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Flyingwedge Apr 6, 2015 6:00 AM

Bendix Beacon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6978665)

That's great, but what about the beacon above the BENDIX sign? Has that also been restored?

c. 1935:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/20538

Contemporary, by ax2groin:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original
Previously posted by er

April 1, 1930 Air Commerce Bulletin:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...q.jpg~original
Hathitrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=515

oldstuff Apr 6, 2015 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6976665)
ER:

Many people call that style of architecture...Brutalist or Brutalism.

Here's a link to several other examples of LA Brutalism. Some people actually like it. I call it S&M architecture!

https://www.laconservancy.org/archit...tyle/brutalist

The County Assessor has a build date of 1930 with some changes being made in 1954. Of course, there is no indication of what the changes were. It is a big building with a square footage of almost 31, 000 square feet. Currently there is a sign on it which indicates that they do event rentals. Maybe someone could get inside and see what the interior is like, foreboding or otherwise.

tovangar2 Apr 6, 2015 4:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6978707)
That's great, but what about the beacon above the BENDIX sign? Has that also been restored?




LOL, I don't know. Wouldn't it just shine on the mid-sections of downtown skyscrapers? Plus, Grand Central Airport was decommissioned in 1959, so pointing it out to lost pilots would not be a kindness.




There's also this:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...92701%2BAM.jpg
flickr

HossC Apr 6, 2015 5:16 PM

The Sisters' Orphans Home/Los Angeles Orphanage/LA Orphan Asylum got briefly written about a few times near the beginning of this thread (e.g. post #91), and even got a passing mention last week by MichaelRyerson. A small version of this image was posted by rcarlton back in post #6691, but I thought a larger view was justified. This is how it looks at 20% zoom. Go to 100% and you can count the bricks! The source dates the image at circa 1899 (with a question mark).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Denver Public Library

Beaudry provided a great link about the building's history in post #6697. Here's how the area looked in 1921. It was just south of the Hollenbeck Home.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...phansHome2.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com

The building was damaged in the 1933 Long Beach earthquake, and later by excavation for the nearby freeways. It was eventually demolished in the late '50s (see pcad.lib.washington.edu for more infomation). Here's an aerial view from 1952, a year before the new facility, Maryvale School, was opened.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...phansHome3.jpg
Historic Aerials

Finally, even more of those pesky freeways now cut across the site.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...phansHome4.jpg
Google Maps

jg6544 Apr 6, 2015 6:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6245501)


Remembering a time when Wilshire Boulevard's sidewalks were bordered by grass. :surrender:

1926 - Fabulous Wilshire looking west from Manhattan Place. St. James' ongoing construction? A glimpse of residences prior to Wilshire Pro Building's construction?
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics19/00009293.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics19/00009293.jpg


Wonderful set; I just discovered them! The St. James' church that still stands at the corner of Wilshire and St. Andrew's Place was begun in 1925, so this shot is probably taken before it opened. In the ensuing 90 years, the old Parish Hall was torn down and replaced; all of the stained glass windows were finished and installed, and the courtyard between the church and the parish hall was landscaped. St. James' School (to the north on St. Andrew's) was opened. Perino's moved down closer to the Ambassador Hotel. The subway opened. The office building, sadly, has seen brighter days and rumor has it that the current owner wants to demolish it and put up something larger.

CityBoyDoug Apr 6, 2015 9:21 PM

Childhood Memories....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6979169)
The Sisters' Orphans Home/Los Angeles Orphanage/LA Orphan Asylum got briefly written about a few times near the beginning of this thread (e.g. post #91), and even got a passing mention last week by MichaelRyerson. A small version of this image was posted by rcarlton back in post #6691, but I thought a larger view was justified. This is how it looks at 20% zoom. Go to 100% and you can count the bricks! The source dates the image at circa 1899 (with a question mark).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Denver Public Library

Beaudry provided a great link about the building's history in post #6697. Here's how the area looked in 1921. It was just south of the Hollenbeck Home.



This building holds a particularly horrific memory for myself.

One day, in about 1953, my step-father and I were driving by this building. He told me it was the Orphan's Home. At that moment he threatened to send me to live in this building. I was about 10 years old and shocked beyond belief. I will never forget that nightmare moment.

He passed away when I was 17, that was a sad and happy day for me. I was finally free of his torment.

Flyingwedge Apr 6, 2015 10:47 PM

Bendix rooftop follow-up
 
If the beacon has been turned off and unmaintained for 76 years, I would think getting it going again would be very difficult if not impossible:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original
March 15, 1939 Air Commerce Bulletin @ HathiTrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=301

ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2015 1:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6977698)
This building is on the NW corner of Pico Blvd. and Fox Hills Drive. The 20th Century-Fox Studio, formerly the Fox Film Corporation Studio, is in the background to the right.
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...h.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/84868

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original
GSV

:previous: What a great find FlyingWedge! I'm delighted this charming little building with the arched windows has survived.

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sopas ej Apr 7, 2015 2:26 AM

I love that post, HossC, of the Los Angeles Orphan Asylum and the maps. Now I know exactly where this was.

LA Orphan Asylum, 1924.
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...18&oe=55A6245D
LAPL

Caption: "Probably the happiest family in the city this Christmas will be the Carl Johnsons, as Mrs. Johnson returns her daughters Yvonne and Monica to their home on December 9, 1950, after four years of life at the Los Angeles Orphanage. Both Mr. and Mrs. Johnson were hospitalized during that time with severe chest infections. Sister Serena waves goodbye". Photo dated 1950.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...e220f5834e3fcb
LAPL

ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2015 3:17 AM

:previous: I always thought the Los Angeles Orphan's Asylum was much farther east.
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ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2015 3:42 AM

'mystery' view.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/FHWXf1.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/2FGC4L.jpg
old file / possibly eBay

"foothills, Los Angeles vicinity"
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MartinTurnbull Apr 7, 2015 4:03 AM

Friars and The Willows
 
I found these two fab neon works of art on this page:

http://www.doobybrain.com/2013/06/13...igns-at-night/

In the LACDs I found a listing for the Friars at 742 Vermont Ave. but came up empty handed for The Willows.

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...ermont-Ave.jpg

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...he-Willows.jpg

Otis Criblecoblis Apr 7, 2015 4:27 AM

Just a shoot-from-the-hip guess
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6980034)
'mystery' view.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/FHWXf1.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/2FGC4L.jpg
old file / possibly eBay

"foothills, Los Angeles vicinity"
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Brand Boulevard in Glendale?

C. King Apr 7, 2015 5:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 6980077)
Brand Boulevard in Glendale?

I agree, it looks like it is looking north along Brand Blvd from Dryden St.. The brick apartment building on the extreme left is still standing.


Casey

HossC Apr 7, 2015 9:19 AM

:previous:

Here's the same view today. I cropped it to include a little more of the brick apartment building mentioned by C. King.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...NBrandBlvd.jpg
GSV

HossC Apr 7, 2015 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 6980051)

In the LACDs I found a listing for the Friars at 742 Vermont Ave. but came up empty handed for The Willows.

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...he-Willows.jpg
http://www.doobybrain.com/2013/06/13...igns-at-night/

HDL has a zoomable version of this image - you can find it here. It's part of a set of five pictures which are dated 2/18/1955. Sadly, the location is only given as California, and my initial searches have only yielded Pinterest and Flickr copies of the same image. The photographer was Joseph Fadler. Here's a view of the restaurant from the same set.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library

The three interior shots appear to have been taken during the day. This is the most interesting.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library

I also found a second photoset at HDL that appears to show The Willows at a different location. The photos are also by Joseph Fadler, and are dated 3/17/1954. The other two images in this set again show interior views.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library

ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2015 4:09 PM

:previous: That sparkling clean kitchen is pretty impressive.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/gyOrGl.jpg
Ralph Cantos at http://www.pacificelectric.org/

"If you look closely at the window to the left of the motorman, the special effects people have drawn cracks in the window to make it look damaged."

Mr. Cantos doesn't say what movie this is from. Does anyone know?

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Flyingwedge Apr 7, 2015 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6980560)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/gyOrGl.jpg
Ralph Cantos at http://www.pacificelectric.org/

"If you look closely at the window to the left of the motorman, the special effects people have drawn cracks in the window to make it look damaged."

Mr. Cantos doesn't say what movie this is from. Does anyone know?

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Hog Wild, 1930. Very funny. Ollie tries to install a radio antenna on the roof with Stan's help. A prop house was built on Madison Avenue in Culver City just for the movie.

http://laurelandhardyfilms.com/films...ls/all#/page/1

tovangar2 Apr 7, 2015 5:12 PM

The Edison Photographers
 
Joseph Fadler, 1955

These photos, many of which may be found on the thread, all appear to be from the Southern California Edison Archive at the Huntington DL. There's an article on why these photos were taken here:

"Edison’s photographers recorded power generation and distribution, from monumental dams, tall transmission lines and squat power plants, distribution yards and substations. But for those curious enough to look beyond the prosaic telephone poles and switching stations, the Edison archive offers a host of fascinating detail about emerging post-war society in the Los Angeles Basin.

While Edison’s photographers were charged with documenting the electrification of a modern metropolis, they also illustrated electricity’s myriad uses — bold neon advertisements and signage; illuminated storefronts and car showrooms...; whimsical coffee shops and gleaming fast food restaurants; vast supermarkets that served as temples to mass consumption; the domestic comfort and convenience of the modern electric home; and extended leisure activities offered by commercial recreation in bowling alleys, roller skating rinks, night-lit swimming pools and tennis courts."


An online exhibition, introduced by the article above, using some of the Edison photographs for their social history value is here.

HossC Apr 7, 2015 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6980608)

Hog Wild, 1930. Very funny. Ollie tries to install a radio antenna on the roof with Stan's help. A prop house was built on Madison Avenue in Culver City just for the movie.

http://laurelandhardyfilms.com/films...ls/all#/page/1

You beat me too it, Flyingwedge.

The whole short is on YouTube - watch it here. The car squashing scene is near the end.

I also found another video called Hog Wild - Laurel and Hardy - Filming Locations which shows "then and now" comparisons.

CityBoyDoug Apr 7, 2015 6:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6980695)
Joseph Fadler, 1955

These photos, many of which may be found on the thread, all appear to be from the Southern California Edison Archive at the Huntington DL. There's an article on why these photos were taken here:

"Edison’s photographers recorded power generation and distribution, from monumental dams, tall transmission lines and squat power plants, distribution yards and substations. But for those curious enough to look beyond the prosaic telephone poles and switching stations, the Edison archive offers a host of fascinating detail about emerging post-war society in the Los Angeles Basin.

While Edison’s photographers were charged with documenting the electrification of a modern metropolis, they also illustrated electricity’s myriad uses — bold neon advertisements and signage; illuminated storefronts and car showrooms...; whimsical coffee shops and gleaming fast food restaurants; vast supermarkets that served as temples to mass consumption; the domestic comfort and convenience of the modern electric home; and extended leisure activities offered by commercial recreation in bowling alleys, roller skating rinks, night-lit swimming pools and tennis courts."


An online exhibition, introduced by the article above, using some of the Edison photographs for their social history value is here.


$00.20 Burger in 1955

Has the same buying power as:

$1.75 in 2015.

Burger King Value Meal in 2015 ~ Bacon Cheeseburger Deluxe $1.69

Interesting take on inflation or the actual lack of it.

HossC Apr 7, 2015 7:00 PM

I'm still working my way through the USC photoset "Properties about town owned by Hugh Evans Co." from which Tourmaline posted some images recently.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ndoahArms1.jpg
USC Digital Library

There's very little information about the locations of most of the subjects, but this one comes with a big clue next to the door. I found the Shenandoah Arms at 1482 Shenandoah Avenue.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ndoahArms2.jpg
Detail of picture above.

I've gone back to February 2014 to get a GSV shot without leaves on the trees, I think that the building has survived relatively unmolested (I know it's lost its urns from the roof), and even still seems to have the same nameplate by the door. The house next door has been replaced by more modern apartments.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ndoahArms3.jpg
GSV

tovangar2 Apr 7, 2015 7:16 PM

extant neon
 
Three extant neon signs not on the Lumens list:

The Frolic Room, in the Pantages Building, 6245 Hollywood Blvd:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...12442%2BAM.jpg

I've posted this one before, but only a daytime shot.
Half Moon Motel, 3958 Sepulveda Blvd, Culver City:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q...12214%2BAM.jpg
(it used to drive my kids crazy that the sign says "Half Moon" but shows a crescent moon)

I wish this one was 50 feet tall.
Brent Air Swimming Pool Services,
4721 W Slauson Avenue, Windsor Hills:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...10838%2BPM.jpg

But, alas, she's only Tinkerbell-size:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x...12954%2BAM.jpg
gsv

(all other pix LA Weekly)

ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2015 7:39 PM

:previous: "tinker-bell size" lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwrof3 (Post 6978496)
I've been spending a lot of time in historic downtown San Pedro lately for work.
If anyone is interested in any buildings in San Pedro, I am willing to take photos!

Thanks for the offer pwrof3! I really enjoyed the photographs you posted.
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oldstuff Apr 7, 2015 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6980230)
:previous:

Here's the same view today. I cropped it to include a little more of the brick apartment building mentioned by C. King.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...NBrandBlvd.jpg
GSV

The building on the right with the large "R" sign on it is the Glendale "Recess" eatery we discussed a few days ago.

Also in the original photo, the streetcar is going along Brand. At the very top of the street, where Brand runs into Kenneth Road, is a planter, now filled with Agapanthas and Crepe Myrtle trees which used to be the anchors for the catenaries for the street cars. Also, just below that, at the juncture of Brand and Mountain is an underground chamber, which, I understood from my mother, was the power supply for that end of the streetcar line, or a restroom for the motormen. It is on a little island with a white wrought iron fence around it. There used to be a stairway down but now it is boarded up.

MichaelRyerson Apr 7, 2015 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6966873)
Colleagues, confederates, and comrades—

This Sunday, from 2-4pm, there's a free event I believe may pique some interest among the fold. Am delivering a lecture on the built environment of Victorian LA, with an eye toward, but not limited to, Romanesque revival.

You have to sign up for it; for all the info click here.

Should I have no idea what I'm talking about, a) there will be lots of pretty pictures, and b) it's in a bar so the cocktails and comestibles will be plentiful, so how bad could it be?

To give you an idea of the forthcoming what-have-you, assorted screengrabs from the Powerpoint:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8726/...f49e37e759.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8737/...082180d3fd.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7610/...0b2fd103fe.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8738/...fb4a249213.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8724/...153fb1528d.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7641/...588528a5de.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7282/...f09405b8d1.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8695/...d6b9ab104e.jpg https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8748/...a262ee2753.jpg

Beaudry, I didn't see it mentioned so I'll ask: Where are the 1888 red sandstone courthouse remnants on display? Thanks. MR

ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2015 8:00 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...912/8diy5X.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/3bE722.jpg
http://pasadenadigitalhistory.com/

"Police and fire personnel responding to automobile collision. We believe this is Colorado Boulevard." written on back of photo. -No Date


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ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2015 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 6981011)
The building on the right with the large "R" sign on it is the Glendale "Recess" eatery we discussed a few days ago.

Also in the original photo, the streetcar is going along Brand. At the very top of the street, where Brand runs into Kenneth Road, is a planter, now filled with Agapanthas and Crepe Myrtle trees which used to be the anchors for the catenaries for the street cars. Also, just below that, at the juncture of Brand and Mountain is an underground chamber, which, I understood from my mother, was the power supply for that end of the streetcar line, or a restroom for the motormen. It is on a little island with a white wrought iron fence around it. There used to be a stairway down but now it is boarded up.

Very interesting information oldstuff. Is this the underground chamber you're talking about?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/QOw2VA.jpg
GSV


It still has an antiquated light.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/UC48sp.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2015 8:24 PM

This was in an old file of mine with the other Brand Blvd. photo I just posted (thanks Otis, C. King and HossC for figuring out the location)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/bDphnZ.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...901/wIwG6r.jpg
old file/eBay, possibly pacificelectric.org.

I believe the 'underground chamber' oldstuff mentioned is directly behind the streetcar. I'm really curious about it.
Do you really think it might have contained a bathroom for motormen?

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tovangar2 Apr 7, 2015 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6981020)
Beaudry, I didn't see it mentioned so I'll ask: Where are the 1888 red sandstone courthouse remnants on display? Thanks. MR

In case Beaudry takes a while, the remnants are in City Terrace Park. I only know this because JScott told me.

1079 N Hazard Ave, ELA:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...14015%2BPM.jpg
gsv

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...14551%2BPM.jpg
lots more pix at Richard Schave's flickr here.

HossC Apr 7, 2015 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6981084)

I believe the 'underground chamber' oldstuff mentioned is directly behind the streetcar. I'm really curious about it.
Do you really think it might have contained a bathroom for motormen?

The picture below shows the same intersection on N Brand. I found it in an article on thesource.metro.net which includes a couple of "then and now" comparisons on N Brand. The caption says "The top photo was taken in April 1955 at Brand Boulevard and Mountain Avenue — literally the end of the Pacific Electric line."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...BrandBlvd2.jpg
http://thesource.metro.net

One of the comments, posted by "mike dunn", says "Concerning Brand and Mountain. Look closely and in the middle of street you see a iron fence. Even into the RTD when Buses layed over there the operators used an underground restroom gained access via this gated entrance."

ethereal_reality Apr 7, 2015 9:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6981122)
The courthouse remnants are in City Terrace Park.

1079 N Hazard Ave, ELA:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...14551%2BPM.jpg
lots more pix at Richard Schave's flickr here.

I'm surprised they're just lying on the ground unprotected. :(

They should be displayed with dignity like the architectural fragments at the Chicago Art Institute.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/nTn0bO.jpg
http://theartinstituteofchicago.blog...gments_21.html
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tovangar2 Apr 7, 2015 9:08 PM

:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6981150)
I'm surprised they're just lying on the ground unprotected. :(

Generations of kids have played on the remnants. They're pretty worn.


I wonder what happened to Blind Justice:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e...80319%2BAM.jpg
denver pl (detail)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R...21702%2BPM.jpg
previously posted by JScott (detail)

"Even before the Long Beach earthquake, the Red
Sandstone Courthouse — once called “the jewel of Los
Angeles” — was dramatically and rapidly deteriorating.
In February 1932 a section of stone from the courthouse
clock tower broke off and crashed through the roof of
Judge Joseph Sproul’s office. The accident fortuitously
occurred at 6:25 a.m., so no one was hurt. The
structure was so compromised that within a few
weeks the clock tower and other ornamentation
were removed and a new roof installed.
A year later, the Long Beach earthquake dealt
the courthouse its final blow."
- California Supreme Court Historical Society

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w...04854%2BAM.jpg
water and power

CityBoyDoug Apr 7, 2015 9:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6981123)
The picture below shows the same intersection on N Brand. I found it in an article on thesource.metro.net which includes a couple of "then and now" comparisons on N Brand. The caption says "The top photo was taken in April 1955 at Brand Boulevard and Mountain Avenue — literally the end of the Pacific Electric line."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...BrandBlvd2.jpg
http://thesource.metro.net

One of the comments, posted by "mike dunn", says "Concerning Brand and Mountain. Look closely and in the middle of street you see a iron fence. Even into the RTD when Buses layed over there the operators used an underground restroom gained access via this gated entrance."

Believe it or not, finding usable toilets for bus-trolley drivers is a real problem worldwide. Some cities actually hire people to constantly scout out locations that their bus drivers can use.
One city in Oregon pays $100,000 a year to the potty finder man.

Martha and Bob. A day in their life.

"What did you do today at work, Dear?"
"I had a great day. I visited 75 toilets, most smelled OK and I added them to my list."
"I'm so proud of you, Bob. What a wonderful husband."

Tetsu Apr 8, 2015 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6973084)
Lucretia Garfield's First Lady tenure: 4 March, 1881 - 19 September, 1881

1001 Buena Vista Street, Pasadena. Former First Lady's picturesque abode.
http://www.family-images.com/ca/CA%2...ld%20Color.jpghttp://www.family-images.com/ca/CA%2...ld%20Color.jpg

Interesting coincidence, a physical copy of the postcard of the Lucretia Garfield residence in South Pasadena, recently posted by Tourmaline, is currently on display at the Pasadena Public Library:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4krt6twt.jpgmy file

Next to it is a postcard of the Robert Burdette house, which we've also previously discussed on NLA:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...pskxt7bke0.jpgmy file

Wig-Wag Apr 8, 2015 1:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6981169)
Believe it or not, finding usable toilets for bus-trolley drivers is a real problem worldwide. Some cities actually hire people to constantly scout out locations that their bus drivers can use.
One city in Oregon pays $100,000 a year to the potty finder man.

Martha and Bob. A day in their life.

"What did you do today at work, Dear?"
"I had a great day. I visited 75 toilets, most smelled OK and I added them to my list."
"I'm so proud of you, Bob. What a wonderful husband."

To ad a bit more to this loo-loo of a discussion, it appears that in the 1940's there was an above ground comfort station at this location as seen in this photo from the PERY Historical society site: http://www.pacificelectric.org/categ...trict/page/20/. Note that the motorman of PCC 5003 is beating feet in the direction of the tile roofed structure with multiple vent windows. The house to the right is still there today, overlooking the former underground facility that has appeared in 1950's photo.

Cheers,
Jack

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...psi0wumkrw.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...psbtndch6g.jpg

CityBoyDoug Apr 8, 2015 2:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 6981489)
To ad a bit more to this loo-loo of a discussion, it appears that in the 1940's there was an above ground comfort station at this location as seen in this photo from the PERY Historical society site: http://www.pacificelectric.org/categ...trict/page/20/. Note that the motorman of PCC 5003 is beating feet in the direction of the tile roofed structure with multiple vent windows. The house to the right is still there today, overlooking the former underground facility that has appeared in 1950's photo.

Cheers,
Jack

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Most interesting Jack. I notice the same house at the right. We can see how tall the palm trees have grown. My guess is the toilet might be PRIVATE...he probably had a key to the door. That site does not seem to be a location where you would place a public loo.


Flyingwedge Apr 8, 2015 5:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pwrof3 (Post 6978496)
I've been spending a lot of time in historic downtown San Pedro lately for work.

And here is the Bank of San Pedro. Miraculously restored on the outside, but it looks like it's been modernized on the inside as it has been turned into lofts.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8815/...270a049d_o.jpgWP_20150402_21_06_11_Pro by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr
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https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7714/...2808fb72_o.jpgWP_20150402_21_06_55_Pro by ryanrpalmer, on Flickr

Would love to see some historic photos of these.

Also, if anyone is interested in any buildings in San Pedro, I am willing to take photos!

Hey, thanks for your offer!

This photo looks west on 7th Street from Centre Street toward Mesa Street and the Bank of San Pedro building on the SW corner of Mesa and 7th. Compared with your nice current photos, it looks like the original second story was removed and two new, recessed upper stories were added when the building was made a part of the lofts that were built on either side of it:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...e.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics48/00043986.jpg

The photo was taken April 4, 1942, and it shows a Japanese evacuees' auto caravan. Have the streetlights in the photo been modified for wartime?

Beaudry Apr 8, 2015 7:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6981122)
In case Beaudry takes a while, the remnants are in City Terrace Park. I only know this because JScott told me.

1079 N Hazard Ave, ELA:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...14015%2BPM.jpg
gsv

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...14551%2BPM.jpg
lots more pix at Richard Schave's flickr here.

I do tend to take a while! The curse of being eternally distracted. Get theeself off to City Terrace Park, indeed!

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Beaudry Apr 8, 2015 7:09 AM

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Beaudry Apr 8, 2015 7:22 AM

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In case y'all haven't been hipped to what promises to be the Noirish book of the season, check out James Ellroy's latest: Ellroy, redoubtable demon-dog of American literature, has teamed up with LA's repository of law enforcement history to produce LAPD '53, and all the info is here. I personally guarantee a great shot of the Hildreth's carriage house, surrounded by cops!

To order an autographed copy, please click here.

MichaelRyerson Apr 8, 2015 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6981778)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7696/...485de5fe_o.jpg
In case y'all haven't been hipped to what promises to be the Noirish book of the season, check out James Ellroy's latest: Ellroy, redoubtable demon-dog of American literature, has teamed up with LA's repository of law enforcement history to produce LAPD '53, and all the info is here. I personally guarantee a great shot of the Hildreth's carriage house, surrounded by cops!

To order an autographed copy, please click here.

Ha. An autographed copy. Just what I want. Although a shot of the Hildreth carriage house would immediately make it worth the cover price. I find Ellroy wholly unreadable. My loss I'm sure. Thanks for the info on the red sandstone Courthouse remnants. Now if I can just find some lower-level county functionary who knows where some disposable remnants might be stacked.

Your post has set my heart a-yearning.

MichaelRyerson Apr 8, 2015 1:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6981122)
In case Beaudry takes a while, the remnants are in City Terrace Park. I only know this because JScott told me.

1079 N Hazard Ave, ELA:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...14015%2BPM.jpg
gsv

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...14551%2BPM.jpg
lots more pix at Richard Schave's flickr here.

Thanks Tovanger for the quick response.

GaylordWilshire Apr 8, 2015 2:35 PM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...ketbaldwin.jpgPasadena Digital History


As it turns out, the Market Basket we came across a couple of weeks ago was not, as the Denver Public Library labeled it, in Compton at all. It was 20 miles to the northeast in Baldwin Park. I sent the query to the experts at PERyHS, and, courtesy of the great Ralph Cantos and Craig Rasmussen, we now know that car 1221 is getting ready to depart the Baldwin Park PE station for Los Angeles. The Market Basket was listed in the 1947 BP CD at "105 E Ramona" (Groceteria lists it at 101)--there has been a renumbering since then, but this puts the Market Basket at the NE corner of Ramona Blvd and Maine Ave. where there is now a Bank of America. The post office at the extreme left of the expanded Denver Library view is apparently the one that was at 312 N Maine in 1947, which puts it right behind the Market Basket. As for the BoA...in 1947 it was diagonally across the intersection at 100 W Ramona Blvd in a building that appears to be one of the few vintage structures still standing. (Btw, an old brick PE substation also still stands near the junction of Ramona and Badillo.)

(According to Groceteria, the BP Market Basket was store #13; the Morris Garage seen at right in the larger Denver library view was at 137 East Ramona in the 1947 CD.)


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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6969208)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3...rketbasket.jpg


Full expandable view here:
http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm...id/77113/rec/1

I dug around a little--a Morris Garage--there is one at far right in the bigger picture--was listed at 601 E Compton...to the west of this address on a the corner today is an interesting Deco building, but it does not seem to correspond to the Market Basket... or maybe it was a block farther west, now an empty lot... or not on Compton Blvd at all. no Market Basket listings in Compton CDs in the '40s. There appears to be a post office at far left of big pic, but not enough detail to confirm that this is Compton. There is a "Pete's" filling station at the far right--also not in the 1946 Compton directory. To its left appears to be a possible street number--maybe 146 or 146. I think one of our foamers will have to sort this one out based on the PE car and the interurban routes.


The former Bank of America building, caddy-corner from its modern counterpart on the site of the Market Basket:

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April 2012 and August 2014 GSVs


The PE Vineland substation still standing near Ramona and Badillo:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV

Wig-Wag Apr 8, 2015 3:15 PM

Market Basket Baldwin Park
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6982004)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...ketbaldwin.jpgPasadena Digital History


As it turns out, the Market Basket we came across a couple of weeks ago was not, as the Denver Public Library labeled it, in Compton at all. It was 20 miles to the northeast in Baldwin Park. I sent the query to the experts at PERyHS, and, courtesy of the great Ralph Cantos and Craig Rasmussen, we now know that car 1221 is getting ready to depart the Baldwin Park PE station for Los Angeles. The Market Basket was listed in the 1947 BP CD at "105 E Ramona" (Groceteria lists it at 101)--there has been a renumbering since then, but this puts the Market Basket at the NE corner of Ramona Blvd and Maine Ave. where there is now a Bank of America. The post office at the extreme left of the expanded Denver Library view is apparently the one that was at 312 N Maine in 1947, which puts it right behind the Market Basket. As for the BoA...in 1947 it was diagonally across the intersection at 100 W Ramona Blvd in a building that appears to be one of the few vintage structures still standing. (Btw, an old brick PE substation also still stands near the junction of Ramona and Badillo.)

(According to Groceteria, the BP Market Basket was store #13; the Morris Garage seen at right in the larger Denver library view was at 137 East Ramona in the 1947 CD.)





The former Bank of America building, caddy-corner from its modern counterpart on the site of the Market Basket:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u...2520AM.bmp.jpg
April 2012 and August 2014 GSVs


The PE Vineland substation still standing near Ramona and Badillo:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV


Great work, GW!

Cheers,
Jack

MichaelRyerson Apr 8, 2015 3:33 PM

Cigars all around...
 
Blessed event in our house last week...


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7723/...4a7b53ce_b.jpgLittle bundle from heaven

Bruno looks on...


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8711/...efb54302_b.jpgBruno and two of the Mignonette sisters crowd around

The tension in the room is palpable...


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8776/...ff90df6c_o.jpgFully dilated


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8812/...d8aeb43f_b.jpgCritical moments...

Bruno eyes Prudent warily...


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8762/...59364d1f_b.jpgKissing cousins...

Prudent takes his first steps...


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8781/...d4935260_o.pngPrudent and his cousins Bruno and the Mignonette sisters

Sizing each other up...Prudent proves to be a big boy...


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7696/...fc28a076_o.pngPrudent at rest

The stone-cutter's art


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8793/...6fcd9f92_o.png1910 Baist Los Angeles Real Estate survey map, plate 5

Showing Bruno and Prudent in their entirety


Prudent came into our lives through the mid-wifery of Jack Wig Wag and we will be eternally grateful for his help and the generosity of his friend Gary.

tovangar2 Apr 8, 2015 3:50 PM

James Ellroy/old County Courthouse/Fragments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6981893)
I find Ellroy wholly unreadable.

You're not the only one. Too much like homework!

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I've read there was some discussion at the time of planning the then new courthouse regarding what should be valued and take pride of place. In "Adobe Days" Bixby Smith put it dryly,

"When the site was wanted by the men folk of the town, the school building was moved...and the hill itself decapitated."



Does anyone know why the Courthouse was so fragile? Was it the internal structure, the way the stone was fastened to the frame, the mortar or something else?

And who were the architects? Denver PL says Curlett, Eisen & Cuthbertson. Richard Schave lists Vawter & Eisen.

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MichaelRyerson's new fragment made me think of Chicago's Tribune Tower. Nice collection you've got :-)

Wig-Wag Apr 8, 2015 4:15 PM

Prudent Street Cobblestone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6982113)
Blessed event in our house last week...


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7723/...4a7b53ce_b.jpgLittle bundle from heaven

Bruno looks on...


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8711/...efb54302_b.jpgBruno and two of the Mignonette sisters crowd around

The tension in the room is palpable...


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8776/...ff90df6c_o.jpgFully dilated


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8812/...d8aeb43f_b.jpgCritical moments...

Bruno eyes Prudent warily...


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8762/...59364d1f_b.jpgKissing cousins...

Prudent takes his first steps...


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8781/...d4935260_o.pngPrudent and his cousins Bruno and the Mignonette sisters

Sizing each other up...Prudent proves to be a big boy...


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7696/...fc28a076_o.pngPrudent at rest

The stone-cutter's art


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8793/...6fcd9f92_o.png1910 Baist Los Angeles Real Estate survey map, plate 5

Showing Bruno and Prudent in their entirety


Prudent came into our lives through the mid-wifery of Jack Wig Wag and we will be eternally grateful for his help and the generosity of his friend Gary.

Very creative Michael! Nice to see Prudent back among her neighbors! Gary will love the photos. Also, thanks for the Map!

Cheers,
Jack

Hollywood Graham Apr 8, 2015 4:18 PM

Stone Cutter Blum
 
The stone cutter George Blum is the Blum of the famous Peach Ranch in Acton, Ca. Great Peaches.

tovangar2 Apr 8, 2015 5:06 PM

Blum's Peach Ranch, Acton, CA
 
:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 6982188)
The stone cutter George Blum is the Blum of the famous Peach Ranch in Acton, Ca. Great Peaches.

Thx for that info.

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blumranch.com

Blum Ranch History

LAT article on the Blum Ranch

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...12203%2BAM.jpg
George Blum, stonecutter and peach grower, and family. The oldest child, George Jr, is the fellow in the article Beaudry posted about the cornerstone for the new courthouse.
George, Jr's daughter Elizabeth and her husband run the ranch now.

photo: growing magazine


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