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The North One Apr 27, 2020 7:13 PM

^ that sounds like good news.

Yuri Apr 27, 2020 7:21 PM

Another city not counting deaths anymore. Manaus, 2 million inh., Brazilian Amazon, registered 140 burials yesterday, up from an of average of 30 till early April. Shockingly, only 10 of those diagnosed with Covid-19, indicating the local health system is completely overwhelmed.

Link with details: https://g1.globo.com/am/amazonas/not...covid-19.ghtml

SlidellWx Apr 27, 2020 7:49 PM

Zero new deaths related to COVID-19 in New Orleans over the past 24 hours. Great news! Phase 1 of reopening commences on Friday.

https://www.nola.com/news/coronaviru...4678673fc.html

jtown,man Apr 27, 2020 8:44 PM

Anyone here live in places like Mumbai or Lagos? I am extremely interested in how life is going in those places.

SIGSEGV Apr 28, 2020 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8905084)
I don't think we'll know the true picture until it's over and we can do these analyses in restrospect. For one thing, I suspect there'll be a lot of revisions about who died of the virus and who died of other things.

And I have never argued coronavirus is not a serious thing, much worse than the flu or the other things its been compared with.

By the way, comparing New York to CA, they apparently ARE different strains of the virus. I heard it said today--I think it was by Dr. Gottlieb--that there are now 4 known strains of the virus and the Chinese strain prevalent in CA is different from the European strain prevalent in NY. So they could have different IFRs and other differences (but I agree, probably nothing like 10 times though as a Californian, I can hope so).

Agreed, the excess death data combined with serological tests once enough people have been exposed that the false positive rate doesn't matter as much will tell us the answer eventually.

It would be interesting if the Chinese strain were much less lethal than the European strain (or even if somehow Asian people were less severely affected; Santa Clara County is one of the most Asian counties in the country). That would change a lot of the conversation about how good various countries have been at dealing with the issue.

SIGSEGV Apr 28, 2020 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8905443)
They are now banning reusable bags because they are getm carriers it’s been discovered. In San Francisco they now charge $0.10 per bag for plastic ones to encourage reusable ones except now the reusable ones are banned. No choice I guess but pay the $010.

Even the local farmers market depends on commercial contract meat processors, albeit small, local ones, and immigrant farm labor to pick crops. The processors are closing one by one and the farm labor is vanishing. Besides, where I live the farmers markets closed for lack of business—everybody’s holed up at home.

Stores here are no longer charging for bags (and also not allowing you to bring your own). Not sure if they're eating the cost or if the City has suspended the normal rules.

So far, the only impossible thing to find has been yeast (going to the grocery store only once a week means I need to make my own bread).

mrnyc Apr 28, 2020 1:08 AM

^ yeah, that new paying for the plastic bag thing went right out the window with this disaster in nyc. we usually bring baggus along anyway though.

jtown,man Apr 28, 2020 1:38 AM

Environmentalism regarding plastics has gone out the window. We now know how important of a product it is.

mrnyc Apr 28, 2020 1:42 AM

^ lol so true.


nature comes out and pollution drops:


https://donyc.com/p/pollution-plumme...irus-shutdowns

xzmattzx Apr 28, 2020 3:20 AM

Delaware has soft-closed its borders, but I have been seeing as much of a percentage, or maybe even a higher percentage, of Massachuetts, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, DC, Virginia, and North Carolina plates over the past month. This is on I-295 and I-295 (which goes to the New Jersey Turnpike), but it's also on side roads and in the suburbs and cities. I thought all these states had stay-at-home orders in place (other than Massachusetts)?

dave8721 Apr 28, 2020 5:01 AM

Miami-Dade is going to open parks to walking and jogging starting this week. I will finally be able to take the kids on a walk along the water away from people again. Never really made sense why they closed them, except for people were abusing them throwing parties in parks and stuff and playgrounds will still be closed of course. The 2 local National Parks are still closed though.

Pedestrian Apr 28, 2020 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV (Post 8905915)
So far, the only impossible thing to find has been yeast (going to the grocery store only once a week means I need to make my own bread).

Try sourdough. Tastes better anyway: https://www.kingarthurflour.com/lear...urdough/create

Incidentally, I find that using whole wheat flour for the starter really does work better than white flour but you can use regular bread flour when you bake. Just keep using whole wheat to "feed" your starter.

SIGSEGV Apr 28, 2020 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8906122)
Try sourdough. Tastes better anyway:

You may be from San Francisco when...

But not a bad idea.

Crawford Apr 28, 2020 2:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xzmattzx (Post 8906031)
I thought all these states had stay-at-home orders in place (other than Massachusetts)?

I don't think any of these states have orders preventing interstate travel. Stay-at-home orders don't actually mean you can't leave your residence.

And that would be really hard to enforce in this part of the country anyways, given all the tiny states in proximity, and the tons of people that have family and weekend homes in other states.

Just anecdotal, but I have friends/neighbors currently staying in non-primary homes in Connecticut, Rhode Island, Vermont, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. No one can stop someone from accessing their homes.

JManc Apr 28, 2020 5:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The North One (Post 8905532)
^ that sounds like good news.

Not if you're these animals. There is no happy ending here for them.

Pedestrian Apr 28, 2020 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 8906401)
Not if you're these animals. There is no happy ending here for them.

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Executive order expected to keep meat plants open • 1:15 PM

. . . President Trump indicates that he will sign an order under the Defense Production Act for meat processing manufacturers to stay open.

The order could protect the companies from a liability standpoint, although with some COVID-19 deaths tied to meat plants it's likely to be controversial as well.
Tyson Foods . . . . Analysts don't expect the meat shortage to be a long-term consideration, although it should be supportive of pricing for producers.
https://seekingalpha.com/news/356540...content=link-7

JManc Apr 28, 2020 6:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8906421)

I heard about that. I know we probably can't catch CV-19 through animal meat but the thought of these plants ordered to resume operations with possible infected workers is making vegetarianism sound more appealing.

Steely Dan Apr 28, 2020 7:16 PM

* posts deleted *

Fuck off with the politics.

Take that shit to the CE toilet.

SIGSEGV Apr 28, 2020 7:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 8906490)
I heard about that. I know we probably can't catch CV-19 through animal meat but the thought of these plants ordered to resume operations with possible infected workers is making vegetarianism sound more appealing.

Well, typically one cooks the meat which would probably kill CV-19. As long as you follow basic food safety precautions I imagine the risk is small. There is probably a bigger risk from eating fruit... I typically don't wash my apples with soap, for example.

homebucket Apr 28, 2020 8:50 PM

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Coronavirus: 14,000 Stanford Health Care workers hit with furloughs, pay cuts
By ALDO TOLEDO | atoledo@bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group
PUBLISHED: April 27, 2020 at 4:40 p.m. | UPDATED: April 28, 2020 at 5:46 a.m.

STANFORD — Slammed financially like other Bay Area hospitals by the devastating coronavirus pandemic, Stanford on Monday imposed 20 percent pay cuts and across-the-board furloughs for roughly 14,000 health care workers, including administrators and doctors.

...

Nurses, doctors, technicians, staff and even the CEO and administrators at Stanford Hospital, Stanford-ValleyCare and Lucile Packard Children’s Hospital had the option last week of accepting a pay cut or taking paid vacation time in the next 10 weeks — a move that health care administrators say could be shortened or extended.

In a letter sent to workers, health system President and CEO David Entwistle said employees also have the choice of taking a furlough that qualifies them for federal and state unemployment benefits. Workers also can do a combination of all the options, and the hospital system said it will offer help in filing for unemployment insurance.

The system made the decision to cut pay and hours after sustaining a sharp drop in revenue as a result of a 40% decrease in emergency room visits and similar declines in elective surgeries and noncoronavirus-related medical services.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/...ughs-pay-cuts/


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