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Rustifer May 2, 2017 6:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyndihdz (Post 7791531)
Let me try this one more time...not only is my camera gone, my phone is going bonkers....https://flic.kr/p/fchVFv........If this does not work i am very sorry, and very embarrassed...but i do appreciate the help. Thanks.
I'm with you being in awe of the changes in LA over the years. Although not a native Californian myself, I have a certain fascination of the city, especially the film industry history, restaurants and locations. I have often mentioned that I wish I had been about 30 years old, well-to-do and living on Sunset Strip around 1958 to capture the glory of the "beat" years:

"The street that wears a fancy label
that's glorified in song and fable..."

Would have killed to belly up to bar in Dino's and order a martini straight up and just soak in the cigarette-smoke filled atmosphere.

HossC May 2, 2017 7:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DViator (Post 7791879)

I actually met Julius Shulman at an Orange County AIA event years ago, if I can find the photos I'll post them.
Welcome to the thread, DViator, I hope you find those pictures.


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I thought this was going to be another hard-to-find Beverly Hills house from Julius Shulman when I saw the title. It's "Job 3042: William Beckett, Heston House (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1960".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Here's the other image in the set.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

I bet there were more shots in the set, because it shows the home of Charlton Heston. It came onto the market for the first time in 2015. Here are some recent images from Variety (there are more at the link below). I'll start with a wider view of the entrance.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...stonHouse3.jpg

This looks like a sunburst design on the carpet.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...stonHouse4.jpg

A beautiful view blocked by a thousand books!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...stonHouse5.jpg

Finally, the pool. There's also a tennis court (see the Google Maps view below).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...stonHouse6.jpg

All from variety.com/Nourmand & Associates

A 2016 Variety article says that the house sold for $12.2m to French film director-producer Luc Besson. Let's hope he's happy with it, and doesn't raze it to build some ugly monstrosity. The house, which can be found at 2859 Coldwater Canyon Drive, still looks OK on the current aerial view. I've included the whole driveway.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
Google Maps

The house was also covered by la.curbed.com.

CityBoyDoug May 2, 2017 8:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7792162)
Welcome to the thread, DViator, I hope you find those pictures.


This looks like a sunburst design on the carpet.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...stonHouse4.jpg
Lovely home but could there be a bit more drama with the interior decoration.

HossC May 2, 2017 9:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7264068)

I'm sure we've seen this canyon before, but I just can't place it.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Getty Research Institute
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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 7791586)

This looking south-east down at the Hotel Bel-Air.

I know I've disappeared after my first few posts; I've not fallen off the face of the earth, I've just been catching up to y'all. I'm up to page 1650. I thought that you'd post less as time went on, but happily this seems to not be the case.
Thanks, BillinGlendaleCA. Here's a slightly wider current view of Hotel Bel-Air at 701 Stone Canyon Road. I can recognize several of the hotel buildings, but it looks like the big changes are afoot on the hillside in the background.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Google Maps

DViator May 2, 2017 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7792162)
Welcome to the thread, DViator, I hope you find those pictures.
Haven't managed to locate my originals (I was a lot less organized back then!), but i did find the publication they were used in (sorry for the newspaper quality). They were for the 2001 Orange County AIA Design Awards, I was hired by one of the organizers to take some photos at the event. Julius Shulman was awarded the AIAOC President's Award.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Shulman1.jpeg
Julius seated at right.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Shulman2.jpeg
Julius second from right.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...Bradbury1.jpeg
As an added bonus Ray Bradbury (seated) was the keynote speaker. I couldn't afford any of Mr. Shulman's monographs at the time (would have been nice to have one on hand to get autographed), but I did have a copy of Something Wicked This Way Comes for Mr. Bradbury to sign.

Flyingwedge May 3, 2017 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7791575)
Fox's 21cf blog recently posted a good survey of the old Fox Studio at Sunset and Western. That got me interested in that site again.


The main entrance to the West Lot faced on Western, between Sunset and Delongpre. The gable end of the great mill building looms above the Administration Bldg:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0-...g=w793-h534-no


All historic pix from 21cf Blog, unless otherwise noted
Thanks, t2 . . . very interesting.

In his autobiography, The Name Above the Title (The Macmillan Company, 1971), director Frank Capra mentions that
he made his WWII government films at that old Western Avenue studio.

Page 339: "The old Western Avenue Twentieth Century Studios had been abandoned years ago. It was now a pile of
run-down buildings -- a ghost studio. I asked Darryl [Zanuck] to let me have it for my film section and for Tom Lewis's
Armed Forces Radio. He said, 'Of course, it's all yours.' He'd have it cleaned up and painted for me."

Page 339 [regarding Capra's recruiting director George Stevens]: "Come over to Western Avenue. The old Fox studio."

Page 340: "The whole Why We Fight series, the Know Your Ally, Know Your Enemy series, the Army-Navy Screen
Magazine, The Negro Soldier in World War II were all made in that falling-apart borrowed studio with scrounged
furniture and equipment . . . ."

Cyndihdz May 3, 2017 12:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7791921)
Frank Dominic Aloi was Francisco Di Aloi, born in Lugo, Northern Italy on August 4, 1882. His wife was Nicolina (who later went by Lina) He came to the US in 1901. His wife came here in 1907. They were married in 1910 and had eight children. They were all born in California. Frank was a butcher by trade and owned his own shop.

There are lots of naturalization papers on Ancestry and one of them has a picture of him on it. Some of the other naturalization papers show that he was a short man, only 5'5", and stocky. He had dark hair and dark eyes.

It was fairly common in the 1920's to build something and put your name on it, even just a last name. It sort of gave the family permanence, especially fairly recent immigrants to this country. In this case, it was the family business as well. I did note in my research that there was another family member who was a blacksmith and who had a shop within the same block. Frank worked in the blacksmith shop shortly after coming to the US.

He is noted to be retired in the 1940 voter registration. He is living at the Bell address at that time.

The building address, which is now on Gage Avenue, when searched with the county assessor's office, shows a build date of 1922

He died in 1971 and is buried in Calvary Cemetery.
Wow! I will look into that...thank you!

ethereal_reality May 3, 2017 1:01 AM
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/XufSZX.png
http://lesdiagonalesdutemps.over-blog.com/

"Academy Awards Coffee Shop waitress, USA Hollywood CA 1960"




A closer look.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/GU9OJF.jpg
taken by Dennis Stock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Stock

So was this coffee shop at the Academy Headquarters or the Academy Awards Ceremony?
(1960 was the last year the ceremony was held at the Pantages Theater in Hollywood)

To me, the bust looks like Marlon Brando. (possibly a left-over prop from 'Julius Caesar', 1953)




This curious photo is on the front of the cash register.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/49fYG8.jpgdetail

To me, it looks like it was taken at an early gay pride parade. (I have no idea why it's on the front of the cash register)




This second snapshot on the cash register has me stumped.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/4uznsk.jpgdetail

Could the man on the left be Humphrey Bogart and the larger man Clark Gable. (?)



And here's the 'thingy' on top of the register.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...923/ePlawm.jpg

? ? ? ? ? ( no. idea.)






One last curious item.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/L1ItaK.jpgdetail

It's a triangular placard that appears to be advertising a coffee shop on Sunset Boulevard (I can't read the four digit street number)

The illustration is a Parisian kiosk.

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tovangar2 May 3, 2017 1:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7792481)
Thanks, t2 . . . very interesting.

In his autobiography, The Name Above the Title (The Macmillan Company, 1971), director Frank Capra mentions that
he made his WWII government films at that old Western Avenue studio.

Page 339: "The old Western Avenue Twentieth Century Studios had been abandoned years ago. It was now a pile of
run-down buildings -- a ghost studio.
That is so interesting. Maybe it was that filming that got Zanuck interested in the studio again. Fox Television was later based there and the lot continued to be used for B-movies. Some sources say until the 60s, but the photo below was taken in '71:
Quote:
Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7791575)
(:previous: and check out that flying saucer)

By the 70s, the studio was not the showplace it was when William Fox was in charge (below), but still very much a going concern.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ak...Q=w802-h530-no
21cfblog

Of course Deluxe was there the whole time, from 1917 to 2014. That's quite a run.



And, hey, what about that bench? Do you think it still exists somewhere in the back of the property department?

CityBoyDoug May 3, 2017 2:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7792540)
Correct ER.
The plaster bust above is Marlon Brando by self-taught artist Kenneth Kendall ..
More about Mr. Kendall at this link....http://www.kennethkendallart.com/about

Kenneth Kendall, a West Hollywood portrait painter and sculptor, met James Dean only once, when the young actor dropped by Kendall's studio on Melrose Avenue.

But that meeting in early 1955 would have a lasting effect on Kendall, who devoted the next half a century to preserving Dean's memory through oil paintings, sculptures and monuments.

Dennis Stock's claim to fame was that he was a friend and photographer of actor James Dean.

His book link is below:

https://www.amazon.com/Dennis-Stock-...ock+james+dean

James Dean and Dennis Stock....1955

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps3e1twzab.jpg
1.bp.blogspot.

CityBoyDoug May 3, 2017 3:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7792540)


This curious photo is on the front of the cash register.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/49fYG8.jpgdetail

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Just a guess but it could be a location scene from an early biker film such as "The Wild One"....Marlon Brando, 1953.

Beaudry May 3, 2017 6:16 AM
Some shots from Bo Bushnell's Instagram of vintage So Cal MC culture (from which I've posted before). These are all of Venice.

Venice has of course gentrified tremendously, so it's nice to see the place when it still had some funk to it.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4156/3...63fe78a3_b.jpg
Somewhere in Venice, 1967

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4170/3...224397b9_b.jpg
Venice Beach, 1967

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2854/3...90b19e72_b.jpg
Venice, 1967

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4188/3...58f0c139_b.jpg
Near Linnie at the Grand Canal.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4168/3...59433146_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4184/3...300bf598_b.jpg
Venice & Sawtelle, 1971

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4177/3...cff283c0_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4180/3...b16e9d68_b.jpg
Venice & Lincoln. Nice to see the car wash and adjacent building still there. The Standard is now a Chevron so the signage is still pretty similar.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4168/3...fa4bd18f_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4169/3...275c624c_b.jpg
Pacific Avenue at Westminster Park


https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4185/3...4f722b45_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4168/3...5b378683_b.jpg
I believe Virginia Court became Court E? All of this replaced by much larger development.

The canals also have a cameo in the opening credits of seminal 1966 AIP bikesploitation pic The Wild Angels:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4172/3...e44c1906_b.jpg

ethereal_reality May 3, 2017 6:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7792591)
Correct ER.
The plaster bust above is Marlon Brando by self-taught artist Kenneth Kendall ..
More about Mr. Kendall at this link....http://www.kennethkendallart.com/about

Kenneth Kendall, a West Hollywood portrait painter and sculptor, met James Dean only once, when the young actor dropped by Kendall's studio on Melrose Avenue.

But that meeting in early 1955 would have a lasting effect on Kendall, who devoted the next half a century to preserving Dean's memory through oil paintings, sculptures and monuments.

Dennis Stock's claim to fame was that he was a friend and photographer of actor James Dean.

His book link is below:

https://www.amazon.com/Dennis-Stock-...ock+james+dean

James Dean and Dennis Stock....1955

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps3e1twzab.jpg
1.bp.blogspot.
:previous: Excellent sleuthing CityBoyDoug!

I wonder how the bust ended up in the coffee shop?


Here's the artist with the Marlon Brandon bust. (per your link)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/DKMgta.jpg
http://www.kennethkendallart.com/about





It turns out, the artist was an extra during the "Friends,Romans..Countrymen" speech in 'Julius Caesar'.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/aV4o2C.jpg
http://www.kennethkendallart.com/about


Quote:
Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug
Kenneth Kendall, a West Hollywood portrait painter and sculptor, met James Dean only once, when the young actor dropped by Kendall's studio on Melrose Avenue.

The studio on Melrose.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/E8L4CR.jpg

I checked 'gsv' & couldn't locate the building. I'm afraid it's long gone. :(
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ethereal_reality May 3, 2017 6:48 AM
The Rex Arms from one of the rooms in the Statler Hotel [c.1960]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/ElkTyk.jpg
ebay

:previous: This is pretty amazing. (is that a huge water-tower on the top of that building in the distance?)




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/WZH36s.jpg
ebay









One of the non-Statler slides.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/ODAKRo.jpg
ebay


The window at Florsheim's.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/2zIgmI.jpg
ebay


The link to all the slides. (including several more of the Statler) Enjoy!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1960...QAAOSwSypY~vld

BifRayRock May 3, 2017 2:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7792732)
Venice has of course gentrified tremendously, so it's nice to see the place when it still had some funk to it.


https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4188/3...58f0c139_b.jpg
Near Linnie at the Grand Canal.


The canals also have a cameo in the opening credits of seminal 1966 AIP bikesploitation pic The Wild Angels:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4172/3...e44c1906_b.jpg






A few short years earlier, circa 1960, Venice was somewhat forlorn and off the beaten path, which of course is one of the reasons it attracted "funk" and "beat" etc. Some referred to the area as a slum. Venice also served as a home base for artistic/political/philosophical iconoclasts, like Tom Laughlin, of "Billy Jack" fame. Tom and his wife, Delores Taylor, founded a Montessori preschool in Santa Monica in'59.






Quote:
Venice had always had a shady side. Like any tourist town where amusement is paramount, shifty things had been going on at 1501 Ocean Front for decades. The site had been cited for illegal gambling at least three times in 1928, 1934, and 1943. The 1928 bust had involved a dart game, played by over 85 people, that had been run by John Dobson, who lived at the nearby St. Marks Hotel.

After the war, all the amusement seemed to fully drain out of Venice. The beachfront was an area filled with pensioners, bums, and addicts, and nobody would have bet on it becoming the center of a cultural movement anytime soon. But for a group of dissatisfied, searching young men and women, the low rent and squalid glamour of Venice was just what they were looking for. By the early to mid-50s, women with smoky eyes and men wearing jeans and sandals were moving into the cheap apartment hotels that surrounded the boardwalk, living on little but money and ideals.https://www.kcet.org/history-society...ce-beachs-soul


The Gas House (demolished in '62), and many of the characters pictured below, is discussed in this article: The Gas House: Beatniks vs. Neatniks and the Battle for Venice Beach's Soul." https://www.kcet.org/history-society...ce-beachs-soul





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Tom and his familia
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Billy Jack and wife/costar Delores
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...9c2600e014.jpg http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...9c2600e014.jpg


Billy Jack v Chuck Norris? :coolugh: :surrender:




Um, dig it.
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When incandescents were hot.

Artist Nico Van Den Heuvel. Previously mentioned on NLA.
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Time out for a sandwich?

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One has to wonder . . . whether pre-Gilligan, Bob Denver, spent time at the Gas House, researching his Maynard G. Krebs character. :yes:

Dwayne Hickman and Bob Denver as Dobie and Maynard
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MichaelRyerson May 3, 2017 3:13 PM
Two of my favorite James Dean pics both by Dennis Stock...
 
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4174/3...b411ecf7_o.jpgBack home in Indiana, 1955


Getting a haircut in Fairmount, Indiana, 1955, photo by Dennis Stock



https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2874/9...de82255d_o.jpgFairmount, Dennis Stock, 1955.


With his cousin Markie. Fairmount, Indiana,1955.

Photo by Dennis Stock


Then a bit of the hip...


https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2860/3...a2f180e4_b.jpgThe Interlude and the Crescendo, 8572 Sunset Boulevard, 1957


The Interlude and the Crescendo, joined at the hip. (I think this may have been on here a while back)


And then a turn to the beat side...


https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2940/3...01a48a11_b.jpgBeat, 1958


April 1958. "The 'Beatnik' community of San Francisco's North Beach district, socializing at a local coffee house, at a 'beat' party and other activities." 35mm negative from photos by Cal Bernstein for the Look magazine assignment "The Bored, the Bearded and the Beat."

GaylordWilshire May 3, 2017 3:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7792742)


The window at Florsheim's.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/2zIgmI.jpg
ebay


The link to all the slides. (including several more of the Statler) Enjoy!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1960...QAAOSwSypY~vld

"Goddam Florsheim shoe!" --Jake Gittes

tovangar2 May 3, 2017 4:15 PM
Rex Arms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7792742)
The Rex Arms from one of the rooms in the Statler Hotel [c.1960]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/ElkTyk.jpg
ebay
Ragging?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IT...A=w315-h614-no
laherald 4 sept 1913

Blaster May 3, 2017 5:02 PM
Dancing to ragtime music?

Rustifer May 3, 2017 5:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 7793011)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4174/3...b411ecf7_o.jpgBack home in Indiana, 1955


Getting a haircut in Fairmount, Indiana, 1955, photo by Dennis Stock



https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2874/9...de82255d_o.jpgFairmount, Dennis Stock, 1955.


With his cousin Markie. Fairmount, Indiana,1955.

Photo by Dennis Stock





Then a bit of the hip...


https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2860/3...a2f180e4_b.jpgThe Interlude and the Crescendo, 8572 Sunset Boulevard, 1957


The Interlude and the Crescendo, joined at the hip. (I think this may have been on here a while back)


And then a turn to the beat side...


https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2940/3...01a48a11_b.jpgBeat, 1958


April 1958. "The 'Beatnik' community of San Francisco's North Beach district, socializing at a local coffee house, at a 'beat' party and other activities." 35mm negative from photos by Cal Bernstein for the Look magazine assignment "The Bored, the Bearded and the Beat."
Being an Indiana native, I'm always surprised that the fact James Dean was from here is not more of a big deal in my state. Oh sure, there's a small museum in Fairmount dedicated to him, and the anniversary of his death and / or birthday usually gets a small write-up in the local news.
But for the most part, and considering Indiana is generally not the mecca from which most Hollywood icons hail from, James Dean is not celebrated nearly as much as Jimmy Dean (we're big on breakfast meats here).
I always though James a bit over-emoting in his roles. That teenage angst thing got a little old after a while.

Steve McQueen was way more cool. I'm sure many will disagree with me.


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