on the album page below.


#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/Dcmyse.jpg
eBay












#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/H19aRK.jpg
eBay

:previous: Upper left might be the set from The Thief of Bagdad. (1924)










#3
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/8OnYAo.jpg
eBay

There's that China town again . . . .









#4
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/3cORLh.jpg
eBay

mrfredmertz. . . .speaking of Douglas Fairbanks, I remember him jumping from urn to urn in The Thief of Bagdad (1924) -bottom right . those urns . .:previous:










Next, we have. . um. . .Inceville?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/oTWByo.jpg
eBay

Wow!.....You gotta' love that.


It's great that the sellers decided to sell the album with all the photographs intact. If no one buys the album I imagine they will probably separate the photographs and sell them individually. No!

Any bidders? ......LINK



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Mackerm Apr 21, 2022 8:52 PM

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The description mentioned an aerial view of the Universal Studios backlot, so...

https://i.postimg.cc/7hrFJ6qY/univer...-history-2.jpg

JustFunFacts


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