Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6820804)

In the past we've covered several round (and rotating) bars in the downtown Los Angeles area
..but recently I came across this.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/Xax0dR.png
https://www.flickr.com/photos/797613...ream/lightbox/

I was like, where the heck was this one?

well I finally found the other half, and it was located in Covina of all places!

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/797613...n/photostream/


I came across this comment concerning the 'rotabar'. It mentions a large roof-top sign showing a boy blowing a horn.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/61214504@N00/

As most of you know, I'm an aficionado of roof-top signs so I quickly began a quest for a photograph of the horn blowing boy sign.

And I've come up with.........ZILCH....NOTHING. :(

Anyone want to try their hand at finding this elusive sign for me?
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Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 6820280)

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5473abc2/t...24/550/550x309
(latimes.com)

The radio tower will be moved to its original location at Sunset Bronson Studios in Hollywood after structural retrofitting and renovation, according to KTLA-TV.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6820763)

I also found this slide last night. I believe it's from the same seller that posted the 1962 Vermont Avenue slide that we just discussed.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/cyExws.jpg
ebay
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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6820977)

Whoo-hoo, E_R!, that's the closest and only close-up photo I've seen of the direct front of the Coffee Dan's on Vine Street! (Dang that vehicle, though!)

Now can you find one of the front of Coffee Dan's on Hollywood Blvd. near Highland! :haha:

What year does anyone suppose the photo is from? It can't be 1962 as Capitol Records had moved by then. The cars look 1940's to me.

By the way, in other photos of this area from afar, I've tried to make out what the store is on the right of Coffee Dan's...and close-up I still can't read it! :shrug:

Thanks for finding this, E_R, I love it.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6820804)

In the past we've covered several round (and rotating) bars in the downtown Los Angeles area
..but recently I came across this.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/Xax0dR.png

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6820977)

I've tried to make out what the store is on the right of Coffee Dan's...and close-up I still can't read it! :shrug:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6821100)

Here's a token for the Dinnerhorn that I found on eBay.


http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...thWoodsInn.jpg
GSV

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6820930)

It will sure be odd not to see the KTLA tower looming over Hollywood in that location. The above says that the tower will be relocated to its original location on Bronson. Will it? I've become cynical when so many things of the past were announced to be relocated and were not, or other places, like some restaurants, were closing for remodeling, but never were.

This reminded me of the location right across the street (Van Ness Ave.) from KTLA that had a distinctive "icon" for many years. What I first knew as Metromedia Square/KTTV Channel 11 was located at 5746 Sunset Blvd. at Van Ness Ave.

This is an aerial showing Metromedia Square (outlined) in 1994.
To be honest, I didn't know it encompassed that large an area.
To the left of Metromedia across Van Ness is KTLA where the tower is located.
The triangle shaped area across the street to the north is a Denny's Restaurant.

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Cropped from a 1998 USGS DOQQ scan of "Hollywood NW"

The icon I am referring to is the art installation on the rooftop of the building, titled "Starsteps." You might recall this E_R.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...Metromedia.JPG
Mark Goodson

This was lit up and bright white at night and could not be missed traveling up the Hollywood Freeway at night. You would always know where the Sunset Blvd. exit was located without needing to read any signs.

What I did not know until recently was that this location started out as the Nassour Studios. They were built in 1946 and officially opened Jan. 1, 1947.

http://www.movielocationsplus.com/nassour2.jpgEdward Nassour

Nassour's son writes: My dad purchased the land on Sunset in the early forties. Originally, there were just the old, one story commercial structures and one of them was converted into a rather small shooting stage. My dad...had the old buildings demolished and went ahead with the new construction. A modern Art Deco-styled projection room and modern offices were located on the buildings fronting Sunset.

http://www.movielocationsplus.com/nassour3.jpgEdward Nassour

Dressing rooms were constructed adjacent to stages 1 and 2. An old converted two story apartment building located down the street on Van Ness housed producers and writers. Over 100 independent films were shot there while under my family's ownership, Orson Wells had offices at the studio as did Paul Henreid along with Pine-Thomas Productions.

http://www.movielocationsplus.com/nassour1.jpgEdward Nassour

Nassour Studios (1947–1950). In 1950 my dad sold the studio to Norman Chandler who owned The Los Angeles Times. He was looking for a facility to permanently house KTTV channel 11 and my dad's studio fit the bill perfectly. The sound stages had been built with television production in mind.

Times-Mirror Company owned it from 1950–1963 and was known as KTTV Studios from 1950-1967.
Metromedia owned it from 1963–2000. After a major renovation in 1967 it was known as Metromedia Square.
It was also known as Fox Television Center from 1986 –1996.

Many famous television series were filmed or taped at Metromedia such as Three's Company and almost all of Norman Lear's shows like All in the Family, Maude, Good Times and The Jeffersons. I saw several series taped here in the late 70's and early 80's. (I saw an All in the Family and I remember one called Apple Pie starring Rue McClanahan, Jack Gilford and Dabney Coleman.)

Metromedia sold the land to the Los Angeles Unified School District in 2000. The building was demolished by the school district in 2003.

Here's a photo, taken Saturday, April 19, 2003, to be exact, right before the studio was demolished, showing some of the ghost signage over the years.

http://www.movielocationsplus.com/nassour5.jpgEdward Nassour

Now, in the places where cultural touchstones like Walter and Maude argued, Archie and Edith disagreed, Jack, Janet and Chrissy invited us to knock on their door and the Jeffersons moved on up, students run track and play football and hopefully learn something at the Helen Bernstein High School, a campus which opened in 2008.

(You can see the KTLA tower at the southwest corner of Sunset and Van Ness, near that tall bluish-green building, which must be relatively new. The Denny's Restaurant is still there, too.)

http://www.perkinswill.com/files/pro...ial_main10.jpgHollywood Aerial Art Academy

It looks like the site's filming days are not over, though. An article about the school being used as a major filming site for Glee, HERE!

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 6820340)

The river in Burbank had more water in it in days past. My dad, who was born on another ranch in Burbank in 1913, learned to swim in the river.

Originally Posted by jg6544 (Post 6820626)

The suntanning fad is mostly a post-WWII thing. Women, in particular, were supposed to have pale white skin.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6821251)

:previous: Do you recommend Nightcrawler Arch2000? I heard the 'look' of the film is pretty impressive...very neo-noirish.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6821313)

It was certainly large enough during this rainy period in 1938.
#10
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/KfpKJa.jpgebay

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6821323)

As Pee Wee Marquette once said, "Ladies and gentlemen, as you know, we have something special down here at Birdland this evening." (OK, so he was talking about the New York jazz club and not this attraction in Los Angeles). This article is from the December 25, 1910 edition of the Los Angeles Herald.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...d.jpg~original
California Digital Newspaper Collection

Here's Aviary No.3.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ABirdland2.jpg
SDSU Library

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6821313)

It (and the Tujunga Wash) was certainly large enough during this rainy period in 1938. (photos are of the Burbank area...including Warner Bros. and Universal)

All photographs are from someone's personal notebook. I've never taken the time to post all these before. (I hope it isn't overkill)
I found them a couple years ago on ebay.
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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6821181)

My older brother liked Clearman's North Woods restaurants. Our family went there many times...usually a birthday dinner. If you want to talk to the person sitting next to you, this is not the place to go. The noise level is off the chart. But, if you want to ignore one of your in-laws....its perfect.

They have free peanuts on the table and you throw the shells on the floor...lovely barn ambiance. :P:P:P

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6821943)

CBS Columbia Square at 6121 Sunset Blvd.

I've been trying to read the various programs listed on the marquee above the front doors. The center one is Dolores something...and...well... it's a bit difficult isn't it.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6822225)

Well, it's almost time for me to leave for Illinois for Thanksgiving.
Before I go, I want to thank each and everyone of you for making this thread such a special place.


I'll leave you with these scenes from a Turkey Processing plant in Arcadia, circa 1952.


-the arrival
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http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/68436/rec/80



-the bath
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http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/68436/rec/80



group shower
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http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/68436/rec/80



almost there...
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http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/68436/rec/80



ta-dah!
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http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/68436/rec/80


Have a wonderful Holiday everyone! See you in a few days.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6821943)

I found this the other night with the rainy Vermont slide and the Capitol Records Vine St. slide.

At first I thought that was a Dept. of Forestry truck, now I'm thinking it might be a Ma Bell truck. (it comes down to whether that's a bell or a pine tree in the circular logo)
I never expected Bell telephone trucks to be GREEN!
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Originally Posted by DTLAdenizen (Post 6822354)

Curbed LA picked up my blog post on the first modern images of the endangered Warner Huntington Park Theatre.

Worth a look:
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2014/1...rk_theater.php



My original link:
http://southonspring.com/warner-huntington-park/

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http://southonspring.com/wp-content/.../2014/11/3.jpg

http://southonspring.com/wp-content/...ll-Housos-.jpg

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6822171)

DOLORES DRIVE-IN PRESENTS
"____ ____ HERE TONITE" 12:05 AM

(second word might be Horne?)

Third section:

__ PRESENTS "FAMILY FUN"
___ JAY STEWART __:__ PM

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6821943)

I found this the other night with the rainy Vermont slide and the Capitol Records Vine St. slide.

I've been trying to read the various programs listed on the marquee above the front doors. The center one is Dolores something...and...well... it's a bit difficult isn't it.

Any help would be appreciated.

CBS Columbia Square at 6121 Sunset Blvd.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/snAhET.jpg
ebay

At first I thought that was a Dept. of Forestry truck, now I'm thinking it might be a Ma Bell truck. (it comes down to whether that's a bell or a pine tree in the circular logo)
I never expected Bell telephone trucks to be GREEN!
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Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 6818347)

To a French ear like mine, this accent sounds British. But not quite : it sounds like an american who imitates awkwardly British. The diphtongs are not as much marked. And yes, fhammon, this is annoying. Some 1930s/1940s american actors had a little touch of British accent to my ears (Fred Astaire for instance, mainly when he sings).

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6822889)

It usually wasn't a conscious attempt to adopt a UK accent, but more likely based on what was then a typical old-money accent in the Northeast (for instance FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt, who really did speak in that accent). This is what I hear in old movies like The Philadelphia Story, [i]Bringing Up Baby (not Grant, but Hepburn's character, along with her relatives), and so on. The Roosevelts and Katharine Hepburn really did talk like that, it was their natural accent. In the case of many who emulated them, however, there probably was an element of Anglophilia involved somewhere.

For some reason the narrators of documentaries and travelogues during this period seem to have taken as a foundation that Northeastern upper-class accent--whether they possessed it or not-- and then added a layer of Kansas-rural-midwestern; I really cannot account for it any other way. James A. Fitzpatrick, perhaps the best known narrator from this era, grew up in Connecticut but sounds as rural as a Kansan wheat farmer. Gayne Whitman was from Chicago but I hear no trace of what today I would consider a typical upper Midwestern accent.

Still another factor may have been the perception of actors and directors that given the limitations of early sound equipment they had to enunciate a certain way...like the woman said...ROUND tones. ROUND tones...

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6822889)

It usually wasn't a conscious attempt to adopt a UK accent, but more likely based on what was then a typical old-money accent in the Northeast (for instance FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt, who really did speak in that accent). This is what I hear in old movies like The Philadelphia Story, [i]Bringing Up Baby (not Grant, but Hepburn's character, along with her relatives), and so on. The Roosevelts and Katharine Hepburn really did talk like that, it was their natural accent. In the case of many who emulated them, however, there probably was an element of Anglophilia involved somewhere.

For some reason the narrators of documentaries and travelogues during this period seem to have taken as a foundation that Northeastern upper-class accent--whether they possessed it or not-- and then added a layer of Kansas-rural-midwestern; I really cannot account for it any other way. James A. Fitzpatrick, perhaps the best known narrator from this era, grew up in Connecticut but sounds as rural as a Kansan wheat farmer. Gayne Whitman was from Chicago but I hear no trace of what today I would consider a typical upper Midwestern accent.

Still another factor may have been the perception of actors and directors that given the limitations of early sound equipment they had to enunciate a certain way...like the woman said...ROUND tones. ROUND tones...

Originally Posted by latimes.com

Venerable Los Angeles Athletic Club aims for more youthful look
Los Angeles Athletic Club
By Roger Vincent

On a recent weekday afternoon, one of the newest members of the Los Angeles Athletic Club sat in a high-backed chair in the club's plush Olympic Lounge. With its thick carpet, dark mahogany-paneled walls and heavy curtains, the room looked every bit the bastion of gentility it was built to be more than a century ago.

But instead of a tweed jacket, Dimitri Beshkov was wearing a snug black T-shirt and he was tapping away on a laptop he had pulled out of a backpack — all faux pas at traditional clubs that enforce dress codes and forbid members from doing anything that looks like work in their hushed communal lounges and dining rooms.

"A lot of clubs don't allow business use" of their facilities, General Manager Steve Hathaway said. "We encourage it."
All clubs need to do whatever they can to bring in younger members. The clubs that are really successful are really trying to bring down their average age. - Crystal Thomas, executive director of the California State Club Assn.

The venerable institution with a storied past and blue-blood roots is spending millions of dollars to make itself appealing to a new generation of more laid-back downtown denizens.

The move reflects an acknowledgment that intense real estate development in recent years has changed the face of downtown by bringing in thousands of new residents, many of whom are young entrepreneurs accustomed to working wherever they may be.

"We are trying to create the feeling that this is almost an extension of the office or loft or condo," Hathaway said.

The club will spend about $10 million on improvements meant to update the facilities and appeal to members' changing tastes. Pilates, spinning, yoga and open NBA-style locker rooms are in. Racquetball, which swept the country in the 1970s, is losing popularity to the older racquet sport of squash.

Youth will be served, as the old proverb goes, if private clubs hope to thrive in the digital age.

The days "when men left for the club and stayed out late" are gone, said Crystal Thomas, executive director of the California State Club Assn. Aging membership rolls are a threat to many clubs' survival.

"All clubs need to do whatever they can to bring in younger members," she said. "The clubs that are really successful are really trying to bring down their average age."

Fortunately for Hathaway, whose family has operated the Athletic Club for generations, the neighborhood around his building is on a major growth spurt. Obsolete office buildings from the early 20th century have been converted to apartments, and thousands of new housing units are being built.

It's quite a turnaround for the area outside the club's doors. When the building was erected in 1912 at 7th and Olive streets, the location was considered a proper address by the city's elite citizens.

The Times wrote about the club's opening gala in June of that year: "In a gorgeous spectacle with the very social elect of Los Angeles arrayed in almost barbaric splendor the new clubhouse was formally thrown open. The miracle of mixing athletics with society was accomplished."

But by the 1980s, the club stood beyond the boundaries of downtown's upscale office district and the streets outside were unsavory to the well-dressed men and women in the glass office towers.

Now the neighborhood is coming back. Seventh Street is home to some of downtown's top restaurants. and once-vacant office buildings nearby are filled with residents who pay substantial rent. Most are younger than 40.

"We need to focus on the needs of this group of people becoming the core of our membership," Hathaway said.

The makeover is being done in phases, with the focus now on the fifth and sixth floors, where many of the key athletic facilities are found.

As designed by prominent Los Angeles architect John Parkinson, the club was the first structure in Southern California to have a swimming pool above ground level. The sixth-floor "plunge," as the pool has always been called, was built like the hull of a ship and is held in place with steel plates fastened together by rivets.

But there was no women's locker room when the club opened because membership was limited to men. The 1960s addition of women's changing facilities took up space on the pool deck where there was once a restaurant.

"There were waiters in white jackets serving food on white tablecloths around the pool," said architect Brian Kite of SRK Architects, who is designing the makeover.

New side-by-side locker rooms will be built for men and women on the fifth floor, and the Plunge Cafe will be re-created by the pool. Renovations will include new shops, including a barbershop and nail salon. A new grand stairway will connect the fifth and sixth floors

One of the biggest structural challenges is cutting holes in the fifth floor to make room for new whirlpool baths in the locker rooms. There will also be a cold plunge pool and a spa facility that will include a European-style therapeutic salt suite environment meant to ease members' respiratory conditions.

The Los Angeles Athletic Club dates from 1880 and has had members with such prominent last names as Lankershim, Chandler, Dockweiler, Doheny, O'Melveny and Slauson. Movie stars such as Mark Pickford, Rudolph Valentino, Charlie Chaplin and Johnny Weissmuller once congregated at the club.

But its future is apparently is in the hands of young members like Beshkov, who said he was studying for law school entrance exams in the Olympic Lounge.

"This is like a second home," he said. "I play, study and meet up with friends. I'd say my membership is 51% social and 49% athletic."

One longtime member, 91-year-old developer Jerry Epstein, said he approves of the changes and relishes holding meetings in the Athletic Club's subdued dining areas.

"When you are in a club" instead of a restaurant, he said, "you don't have to scream at each other."

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6824938)

The once trendy Sky Room. Burbank Airport, 1940. Below we have dining al fresco on the tarmac...enjoy prop-wash, the roar of the engines and a lovely salad.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psd5cb2b8f.jpg

Restaurant history

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 6822910)

Not to mention almost the entire cast of The Wzard of OZ. Billie Burke - an American actress (spent time in England), Jack Haley, Ray Bolger (it's the real reason Buddy Ebsen didn't get the gig ;)), Frank Morgan.... they all copped that "Transatlantic" stage-speak affectation. I do believe is was practically if not definitely required... and that's what I find a little endearing but a little more annoying about it. It seemed to be really important not to portray people as common even if they were just scarecrows, tin men or charlatans, except for Bert Lahr's NY accent. I suppose that was part of the escapism of the times. Once you spoke that way in a film - typecast, you were probably stuck with it for the rest of your career. If you listen you can hear traces of it right into the early sixties and beyond. It's a wonder how many good actors from that period avoided it. As you said though for Katharine Hepburn it was almost her trademark but still an accepted New England upper-class affectation. The other Connecticut Yankees don't sound anything like that.

Check out this Billie Burke rant. The accent fits the character:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqv9eReYfm8

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6826155)

I found a few pictures on eBay from around the harbor area, so I thought I'd post them together.


Across the water and slightly north was this Mobilgas station in San Pedro. The Hotel Fern was at 230 W 7th Street. The gas station and hotel have since been replaced by the Crowne Plaza Los Angeles Harbor Hotel.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AHotelFern.jpg
eBay