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MiEncanto May 1, 2023 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by combusean (Post 9933088)
I don’t see that much commercial space in demand in that configuration downtown that can’t already be met by class B properties.

MacKay’s statement is pretty much irrelevant because it’s not like a pig processing plant would ever go in there, she has all the actual speculative uses covered. I think her comment was more directed at a general audience so yokels thinking about grow ops and homeless shelters shouldn’t have to worry/be disappointed.

Chase also has a very problematic “ground floor” from what I remember. Concourse retail is not ground floor and limits what they can do with it. An actual restaurant needing a grease trap and ventilation doesn’t fit without major retrofits, for example.

Yah I know a major developer who walked it when it was for sale and his takeaway was it was only liabilities and problems.

ASU Diablo May 1, 2023 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.RE (Post 9933034)
This may have been discussed before, but I heard from a reliable source that Chase Tower is being renovated into new ground floor retail, 6 floors of commercial and the rest as residential? An ABC article from last year seems to confirm this with Chris MacKay saying this new mixed-use tower could have "residential, a hotel or commercial."

Thoughts?

Yep it's ben discussed. It's been rumored for a while ever since those RED Development renderings popped up. Don't know if this is what the remodel will actually look like or if it was all speculative, but does provide insights as to how a remodel may look like and how street frontage "may" be addressed. I'm really excited about this one.

Not sure who the main developer is but I know the Godfather of Phoenix sports is involved so maybe it's JDM Partners? Hopefully more details can be shared soon...

Obadno May 8, 2023 12:06 PM

Do we have any photographers in the forum anymore? There is a ton of great construction to capture downtown right now

MiEncanto May 8, 2023 4:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 9938568)
Do we have any photographers in the forum anymore? There is a ton of great construction to capture downtown right now

Yes that would be great. Palmtower is really coming together as it closes in some floors with glass. Central Station going vertical with major progress. XPhxII looks like it's getting close to topping out. And so much more.

I was downtown on Friday for drinks and dinner before the Suns game. It was bananas with First Friday, DBacks, and Suns. Every corner of downtown was flooded.

It's just a mystery that we can't land major new employers downtown. It's so vibrant right now.

TllrSkyline-01 May 10, 2023 2:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MiEncanto (Post 9938859)
Yes that would be great. Palmtower is really coming together as it closes in some floors with glass. Central Station going vertical with major progress. XPhxII looks like it's getting close to topping out. And so much more.

I was downtown on Friday for drinks and dinner before the Suns game. It was bananas with First Friday, DBacks, and Suns. Every corner of downtown was flooded.

It's just a mystery that we can't land major new employers downtown. It's so vibrant right now.

It is not a mystery. The economy is challenging right now for downtown office markets around the country. We are seeing most of our projects change scope to 'market ready' instead of tenant improvements. Developers are worried about the rising office vacancy rates. Until people decide to get out of working from home and back to work in a public office setting, banks are not going to loan money on new offices...especially in downtown Phoenix. Sad.

Obadno May 10, 2023 5:08 PM

The work from home and remote work revolution is great in many way for lifestyle, families, raising children, giving people the ability to live where they want without sacrificing good jobs/careers but it’s not good for traditional downtown offices that’s for certain.

Everything had a downside

azsunsurfer May 10, 2023 7:46 PM

We won't even need Downtowns eventually either. You can visit Cobra Arcade or Copper Blues via the Metaverse all from the safety of your own home...ChatGPT can even write your pick-up lines too!

CrestedSaguaro May 10, 2023 9:28 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009...55_468x331.jpg

ASU Diablo May 12, 2023 7:58 PM

According to IG post below, True North Studios did a presentation and looks like Knipe Village and the Roosevelt Land Yacht Club developments are still alive

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsHuHKVP...RlODBiNWFlZA==

combusean May 13, 2023 6:24 AM

I wish I could have that guy's job where he does like nothing all day and makes outlandish promises about what he's going to build, but I'd actually be doing something all day and getting it built. I swear, Phoenix's RFP process has to be the worst make work/welfare project in the state.

xymox May 13, 2023 7:29 PM

Was downtown for a show last night - noticed the parking lot on the west of 3rd Ave just north of where the Goodwill is going is all fenced up and big signs that say 'no parking'. Is this a site for a project? There were some shipping containers on site that seem like they were related to construction work.

btw - its amazing how many cranes are up on the north end of downtown. With more to come even...

thespiandave May 13, 2023 7:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 9938568)
Do we have any photographers in the forum anymore? There is a ton of great construction to capture downtown right now

I finally had some spare time to go for a long walk! Even though Skye is almost literally in my backyard (and I hope gets a good restaurant), Palm Court still excites me the most!

https://imgur.com/gallery/Sp4yzsH

CrestedSaguaro May 14, 2023 7:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xymox (Post 9943437)
Was downtown for a show last night - noticed the parking lot on the west of 3rd Ave just north of where the Goodwill is going is all fenced up and big signs that say 'no parking'. Is this a site for a project? There were some shipping containers on site that seem like they were related to construction work.

btw - its amazing how many cranes are up on the north end of downtown. With more to come even...

It looks like it's where the shipping containers and plumbing were moved from the fenced-in lot lot on the Southside of EnHance. It was being stored there for a while, but I don't know what it's all being used for.

The building just north of the lot is also fenced off. Isn't this the site of a proposed high-rise in the 360'ish range? Not near my computer now to look at my notes.

combusean May 15, 2023 8:16 AM

Your notes:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...usp=share_link

https://i.imgur.com/yvEMf10.png

Looks like this was in pre-development for a while and 360' right there going on will look nice. I love Chicago developers. They like to build.

Obadno May 15, 2023 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thespiandave (Post 9943444)
I finally had some spare time to go for a long walk! Even though Skye is almost literally in my backyard (and I hope gets a good restaurant), Palm Court still excites me the most!

https://imgur.com/gallery/Sp4yzsH

Palm court really is looking sharp! Much better facade than I was expecting

Obadno May 15, 2023 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by combusean (Post 9944225)
Your notes:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...usp=share_link

https://i.imgur.com/yvEMf10.png

Looks like this was in pre-development for a while and 360' right there going on will look nice. I love Chicago developers. They like to build.

:worship::worship: I can’t imagine what downtown is going to look like in 10 years at this rate

ChaseM May 20, 2023 11:53 PM

Fairmont Phoenix Hotel & Residences
 
Looks like a teaser video with some shots of the exterior are up on the Thunderbird Legacy site.

http://thunderbirdlegacydevelopment.com

HX_Guy May 21, 2023 6:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaseM (Post 9949760)
Looks like a teaser video with some shots of the exterior are up on the Thunderbird Legacy site.

http://thunderbirdlegacydevelopment.com

That looks awesome, where will this be located?

DUPio May 21, 2023 6:36 AM

SWC of 1st Ave and Jackson St

combusean May 21, 2023 10:12 AM

Very good to see movement on that project. Getting a high-end hotel in that area might attract other brands that don't exist yet Downtown. The condos might also kickstart a missing component of the downtown residential boom as well.


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