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BifRayRock Mar 30, 2013 6:21 PM

So many Gaylord references, hard to determine whether these circa 1922 construction images have been posted. Convinced I have seen a couple, not clear if they were on this thread or Mayor Shaw's wallet.

No narrative available.

Were powdered wigs popular in the '20s?

April - 1925

More of this issue of "the Buzzer" >> http://thegaylordapartments.blogspot...pril-1925.html

:hi: :fruit::hi: :fruit: :hi: :fruit:

ethereal_reality Mar 30, 2013 6:34 PM

excellent construction photographs BRR!

Here is a sign on the Belasco Theater that I've never noticed before.
Rick Mandel on

I hopped on the google-mobile to check it out myself. Sure enough, there it is on the theater's south side overlooking 11th street.

BifRayRock Mar 30, 2013 6:40 PM


Originally Posted by agakhan61 (Post 6072601)
The motion picture playing at the Fairfax is the Technicolor musical SALLY, released 12 January 1930. The photos most likely date from 1930 and not 1932. I've discovered the archives have incorrectly dated many photos, some by as much as five years.

Should have caught that, especially since I noticed elsewhere a 1929 attribution. Source has it as '32. Often the dates refer to date of print and not necessarily the date photo was taken.

Maybe, a foreshadowing of things to come: re-runs and revival theaters? :no:


ethereal_reality Mar 30, 2013 6:48 PM

Grim statistic.
Los Angeles Herald 1929

ethereal_reality Mar 30, 2013 7:04 PM

Hotel Chancellor at 7th & Berendo in 1929.


note the missing architectural elements

BifRayRock Mar 30, 2013 7:22 PM


Originally Posted by mdiederi (Post 5120052)
Helms Bakery located on Venice Blvd opened in 1931 and was in operation for four decades. They had a fleet of trucks that would deliver baked goods direct to homes all over the Los Angeles area some going as far as the eastern San Gabriel Valley. The building was restored in the 1970's, including the neon sign, and is now full of furniture and interior design studios and show rooms and called the Helms Bakery District.

Some of the trucks are still around and collector's items.

More to the story? (per source, photos from 1931-35)

Back to the beginning . . .

And on the seventh day . . . the dough was left to rise.

ethereal_reality Mar 30, 2013 7:39 PM

Could there still be sunken treasure off the coast of Long Beach?

I've heard of the gambling ships Rex and Bunker Hill, but not the Monfalcone.
Modern Mechanix May 1929

..some history

...the wreck

BifRayRock Mar 30, 2013 8:07 PM


Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5837721)

Have seen many early photos of Westwood on this forum and elsewhere. Something that did not seem to receive much attention was the size, height and number of building pylons or towers. The Richfield structure supporting an eagle is particularly impressive.

Pylon uniformity suggests they were the product of serious planning, rigorous enforcement of height restrictions - or the same architect/builder. If only they still existed.



Pylon Village, continued




Beginnings - 1929

THE Westwood Village Pharmacy

1929 - Janss Investment Co. Westwood's Parthenon

ethereal_reality Mar 30, 2013 8:15 PM
Popular Mechanics Oct. 1924

I know we've covered the tower numerous times on the thread (3940dxer even did a walking tour with his camera).
But there are a couple things in the description below that are new to me. I didn't realize the horizontal tunnel leading to the elevator shaft
was/is 50 feet long. I also didn't know there were 22 garages, I thought there were no more than 10 or 12.

ethereal_reality Mar 30, 2013 8:33 PM

What is that?

ethereal_reality Mar 30, 2013 8:48 PM

Cordelia Knott and her Easter bonnet. Happy Easter :)

tovangar2 Mar 30, 2013 9:13 PM


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6072749)
Happy Easter :)

You too Boss. Thx for everything:

Don't overdo it :-)

tovangar2 Mar 30, 2013 9:51 PM


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6072734)

Maybe it's just a pair of utility poles (see first photo below). There was an awful lot of wiring, both electrical and guy-wires, in the sky back then (see second photo).

LA Jeff Mar 30, 2013 11:21 PM

An aerial view of Westwood from 1927.

Construction on the UCLA campus is just beginning, with the outlined bridge already completed and linking the campus on the left with Hilgard Avenue on the right. The bridge still exists but is now hidden after the arroyo was filled in shortly after World War II. Wilshire Blvd. is visible at the bottom of the pic. Stone Canyon Reservoir and the San Fernando Valley are visible in the background.

The outlined home on the right of the pic belonged to Arthur Letts, Jr., son of Arthur Letts, Sr., the owner of the Bullocks and Broadway Department stores. The home is in the posh area known as Holmby Hills and was just completed when the above pic was taken. Letts, Jr.'s home in 1930.

You may know the Letts, Jr. home by its current moniker, Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion.

Letts Sr. built a large mansion and gardens in Hollywood that I’m sure has been discussed on this site. Letts, Sr.’s son-in-law, Harold Janss, owned the land that was later sold to the State of California to become the Westwood campus of UCLA.

MichaelRyerson Mar 31, 2013 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6071630)
Thank you for those MR. I still recall some of the tree-less, well-kept glamour of our streetscapes existing into the 1950s.

Wilshire at S Gramercy Pl, 2011:

BTW, do you know if the Bilike who built the Bilike Building was the same one who commissioned Parkinson and Bergstrom to build him a house on Monterey Rd, South Pasadena in 1905?

699 Monterey Road:

No, I don't know although the timing would be about right. I assumed he was the same guy who formed a partnership with Robert Rowan called the Bilicke-Rowan Fireproof Building Company who then built the Alexandria Hotel. He was somehow connected to the Hollenbeck Hotel on Spring Street.

BifRayRock Mar 31, 2013 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5752907)
In April I put some pictures up showing the Doheny Mansion. E.L. Doheny's son was the victim of a shooting. Here is the story of the younger Doheny's mansion:

The headlines: Feb. 18, 1929
Doheny Murder Inquiry Discloses Controversy

Secretary Declared to Have Killed Employer and Self Following Debate on Latter's Health

Dist.-Atty. Fitts yesterday launched a sweeping investigation of event surrounding the slaying of Edward L. Doheny, Jr., late Saturday night by the latter's secretary, Theodore Hugh Plunkett, who later took his own life.

Plunkett went to Doheny's home shortly after 9:30 p.m. And following a conference lasting more than an hour with his employer shot him to death with a revolver and turned the weapon on himself. Authorities believe Plunkett suddenly went insane. He ha been suffering from a nervous disorder for some time.

The tragedy occurred in the first floor guest bedchamber of Doheny's Beverly Hills Mansion while Mrs. Doheny sat in the living room unaware of the tragedy being enacted at the end of the long hallway leading to the rear of the house.


Looks like Johnny Socko beat me to the punch on this forum with the story and picture in 2010.

Here is some additional information:
The Scene: 905 Loma Vista Drive, Beverly Hills. The Greystone Mansion, home of Edward (Ned L. Doheny Jr., his wife and five children. Doheny was the son of oilman Edward L. Doheny Sr. In 1910, the elder Doheny bought 429 acres in the Beverly Hills area after striking oil in the 1890s. He gave the 22-acre plot to his son Ned as a wedding present in 1914, but the younger Doheny and his wife left the land alone until 1925. The house, sitting on 22 acres of choice real estate, took three years to build and cost 3.1 million dollars. The family moved into the newly completed house in September 1928. of Beverly Hills Friends of Greystone Los Angeles Los Angeles

The Bedroom Los Angeles

On the night of February 16, 1929, only six months after the family moved in, Ned Doheny was found by his wife, shot dead, the apparent victim of a murder/suicide.

The Official Investigation's Findings:

Homicide and suicide. Investigators determined that Plunkett had taken a .45 caliber revolver from the Doheny garage and had shot Doheny, then had turned the gun on himself. Testimony about Plunkett's unstable behavior over the previous six months, and Dr. Fishbaugh's testimony about the family's concern for Plunkett's sanity, reinforced this finding. No formal inquest was held.

Unofficial Rumors and Alternate Scenarios:

Over the years, questions have arisen about the events of that February night. Various rumors surfaced: that Plunkett and Doheny were more than just good friends, and that Lucy killed them in a fit of jealousy; that Plunkett shot Doheny in a quarrel over his salary. Questions were raised about the timing of the killings: was there a delay between the time of the deaths and the arrival of the police? Were the bodies moved to better suit the story told to the police? Was there an effort made to make Plunkett look crazy, to make the murder/suicice story more plausible? The undeniable wealth and influence of the Dohenys added to the public's fascination with the tragedy. Murder at Greystone, 1929

Kind of expensive to take photo's of the mansion. Here is the official pricelist.

Almost a year and a half to construct Greystone 1927-8.















15 - missing


Flyingwedge Mar 31, 2013 4:22 AM


Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 6072489)
FlyingWedge, The Chevrolet in front of the entrance is a 1936.

Hey thanks! :tup: I figured someone would know. I sure miss my old Tad Burness American Car Spotter's Guides . . . .

belmont bob Mar 31, 2013 5:13 AM

the good old days....

Originally Posted by LA Jeff (Post 6072882)

You may know the Letts, Jr. home by its current moniker, Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion.

Letts Sr. built a large mansion and gardens in Hollywood that I’m sure has been discussed on this site. Letts, Sr.’s son-in-law, Harold Janss, owned the land that was later sold to the State of California to become the Westwood campus of UCLA.

Arthur Letts… there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long, long time. When I was a Boy Scout, we used to go to the Camp Arthur Letts up in the Hollywood Hills. I don’t remember exactly where, but it had been there a long time. My father had camped there when he was a Boy Scout c. 1925. I assume it was named for Senior and can I also assume he donated the land. The camp was comprised of little three sided bunk houses. Or at least that’s what I remember since it would have been before 1957.

belmont bob Mar 31, 2013 5:26 AM

Thanks BifRayRock for posting the Helms photos. I’ve seen a lot of good memories posted on this site, but none more mouth watering then the memories of the Helms Bakery trucks that came through the neighborhood. My gosh, the yummy things they carried. I still have a vivid vision in my mind of standing in the front of that couch while the driver pulled open one of those big wooden drawers revealing donuts and rolls and cakes and éclairs and the best of all – cream puffs. My mom would put the H card in the window when she needed bread or something, but I’d intercept him on the street before he would have a chance to check with her… one of those visions that will live with me forever. YUM YUM…9

LA Jeff Mar 31, 2013 6:26 AM

A few more shots of Edward Doheny’s Greystone Mansion, which has been featured in many movies and TV shows.

Just your run-of-the-mill entry and staircase

At 46,000 sq. ft., Greystone was the largest LA area home for 60 years until Aaron Spelling built his 56,000 sq. ft. McMansion in Holmby Hills after buying and tearing down a home where Bing Crosby once lived. Ironically Crosby’s home was designed by the same architect who was commissioned for Greystone – Gordon Kaufmann, whose other projects included Hoover Dam).

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