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AviationGuy May 16, 2021 3:28 AM

Isn't the photo of downtown Austin designated as "now" rather outdated?

BillinGlendaleCA May 16, 2021 5:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9281342)
^^^

That's a beautiful photograph! That area doesn't always feel beautiful when you're there because it's so industrial. If that's the right word. Is that white light above the bridge a star, or from last December during the conjunction, when Jupiter and Saturn were so close together?

It could be Jupiter, but not during the conjunction(I do have pictures), that shot was taken in September of 2019.

ETA: I checked my star map app, that star isn't Jupiter, probably Markab in Pegasus.

Martin Pal May 16, 2021 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Tower (Post 9281451)
Fun to see you guys solve this mystery. I’m the author of the above article on the “golden mirror” tower, which is one of my major local historical obsessions — building’s just not the same without it, and it’s great to see these period photos. Just to defend the honor of my hometown for a second, I wanted to mention that the photo of downtown Austin posted above is actually a few years out of date — the tower you can see under construction on the left side was completed in 2016, and we’ve gained a few more standout projects since then: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7gTWLBU22Ck

The Austin SSP forum is very active, and if you’re interested you’ll find a lot more historic and current photos there — we’re not exactly competing with LA architecturally speaking, but we’re working on it. ;)
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Thanks for introducing yourself, Max Tower. I did enjoy your article very much!


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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 9281581)
Isn't the photo of downtown Austin designated as "now" rather outdated?
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I guess you two Texans know your city really well! I didn't post the link to where I got that photo (which I should have), but it was from an Austin based company named Red Wing Aerials, and they have this photo on their home page. It wasn't dated; I assumed it was rather current since this is the business they're in. :shrug: How much "out of date" do you think it is?

https://www.redwingaerials.com/austi...ography-austin

AviationGuy May 16, 2021 8:52 PM

The stairstep building under construction on the lower left in downtown Austin was topped out in September 2015, so the photo may be from about late 2014. A great deal has changed since then. Also, there are talls to the left and right of the photo, most notably to the left, where the tallest in the city is located (The Independent). The real experts post in the Austin forum, particularly KevinfromTexas. I don't want to get into it too much since this is an L.A. forum, but if anyone is interested, the Austin forum is one of the best at SSP. It contains lists of talls being constructed and prosposed, and it's mind boggling.

Edit: I just realized that Max Tower posted something similar to mine!

Someone mentioned snow. We have had snow here many times in my 50 years here, although it's not common, and is usually light when it does occur. I've seen single digits several times regarding temperatures (around zero in 1989 in the valleys within the city). I haven't seen anything like the storm we had in February, with regard to snow depth and persistence of very cold temperatures.

Since this is the L.A. forum, I'll mention that relatively few Americans know that there has been snow in L.A. (not just in the mountains nearby).

BDiH May 17, 2021 4:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 9282032)

Since this is the L.A. forum, I'll mention that relatively few Americans know that there has been snow in L.A. (not just in the mountains nearby).

We built a snowman in our back yard in Burbank in January, 1949. Almost five inches fell.

Snix May 17, 2021 6:37 PM

Spotted a trailer for a 1980 film called "On the Nickel" about Skid Row. There was a great shot of the Hard Rock Cafe at 5th and Wall Streets (300 E. 5th St.) and other locations in the area. Here's a then and now.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d0e851bf_b.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMys8GO7WXc
http://www.onthenickeldvd.com/

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...86214013_z.jpg
GSV

Martin Pal May 17, 2021 7:47 PM

Interesting that the bar would be advertising Color TV in 1980, no?

sopas ej May 17, 2021 8:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9282925)
Interesting that the bar would be advertising Color TV in 1980, no?

I actually don't find that so odd... I remember seeing motel signs with "Color TV" on them well into the 1980s. Maybe it's an old sign...

Or, maybe because well into the 1970s, many little portable TVs were black-and-white. My experience having been born in 1970, my family had a "big" TV in the family room that was in color, and in the mid and late 1970s, when my dad was watching sports on that TV but my sister and I wanted to watch Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, Little House on the Prairie or Donny & Marie (haha!), we had to watch it on the "little" TV in my parents' bedroom, which was a 12-inch portable that was black-and-white.

When I was in the 5th grade (1980-1981 school year), my teacher said that she only had a little black-and-white TV in her apartment, so she couldn't tell that the Incredible Hulk was green, hehe.

Handsome Stranger May 18, 2021 1:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 9283022)
When I was in the 5th grade (1980-1981 school year), my teacher said that she only had a little black-and-white TV in her apartment, so she couldn't tell that the Incredible Hulk was green, hehe.

In high school (late 1970s) I had a friend whose family did not own a color TV, just a black and white one. He told me that the first time he saw Star Trek on a color TV it kind of ruined the show for him. He never expected the colors to be so garish.

sadykadie2 May 18, 2021 4:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 9283022)
I actually don't find that so odd... I remember seeing motel signs with "Color TV" on them well into the 1980s. Maybe it's an old sign...

Or, maybe because well into the 1970s, many little portable TVs were black-and-white. My experience having been born in 1970, my family had a "big" TV in the family room that was in color, and in the mid and late 1970s, when my dad was watching sports on that TV but my sister and I wanted to watch Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, Little House on the Prairie or Donny & Marie (haha!), we had to watch it on the "little" TV in my parents' bedroom, which was a 12-inch portable that was black-and-white.


When I was in the 5th grade (1980-1981 school year), my teacher said that she only had a little black-and-white TV in her apartment, so she couldn't tell that the Incredible Hulk was green, hehe.

Ha, Sopas! you are telling the exact story of my childhood! Right down to the black and white in the parents room. I'm the same age

GatoVerde May 18, 2021 5:42 AM

Two new images on ebay today:

http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/placita1900.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/40284950491...IAAOSwoWdgoT9C



http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPic...townLA1900.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/18484121684...p2047675.l2557

In the first image of the Plaza church, I am wondering if the house on the hill is Banning's old place on Bunker Hill, but probably not since there are two houses and Banning's place stood alone, as far as I remember from images seen.

In the second image, the Boyle Heights Sisters of Charity Orphanage is clearly visible ( https://boyleheightshistoryblog.blog...ns-asylum.html )

GatoVerde May 18, 2021 5:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9282925)
Interesting that the bar would be advertising Color TV in 1980, no?

The sign is from the mid 70's when color TV was still a thing. I found it really odd that it was called the Hard Rock Cafe since by the mid 70s I was already a definite fan of Hard Rock myself, and I didn't really believe there was any Hard Rock being played there -- it looked a lot more like an R&B place, and it seemed to be for locals (skidrow) only.

GaylordWilshire May 18, 2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 9283022)
I actually don't find that so odd... I remember seeing motel signs with "Color TV" on them well into the 1980s. Maybe it's an old sign...

Or, maybe because well into the 1970s, many little portable TVs were black-and-white. My experience having been born in 1970, my family had a "big" TV in the family room that was in color, and in the mid and late 1970s, when my dad was watching sports on that TV but my sister and I wanted to watch Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, Little House on the Prairie or Donny & Marie (haha!), we had to watch it on the "little" TV in my parents' bedroom, which was a 12-inch portable that was black-and-white.

When I was in the 5th grade (1980-1981 school year), my teacher said that she only had a little black-and-white TV in her apartment, so she couldn't tell that the Incredible Hulk was green, hehe.


Reminds me of the late discovery that The Wizard of Oz turned from b&w to color...

https://i.postimg.cc/fbKtP3Yp/wizard4-NLA-bmp.jpg
youtube


KTLA was apparently started by Paramount, so may not have shown MGM's Wizard...anyway, note the "mount" in its early logo:

https://i.postimg.cc/ncPxcnG5/ktla.jpg
http://www.earlytelevision.org/w6xyz.html

Hollywood Graham May 18, 2021 1:32 PM

Hard Rock
 
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Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 9283469)
The sign is from the mid 70's when color TV was still a thing. I found it really odd that it was called the Hard Rock Cafe since by the mid 70s I was already a definite fan of Hard Rock myself, and I didn't really believe there was any Hard Rock being played there -- it looked a lot more like an R&B place, and it seemed to be for locals (skidrow) only.

Hard Rock on skid row was in business serving the inebriated long before there was a Hard Rock Cafe or Hotel. Hard Rock was the most popular bar on 5th Street and provided the Glasshouse Jail with most of its drunk bookings.

RyeRyeLA May 18, 2021 5:19 PM

Thrifty ice cream plant
 
Found this snippet of an article from the Los Angeles Evening Herald and Express from September 14, 1940.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/cwEagh.jpg

Los Angeles Evening Herald and Express



And here it is today (915 N Mansfield Ave):

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/18ppuc.png

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/abQLci.png

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/MkyPEL.png

HossC May 18, 2021 6:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9282925)

Interesting that the bar would be advertising Color TV in 1980, no?

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Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 9283469)

The sign is from the mid 70's when color TV was still a thing.

Season 4 of M*A*S*H ended in February 1976 with an episode called 'The Interview'. It contained newsreel style interviews with the main characters in black and white. After the color opening credits, there's a voice-over stating "The following is in black and white." I guess the network didn't want millions of viewers trying to "fix" their color TVs.

sopas ej May 18, 2021 8:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 9283425)
Ha, Sopas! you are telling the exact story of my childhood! Right down to the black and white in the parents room. I'm the same age

Cool! Nice to know there's someone on here who is the same age as I---fellow Gen-Xer, and someone I assume also graduated high school in 1988. :tup:


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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9284189)
Season 4 of M*A*S*H ended in February 1976 with an episode called 'The Interview'. It contained newsreel style interviews with the main characters in black and white. After the color opening credits, there's a voice-over stating "The following is in black and white." I guess the network didn't want millions of viewers trying to "fix" their color TVs.

Yeah; in the mid-1980s, there was a "Moonlighting" episode that featured two of the main characters' dream sequences both shot in black-and-white, that were homages to 1940s film noir, one being done in the glossy MGM style (Maddie/Cybill Shepherd's dream sequence), the other being done in the grittier Warner Bros. style (David/Bruce Willis' dream sequence). The episode opened with an introduction by Orson Welles, saying that there was nothing wrong with your TV, or something. From what I learned later, the episode was expensive to produce, because by the mid-1980s, black-and-white film stock was rare, and it was even rarer to find a good black-and-white cinematographer. The network originally wanted to shoot the episode in color and just chroma down to black-and-white for broadcast, but the producers were afraid that in reruns, the whole episode would just be shown in color.

BTW "Moonlighting" was my favorite show when I was in high school.

Below is the episode, minus Orson Welles' intro:
Video Link


Hmm, it seems slightly sped up. Oh well. :P

CityBoyDoug May 19, 2021 12:09 AM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...58a095_o_d.jpg
my personal collect

That's my aunt's home east of downtown Los Angeles, Jan 1949....that's her at the right side. Snow was everywhere....we also made little snowmen.
I lived in this house for the year 1947 while our new home was being built in San Gabriel Village.

Arch2000 May 19, 2021 2:01 AM

https://i.redd.it/2c1qb9bicts61.jpg

Any thoughts on where this could be? This is photo of a relative of a relative, he died in Los Angeles in 1926, so likely the photo is from the late 1910s to early 1920s. I'm guessing the photo was taken in Boyle Heights/East LA area (note the Hebrew lettering on the far left).

I don't really think there are enough clues in the photo, but perhaps someone has seen a similar one before to help identify the area. If not, please enjoy this 100-year old photo of Los Angeles!

Noir_Noir May 19, 2021 4:41 AM

:previous:


A speculative punt but here goes.


On the window frame what I make to be the number 1702 is scrawled.


https://i.imgur.com/nwGxhGd.jpg


Which leads to the closest applicable grocers I could find to Boyle Heights in the time frame.


https://i.imgur.com/xWaMdRd.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


:shrug:


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