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MayorOfChicago Nov 17, 2017 7:04 PM

I was lurking around it this morning, man that thing is deep! No deeper than the garage it abuts though, so that goes down at least this far. Again makes me wonder if they're going to tear into the wall of the existing garage and expand it out into this void with more underground parking that will tie into the already completed entrance/exit ramp in the middle of the site as a whole.

I saw them pulling old trees and logs out of the clay, looked round and caked in mud like they've probably been down there since they fell ages ago - not cut logs like they're laying down to move the heavy machinery. Those would be some old logs to be buried this deep.

The Best Forumer Nov 17, 2017 7:55 PM

steady progress...

SolarWind Nov 18, 2017 9:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 7989370)
solar, can i repost this picture every time someone whines about chicago not putting more of its parking underground?

Yes, but don't forget to cite the source. I’ve heard that the moderators can be real hard-asses about that sort of thing. ;)

10023 Nov 18, 2017 2:55 PM

Is Chicago’s clay really that much harder or more expensive to dig in than elsewhere?

They build underground parking in reclaimed land in coastal cities. How is that any easier?

The city should still start requiring that parking is underground. If that means less development, so be it. Above ground parking destroys neighborhoods.

aaron38 Nov 18, 2017 3:11 PM

If the city was smart, it would require underground parking instead of the horribly corrupt affordable housing contributions. And give a FAR bonus.

HomrQT Nov 18, 2017 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnk (Post 7989403)
My gradfather's first job when he moved from the old country was digging old freight tunnels by hand digging out that Chicago clay. He was a strong man but it nearly killed him. He was worked so hard he said he literally used to sweat blood sometimes.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nstruction.jpg
Tunnel under construction in 1902. The freshly cut clay ahead of the concrete work shows clear knife marks.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...tionCloser.jpg
Trackwork in a typical grand union where two tunnels intersected, photographed before 1906.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tunnel_Company

That's awesome history to know. The men that built this country were hard men for sure. :cheers:

KWillChicago Nov 18, 2017 4:56 PM

How many parking spots were granted for the east building? And looking at the pictures it would be silly to not connect this to the original garage with that blank wall there. Being the same developers and im sure same parking company. Unless it would cause some massive structural issues.

HomrQT Nov 18, 2017 4:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 7990180)
Is Chicago’s clay really that much harder or more expensive to dig in than elsewhere?

They build underground parking in reclaimed land in coastal cities. How is that any easier?

The city should still start requiring that parking is underground. If that means less development, so be it. Above ground parking destroys neighborhoods.

I agree, quality > quantity for us at this point with construction.

harryc Nov 20, 2017 12:53 AM

Nov 17



Old Pilings - well preserved in the anaerobic clay

Nov 13

Waiting to be installed - the next set of braces - The square frames are being used to brace the existing garage wall.

Nov 13



Not the chains used in lifting it out of the pit.


Strain gauges - must be strain gauges.



harryc Nov 23, 2017 6:46 PM

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CastleScott Nov 23, 2017 9:48 PM

^ Wow that's a hella large hole-underground parking? Great pics (thanks harryc and Happy Thanksgiving!) and a great project along the river.

donnie Nov 23, 2017 10:33 PM

Wonder how much pressure that wall is holding back!

....simply amazing, simply Chicago....

LouisVanDerWright Nov 23, 2017 10:47 PM

Why don't they build below grade parking in Chicago??? This looks so easy!

harryc Dec 3, 2017 4:34 AM

Nov 28

A bit muddy.


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Kenmore Dec 3, 2017 1:02 PM

engineering on these riverfront projects is just the best to see, nice shots.

KWillChicago Dec 4, 2017 1:49 PM

The engineering of this project is truley amazing. Thanks for the pictures harry! I hope we get more with your pup soon. So cute.

Northwest Dec 5, 2017 6:59 PM

What an impressive dig. Its wonderful they spent the money to bury the parking on this site, its just too important and visible of a place to stick an ugly podium.
I'm surprised to see it go so deep with sheet pilings. Must be possible with those heavy reinforcements, I dont remember the sheet piles being this long when they drove them in.
I remember reading that One Chicago Square will have such deep parking they cant even use sheet piles. They are going with the more expensive secant wall on that site.

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KWillChicago Dec 7, 2017 4:52 PM

So many support beams. I am so confused. Does anyone have a bluprint/diagram of what the the lower levels are going to look like?

donnie Dec 7, 2017 5:20 PM

I would imagine those are temporary!

On a side note what's the hold up on OCS? I take it the alderman didn't get a big enough cut wich is why he's the only one holding this project from entering the construction phase...


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