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Just wanted to remind everyone
That on this night, 65 years ago, one of the biggest and most enduring murder mysteries in the city of the fallen angels began. A young woman named Elizabeth Short walked out of the Biltmore Hotel never to be seen alive again.
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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-z...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View I thought we'd had some posts on the Plantation and its connection to Fatty Arbuckle, but I couldn't find any. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...2520AM.bmp.jpgSony Pictures Museum The club was short-lived...the building is gone (I wonder how long it lasted?). more here: http://laist.com/2009/04/11/laistory...plantation.php Fishzilla: Welcome to the thread and congratulations on identifying the seal at city hall. Now be sure to send me the receipt from Leon & Eddie's, and I'll direct my banker and great friend Isais Hellman to send you a check. |
Chili Size and Ptomaine Tommy's at 2420 S. Broadway
The Odell's sign reminded me of a question I'd often wondered about: what exactly is a "Chili Size" (a term often seen in L.A. chili and burger joints), and where did that phrase come from? http://www.lincolnheightsla.com/bitsnpieces/ seems to have the answer:
"...Ptomaine Tommy's invented the chili size, a burger patty smothered in chili (chili burger), in the 1920s. His real name was Tommy DeForest, and from 1913 to 1958, he was the major-domo of local burgerdom. More than likely, DeForest, who claimed Mae West, Mary Pickford, and Dorothy Lamour as regulars, was the restaurateur who popularized the ladling of a masa-thickened, beanless chili on a burger. Ptomaine Tommy, once proprietor of the largest and best known chili parlor in the city. Ptomaine Tommy served straight chili and a Southwestern variation, a hamburger smothered with chili. He had two ladles, a large and a small. When a customer ordered straight chili, he got out the large ladle. When he wanted the other, he usually said “Hamburger size.” So Ptomaine Tommy put up one sign that read HAMBURGER SIZE 15¢, and another that read CHILI SIZE 20¢. Other chili joints followed suit and before long chili was known throughout Los Angeles as “size”. They'd say, “Just gimme a bowl of size.” http://wwww.dkse.net/david/PtomaineTommys.jpg http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthr...=342975&page=2 http://www.lincolnheightsla.com/bits...inetommys2.jpg http://www.lincolnheightsla.com/bits...inetommys1.jpg http://www.lincolnheightsla.com/bits...ematchaweb.jpg http://www.lincolnheightsla.com/bits...ematchbweb.jpg http://www.lincolnheightsla.com/bitsnpieces/ Now of course, L.A. has loads of burger places called Toms, Tommy's, Tommies, etc. To me the "real deal" joint is "Original Tommy's" at Beverly and Rampart. They never close and I can't resist going there every once in a while. (They actually have TWO stands, one on each side of the parking lot. One of the great things about this place is that the cooks prepare your burger -- exactly the way you want it -- as you order it, and hand it to you the moment you're done speaking!) Tommy's has been there for ages but I've been unable to find any old photos (damn!) This topic -- old burger joints -- is rife with Noirness and L.A. history, and has only been touched on a few times in our thread. "Dive" (Barfly) bars is another one that's loaded with potential and on my wish list. ;) |
Looking east along Wilshire Blvd. from the Dominguez-Wilshire Building, 1932.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...G-2057A-H?v=hr [source: USC Digital Library] Looking east along Wilshire Blvd. from the Dominguez-Wilshire Building, 2012. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c...2525202012.jpg [source: Handsome Stranger] |
Paulais Hollywood Blvd. 1925
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4599/paulaiscafe.jpg [url]http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search/controller/view/chs-m30478.html?x=1326316400369[url] http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...lais_front.jpg http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...lais_front.jpg http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside1.jpg http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside1.jpg http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside2.jpg http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside2.jpg [/QUOTE] ~Jon Paul |
I would really like to know what (on the Paulais menu) is meant by:
Malt Drinks: Scotch Brew 25 cents Budweiser 25 cents East Side 15 cents Anyone know? Sounds intriguing.. |
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Eastside Old Tap was an LA institution, surpassing Brew 102 as a local favorite...http://articles.latimes.com/1997/sep/07/local/me-29791 They used to serve it on-tap at the famous Joe Josts in Long Beach in schooners...good beer too Don't know about Scotch Brew |
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Nanking Cafe
It is interesting to see some of the old menu's - but what an interesting address - "1815 1/2 Central Avenue" ?
BTW - any menu's from any of Billy Wilkerson's restaurants or cafes ? Bilbo |
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Ah, I see. Near Beer.
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The Eastside Old Tap in my memory is from the 50's on, at first on the breath of the fathers in my neighborhood and then in the unsteady hands of teenagers in the 60's. This Eastside Old Tap was fully-leaded and pretty good on a hot day. I think they sold it at Wrigley Field also... |
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Snapshots of the Hagenbeck & Wallace Circus in Los Angeles, circa 1938.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3...ckwallace1.jpg ebay above: I wonder if this is the same location as the 1929 auto show fire? Also notice the line of elephants on the street. http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/301...ckwallace1.jpg ebay above: On the left you can see the poster is advertising the circus in Los Angeles (all you see is eles). Above eles is one-third of a G,TON and STS. I'm drawing blanks for the complete name...is it WASHINGTON something? It's probably something quite obvious and I'll be embarrassed when I learn the answer (from one you sleuths). http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7...wallace1by.jpg ebay above: After last month's brouhaha over 'race'....I'm not going anywhere near BLACAMAN. http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3...ckwallace1.jpg ebay above: The 'Annex of Oddities'. http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3...ckwallace1.jpg ebay http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3...ckwallace1.jpg ebay above: This looks more like the plains of North Dakota....but it was included with this Los Angeles group. http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/8...beckw11938.jpg ebay above: There's Blacaman again. :( http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6...beckw21938.jpg ebay above: The Hagenbeck Wallace Advertising Department. ____ The Clyde Beatty Circus in Los Angeles circa 1948 (ten yrs. later than the other snapshots). Los Angeles is written on the small tent in the center...other information is written on two other larger tents. http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3...atty1948lo.jpg ebay above: This also looks like the same location as the auto show fire. ___ |
Lila Leeds And Robert Mitchum Pot Bust
Some of my contributions here haven been a little off topic but I think this one is bona fide noir.
Robert Mitchum is well known but I'd hadn't heard of Lila Leeds until digging into this story. She was really something. Before getting into the the meat of this story here she is in her bungalow, at play. (Steve Hoffman, I know you'll be pained by this photo...such a hottie, yet so careless with her records. Wouldn't we love to know the titles?) http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...ystery_pix.jpg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...ystery_pix.jpg In 1948, Lila paid a $5 fine for stopping traffic. Looks like more than $5 worth of publicity, especially with those rocket breasts! http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot..._1208_crop.jpg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot..._1208_crop.jpg The bust. Bob was an early adopter of weed; a huge fan! September 2, 1948. http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Mitchum_L...tchum.bust.jpg http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Mitchum_L...chum.bust2.jpg http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Mitchum_L...uana.Shack.jpg "An enterprising Mirror photographer took this picture through a window, showing two crime scene investigators at Lila Leeds' home, Jan. 8, 1949." http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...107_police.jpg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...107_police.jpg "Deputy Marjorie Kellog, left, escorts Lila Leeds and Robert Mitchum to jail after their sentencing to 90 days for marijuana, Feb. 9, 1949." http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...ds_mitchum.jpg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...ds_mitchum.jpg The pot bust was exploited, it spawned a movie and even a live show! http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Mitchum_L...ila+leeds2.jpg http://bp0.blogger.com/_l69ZlE6Sw4A/...lila+leeds.jpg http://thisbookisforyou.blogspot.com...1_archive.html Robert Mitchum, sentence served, heading home. He quipped that jail was "just like a weekend in Palm Springs…only you meet a better class of people." http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028131.jpg http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028131.jpg Though Mitchum had other run ins with the law, his career prospered. "Copy of the driver's license of actor Robert Mitchum, who left it with a policeman who cited him for speeding December 2, 1953. Mitchum sped away and later accused the officer of stealing his license. The incident occurred in West Los Angeles." http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028130.jpg But in the years to come the years went on, things didn't go well for Lila Leeds. "Lila Leeds appears with her two unidentified attorneys after being charged in Chicago with soliciting, Jan. 25, 1956. She denied the charges, was convicted and fined $10." http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot..._0125_crop.jpg "Lila Leeds in 1961, 13 years later, showing newspaper clippings about her relationsip with Erwin "Bud" Arvey, the son of Illinois Democratic leader Jake Arvey. She was trying to get child support payments from the Erwin Arvey, saying that he was the father of her son." http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot..._0615_crop.jpg By 1974, Leeds had become a minister with a Hollywood group called Spiritual Mission, Inc., Laymen's Evangelist or SMILE, which operated a church on Western Avenue. In 1976, she was making personal appearances to promote one of Richard Lamparski's "Whatever Became of..." books. According to imdb, she died in 1999. Apparently, neither The Times nor any other major newspaper published an obituary on her. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...?cid=125202120 8443 Ridpath today. "It's so feminine". Photos by me. http://dkse.net/david/Mitchum_Leeds/100_5767.JPG http://dkse.net/david/Mitchum_Leeds/100_5768.JPG |
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