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HossC Aug 30, 2016 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7546355)

This photograph was taken somewhere in Echo Park.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/XLXpOC.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...bba44871d6.jpg

What's also intriguing about this pic (besides the McDonald-esqe bldg) is the Pioneer Pizza next door.

Whoa, I just noticed the liquor store is also called Pioneer.......Pioneer Liquor! What's up with that?

Does anyone recognize this stretch of Echo Park?

We covered the Echo Park Pioneer Chicken, and the nearby Pioneer Super Market, about a year ago in post #30174, post #30178 and post #30180. Pioneer Take Out was at 1321 Echo Park Avenue, while Pioneer Pizza was at 1323, and Pioneer Liquors was at 1325 (according to the 1968 CD).

GaylordWilshire Aug 30, 2016 7:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7546450)
I thought GW might be able to tell us more about this amazing looking place.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/qarEYG.jpg
http://picclick.ca/C-1910-Los-Angele...170999509.html

I can't tell if this is the front or the back of the house.


That's the back of the Ainsworth house at about Cimarron Street-- built ca. 1910. I'll look for a front view. The owner was a railroad man. Demo'ed in 1965.


A front view from the Times of Apr 23, 1911:


http://i.imgur.com/6dH0Ckn.jpg



I have a photo of it somewhere... I'll dig further


Here it is: (my notes say it's from the LAPL)


http://i.imgur.com/YSEc3xB.jpg

HossC Aug 30, 2016 8:06 PM

:previous:

I agree with GW about this being the back of the house, going by the outline on the 1921 Baist map.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...amsStreet1.jpg
USC Digital Library

Harry B Ainsworth appears at 2190 W Adams Street (now Boulevard) in the 1911 CD.

Here's a 1910 Pierce Arrow, similar to the one mentioned and visible on the postcard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...erceArrow1.jpg
www.conceptcarz.com

HossC Aug 30, 2016 8:30 PM

This Julius Shulman photoset has a rather generic title. It's "Job 312: Building report, 1948".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The set has a total of eight images showing different angles at the same location. I've picked out three.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

This looks like a communal incinerator.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The first image above shows the back of the Madison Hospital, with a sign directing people to an entrance on Madison Avenue. The 1942 CD shows the Madison Hospital at 1151 N Madison Avenue, which is to the left of the "Madi" part of my street label on the 1948 view below. That means that all the Shulman photos were taken at the dead end of Vermont Place.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nHospital4.jpg
Historic Aerials

Here's a current view of Vermont Place. I can't see any survivors.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
GSV

Flyingwedge Aug 30, 2016 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7546657)
That's the back of the Ainsworth house at about Cimarron Street-- built ca. 1910. I'll look for a front view. The owner was a railroad man. Demo'ed in 1965.


A front view from the Times of Apr 23, 1911:


http://i.imgur.com/6dH0Ckn.jpg



I have a photo of it somewhere... I'll dig further


Here it is: (my notes say it's from the LAPL)


http://i.imgur.com/YSEc3xB.jpg

Here is another photo of 2190 W. Adams:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.jpg~original
December 1913 The Architectural Record @ HathiTrust

Thanks for posting the postcard of the other side of the house, e_r!

Beaudry Aug 30, 2016 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7546355)
Thanks for locating the Highland carwash photo Beaudry.

I too, thought the check-cashing building resembled an old Pioneer Pigeon Chicken but I wasn't sure.

While looking through vintage photos of Pioneer Pigeon Chicken I was totally surprised to see a building like the one below.

This photograph was taken somewhere in Echo Park.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/XLXpOC.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...bba44871d6.jpg

What's also intriguing about this pic (besides the McDonald-esqe bldg) is the Pioneer Pizza next door.


update:
Whoa, I just noticed the liquor store is also called Pioneer.......Pioneer Liquor! What's up with that?

Does anyone recognize this stretch of Echo Park?
_

While we're on the subject...anyone who digs signage, Echo Park, early-70s LA, or any combination thereof, should get a kick out of this image, from a slide in my collection:

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8845/2...6aacddb0_b.jpg

BifRayRock Aug 31, 2016 12:11 AM







Shepherd-Campbell Gas and Tires -2500 Figueroa (stone's throw from AAA HQ at Figueroa and Adams) (Alternative location at 1900 S Main)

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...psojhup45b.jpg LA Herald, Oct 1, 1921


http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...d.jpg~original




http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...p.jpg~original

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...pswtjgk09e.jpg

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...j.jpg~originalhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...coll65/id/2107



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...c.jpg~original












unihikid Aug 31, 2016 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7546862)
While we're on the subject...anyone who digs signage, Echo Park, early-70s LA, or any combination thereof, should get a kick out of this image, from a slide in my collection:

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8845/2...6aacddb0_b.jpg

Now that i see it from this direction i know where we are. So as of a few years ago pioneer pizza is now a Little Cesars Pizza.

BifRayRock Aug 31, 2016 1:28 AM




Western Auto Wash at Western and San Marino circa 1927. The Ambassador and La Bertha apts are nearby. Plenty of parking for the Uptown.





http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...4.jpg~original







http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...a.jpg~original








http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...m.jpg~original







http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...w.jpg~original








http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...k.jpg~original






http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...q.jpg~original








http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/70835










Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6978104)
III
Gaylord Apts and Ambassador
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0







IV
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0




V
LA BERTHA
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0






VII
West Coast Uptown Theater (Western and 10th (Olympic))
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0





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BDiH Aug 31, 2016 7:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7546480)
Maybe just me, but I am excited!

I'm pretty sure I found an elusive photo of the front of this Coffee Dan's at 6776 Hollywood Blvd.!
Not only that, but a peek inside, too.


https://markbarclaysite.files.wordpr...?w=1323&h=1125
Marc Barclay Blog


Fond memories. This Coffee Dan's was a favorite hangout for Hollywood High Students after school. Four or five kids in a booth, each ordering a Coke and sharing an order of French Fries. Lee Drugs across the street had a fountain and individual jukeboxes with top 40 records. Most drug stores on Hollywood Boulevard had soda fountains, including stores at Cherokee, Hudson, Ivar and vine. Saw many good movies at the Hollywood Theatre, including The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? and The Music Man. All for $1.25 a ticket. Walking down the Boulevard towards The Drake, we shopped for typewriter ribbons and notebook paper at Miller's Stationery.

Martin Pal Aug 31, 2016 9:08 AM

:previous::previous:

Thanks for those memories BDiH! When I found a snapshot of this place on Flickr last February, at this post HERE, the person (Vicky Valentine) whose photo it was said:

"Coffee Dan's, my hangout before high school. 1966-68."
She indicated she and her friend's referred to it as "C.D.'s."

Since you used to frequent the place, do you remember if the waitresses had any particular "Coffee Dan's" uniforms they wore? Was there any particular color scheme for these restaurants?

Lee Drugs, that you mentioned, is now a souvenir store called Memories of Hollywood. The Coffee Dan's location is now a McDonald's.

Thank you for verifying the location! :cheers:

oldstuff Aug 31, 2016 2:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7546862)
While we're on the subject...anyone who digs signage, Echo Park, early-70s LA, or any combination thereof, should get a kick out of this image, from a slide in my collection:

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8845/2...6aacddb0_b.jpg

Both the liquor store and the "burger" stand on the side opposite Pioneer Chicken are still there. The liquor store looks almost exactly the same but the burger place now sells tacos and enchiladas and the "burger" signs in the truncated diamond shapes have been changed to say "tacos, Enchiladas and Burritos" The more elaborate signage on the roof is gone, replaced by a squarish orange sign that says "Los Burritos" "homemade Mexican food" The larger building south of the burrito place is still there but now covered with very colorful murals on the street sides. That building now houses an urgent care and dentists, but was apparently a medical building even before that.

The B of A on the opposite side of Sunset is also virtually unchanged, at least on the outside and it is still a B of A. Opposite the bank building on the other side of Echo Park, is a building with a rounded corner that you can just see peeking out from behind the Pioneer Chicken sign. That building is also still there with apartments above and retail below.

BifRayRock Aug 31, 2016 3:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6516320)






Mayfair, undated

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...b.jpg~original

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...ll170/id/21721

HossC Aug 31, 2016 7:14 PM

I think there's a typo in the job name of today's Julius Shulman post. Looking at the first picture it should be "C. Russell Wilkerson School". This is "Job 846: E. Russell Wilkerson School (El Monte, Calif.), 1950".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I was expecting some interior photos, but the other five pictures in the set all show the wash basins, some being used by children. I'm only posting one as an example.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

A quick search for the "Russell Wilkerson School" yielded mainly references to the Shulman pictures, so I changed my criteria to "Wilkerson School", and found the Wilkerson Elementary School at 2700 Doreen Ave, El Monte. The view from the front looks relatively unchanged.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
GSV

GatoVerde Aug 31, 2016 8:11 PM

Unidentified
 
Found this image on ebay. It has some interesting buildings and it purported to be of L.A. but I can't place it.

Can someone place this image?
http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/NIDLA1.jpg

ethereal_reality Aug 31, 2016 9:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7546786)
Thanks for posting the postcard of the other side of the house, e_r!

You're welcome FW. I was darn excited when I found it.
_

I have to say, I prefer the back of the Ainsworth house. The front looks a bit too much like Mount Vernon.

So did the Ainsworth family have a young son around the time of the sepia pc?
(I'm still wondering about that kid in the yard ;))

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HossC Aug 31, 2016 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6444147)

1221 South Hope.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...221SoHope2.jpg
USC Digital Library

Just like 1317 South Hope, we have another survivor, although its neighbors to the right have all gone. The building to the left (1225 South Hope) looks reasonably old too, but isn't there in the 1933 picture above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...221SoHope3.jpg
GSV

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6444282)

In May of 2012 a fire destroyed the Terrell Moore Gallery at 1221 S. Hope. (I wonder if the Google-Street view is pre-2012?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/571/h88g.jpg
http://lafd.blogspot.com/2012_05_01_archive.html[URL=https://imageshack.com/i/mk1wj8j]

While looking for something else, I came across the posts above from February 2014, and wondered what had happened to 1221 S Hope Street. The newest GSV image is a year old, so things may have changed again by now. I have to say, considering what was there before, and the building next door, I find this rather ugly.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
GSV

The only consolation is that the old building appears to have been preserved under the sheets of wood. This is how it looked in December 2014.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
GSV

The 2014 building permit I found mentions the roof being removed and the ceiling being raised to 29 feet high. It doesn't say what the altered building will be used for.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
Online Building Records

ethereal_reality Sep 1, 2016 1:08 AM

:previous: Very interesting Hoss.

I truly hate what they did to the building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/ItYsxo.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/ki2RK5.jpg

It seems like they could have found another solution, especially if the primary goal was just to raise the roof to 29ft.

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ethereal_reality Sep 1, 2016 1:23 AM

These three amazing sepia photographs were taken somewhere in San Pedro a long long time ago. (1910s?)

The images show a parade in progress.

I am not sure what symbol is on the banner below (but you can clearly see two Ws on either side of the hatchet & mallet)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/38BKnR.jpg
eBay




This banner looks like the Moose Lodge banner (see the moose)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/aipBfZ.jpg
eBay






This view is probably my favorite of the three. It shows an entirely different location along the parade route.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/5YQ4lE.jpg
eBay

Does the shed say Hickman Bros. Plumbing...?

& I believe that's a huge street paving machine on the right....with Marion written on it.



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Earl Boebert Sep 1, 2016 3:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7548292)
These three amazing sepia photographs were taken somewhere in San Pedro a long long time ago. (1910s?)

The images show a parade in progress.

I am not sure what symbol is on the banner below (but you can clearly see two Ws on either side of the hatchet & mallet)

[snip]


_

Woodmen of the World. Like a lot of fraternal organizations, provided burial and life insurance. Amazingly, still around, in the form of Woodmen Life.

Cheers,

Earl


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