No one anywhere: Wow that's really surprising


But really sometimes the CTBUH is a little behind or just wrong though, likely not in this case of course

The last update via the 45 Broad Construction Update;

SUMMARY
Over the past three weeks, we’ve been surveying and reviewing the site.

WEEKS OF 10/14 + 10/21 + 10/28
We will be coordinating foundation work with contractor, subcontractor and design professionals. There will be no active construction work during this period.


Lots of coordination occurring. :shrug:

This was last updated on 10/14/2019.

Great details about the background of this building and why it seems to be progressing so slowly... so much detail to get around but no doubt in the coming year as we start to see tangible progress it will be well worth the wait!

Yeah I think its going to turn out okay. I think we are just all being impatient. Remember how long 111 W 57th took. But I cant blame folks for being impatient (I'm one of them) because 45 Broad is stunning. Either if the design with the external bracing or not rises, its still stunning in every aspect.

But its definitely assuring if it starts within the next 6 months. Some of us get paranoid thinking about the market outlook when it comes to towers like this considering the shenanigans going on with One Manhattan Square and the LES towers.

I'm hoping its just administrative roadblocks or lag-time as opposed to market related risk mitigation.

In my part of Italy, "pizzarot" is a colloquial term meaning a bumbling simpleton.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Via 45 Broad Update:

WEEKS OF 11/4 + 11/8 + 11/15
We will be coordinating foundation work with contractor, subcontractor and design professionals. There will be no active construction work during this period.

Same stuff as in October.

I bet 3 years from now it'll say the exact same thing, and the site will look exactly the same

I think it has more to do with the softening condo market. Banks are more hesitant to lend than in the past few years.

From a YIMBY comment:

:haha:

I think Macklowe should buy this site and build his 1,500+ tower here, or maybe 2WTC since I'm convinced neither will see the sight of day at this point.

It's a shame since this building was just gorgeous (2WTC not so much)

^^^^

Hell no lol. Lower Manhattan is the aesthetic pinnacle of what is Manhattans skyline. Midtown is nice, but aesthetically, downtown is the image of the city. Can't have the obese 432 Park clone with an axe to the face built there. Would really stand out. Not enough height and mass to block it out.

I meant with a better design, ideally.

I think downtown needs something in the 12-1500 foot range to complement the WTC.

I guess we'll have to put this thread to sleep since all we seem to get is ridiculous speculation.

Noticed changes in the Schedule A, now we know why...


https://therealdeal.com/2020/01/23/b...rtall-on-hold/

1035 is still not bad downtown, at least it's not canceled. Some drawings showed 1200 feet though, not sure which one is accurate.

Good

The 1,115 ft figure was always the main roof. The total roof height was 1,127 ft and the higher number was for the crown. So basically, if it's the same design minus 80 ft, total height will be around that 1,115 ft figure.

Well at least we know its not being shelved, which is great. When the time comes, the right market conditions, hopefully it will sprout. I think on a tower of this caliber, its worth the wait. But until than, so many things rising to keep us busy.

Site prep is pretty much done, any potential demo complete, so now we wait.

Dammit

This and 80 South Street. Bummer. :(

I'm kind of tired of Midtown getting all the action too! Really an unfortunate event that is a byproduct of the success of the city. The last 4-5 years have been a tremendous period in which the ultra luxury sector boomed.