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NYguy Aug 5, 2020 10:32 PM

^ MSG isn't going anywhere.


Originally Posted by ESysyn (Post 9001121)
Does this mean that 15 penn plaza is still happening?

15 Penn is a separate project, but Facebook has leased space in the Hudson Yards, mainly 50 Hudson.

chris08876 Aug 20, 2020 1:44 AM

Mismanagement could delay Penn Station’s $1.6B expansion into Farley Post Office to 2021, says Amtrak IG :hell:


Amtrak mismanagement could delay by three months Penn Station’s expansion across Eighth Ave. into the Farley Post Office, says a report published Wednesday by the railroad’s inspector general.

Gov. Cuomo has for months said the shiny new station — named Moynihan Train Hall after the late New York Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan — would open by the end of 2020.

But mishaps early on in the project on top of delays caused by the COVID-19 pandemic could push the debut back to March, the IG report states.

The train hall will serve as Amtrak’s New York hub and offer an alternative to Penn Station for NJ Transit and Long Island Rail Road riders while they wait for their trains. The new space will also include retail, and Facebook last month inked a deal to occupy 730,000 square feet in the redeveloped building.

The project initially was supposed to be completed by March 2021. At Cuomo’s request, the timeline was moved up three months — but the IG says that deadline is unlikely to be met.

Amtrak in 2017 committed to $106 million of work on the $1.6 billion project — including installing ventilation systems, construction of new office space and a wayfinding system for passengers.

A combination of inexperienced managers and no set construction schedule on the Amtrak portion of the project led to cost overruns, the report states.

In the summer of 2019, Amtrak officials discovered “some program team members had been unilaterally approving contract changes that committed the company to additional spending without executive approval,” according to the report.


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NYguy Aug 29, 2020 4:03 PM


Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 9016108)
Mismanagement could delay Penn Station’s $1.6B expansion into Farley Post Office to 2021, says Amtrak IG :hell:



According to Amtrak, certain functions that may not be on line by December is passenger information displays or other spaces used for station operations and employees until March 2021.

A spokesman for Governor Cuomo said the Amtrak portion of the station only equals about a tenth of the project scope, or 100,000 square feet, saying that even if Amtrak is not on time the rest of the 1.5 million square foot project will be.

“Amtrak’s project is a subcomponent of the larger train hall, representing less than ten percent of the overall project, and it would be a mistake to draw broad-based conclusions from this narrowly-focused report,” said Eric Gertler, CEO-Designate of Empire State Development. “The Moynihan Train Hall will be complete by the end of this year, on budget and ahead of schedule, and Amtrak leadership have assured us they will meet that timeline. Once completed, it will provide New Yorkers with the modern transit hub they deserve, while honoring the legacy of the original Penn Station. From the Kosciuszko Bridge to the Albany Airport to the new Rochester Rail Station, this administration has a history of delivering major infrastructure projects on time and on budget — and after 30 years of delays, we will do the same at Moynihan Train Hall.”

Busy Bee Aug 29, 2020 6:53 PM

Look in good. Soundin bad.

NYguy Aug 30, 2020 1:54 PM


Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9026452)
Look in good. Soundin bad.

I don't know if it's so bad. The cost overruns were almost a given with this thing. They moved the completion date up, and can't make it, so they're going back to the original completion date, a few months later. But the good news is that overall it's on track, and should (should) open by the end of the year. I try to get peeks as I'm walking through there. You can smell the newness of it all. Likewise, at the opposite end, the new 7th Avenue entrance is on pace to open by the end of the year. That's something to look forward to as this awful year comes to a close.

NYguy Aug 31, 2020 4:49 AM

AUGUST 30, 2020

New 7th Avenue entrance taking shape...

TowerDude Sep 19, 2020 5:16 AM

That 7th Ave entrance just looks like its going to blast cold air down into the station in the winter.

NYguy Oct 4, 2020 1:40 AM


Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 9046895)
That 7th Ave entrance just looks like its going to blast cold air down into the station in the winter.

It won't really do that though. The entrance on 34th doesn't work that way, and yeah, it's a different shape. But it won't work like that.


NYguy Oct 5, 2020 4:01 PM


NYguy Oct 15, 2020 2:05 AM


NYguy Oct 19, 2020 12:33 AM

OCTOBER 18, 2020

A couple of months from opening...

NYguy Dec 4, 2020 2:20 AM

Been focusing so much lately on what's happening around Grand Central, I forgot how close we are getting to Moynihan opening. I was looking nice tonight.

BuildThemTaller Dec 4, 2020 2:17 PM

How long has it been closed and under renovation?

NYguy Dec 5, 2020 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller (Post 9124763)
How long has it been closed and under renovation?

It's been closed for a couple of decades. The state (which now owns the building) has since used it for various events, like fashion week. The postal lobby has been and will remain active as usual.

BuildThemTaller Dec 5, 2020 5:52 PM

^Thank you, sir! That's kind of what I thought. I remember visiting NYC in the 2000's but just moved here last year.

NYguy Dec 20, 2020 2:15 PM

I like the lighting they've displaying lately...

NYguy Dec 28, 2020 3:03 PM

NYC's Moynihan Train Hall a bright alternative to Penn Station in 2021

By Jesse Coburn
December 28, 2020


Long Island Rail Road commuters sick of the crowded, windowless hallways of Manhattan's Penn Station have a brighter alternative to look forward to in the new year.

After more than three years of construction, the new Moynihan Train Hall — directly across 8th Avenue from Penn Station — will open to passengers Jan. 1, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo’s office announced Sunday.

The 255,000-square-foot facility, located inside what was once the city's main post office, will offer a new access point to 17 of Penn's 21 tracks, enabling LIRR and Amtrak riders to avoid the station’s maze of dingy underground passageways when buying tickets and waiting for trains.
In a statement, Cuomo hailed the completion of the $1.6-billion project — on-time and within its budget — as a "monumental accomplishment."
"New Yorkers have known for decades that Penn Station needed to be re-imagined," Cuomo said. "The pandemic did not stop us from dreaming big and building for the future."

Cuomo, in his State of the State address last January, unveiled a proposal to acquire the block south of Penn Station and build eight new train tracks underneath, expanding track capacity by 40%. Cuomo spokesman Jack Sterne said Sunday the project is under environmental review.
Sen. Todd Kaminsky (D-Long Beach), a member of the state Senate’s Transportation Committee, said Sunday the completed Moynihan project should make for a more pleasant commute for LIRR riders traveling to and from Manhattan. But more work is needed, he said, to solve the other capacity, safety and access issues that plague Penn.

"There's a lot we need to do at Penn Station," he said. "This is a good part of it, but there's a long way to go."

New Moynihan Train Hall Is Set To Open January 1st

DEC. 27, 2020


Train operations at the new Moynihan Train Hall are expected to begin January 1st, according to the governor's office. The $1.6 billion project turns the century-old Farley post office building into a transit hub increasing Penn Station's size by 50%.

The Moynihan Train Hall is connected to Penn Station via underground passageways, and features a 92-foot high glass skylight, expanded waiting areas for travelers, free WiFi, a lounge area for nursing mothers, and other features.

Submariner Dec 28, 2020 4:50 PM

It is a welcome addition for sure, but until our elected "leaders" get their acts together and give us a proper Penn Station, it will never be anything besides a pretty gauze on a gaping wound.

NYguy Dec 29, 2020 1:57 AM


Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 9143790)
It is a welcome addition for sure, but until our elected "leaders" get their acts together and give us a proper Penn Station, it will never be anything besides a pretty gauze on a gaping wound.

Less likely now more than ever. Moynihan will serve that purpose.

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