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summersm343 Mar 13, 2014 12:04 AM

PHILADELPHIA | River Walk | Two Towers | 363 FT & 315 FT | 32 FLOORS & 28 FLOORS
 
Title: River Walk
Project: Residential, commercial, retail
Architect: Gensler Associates
Developer: PMC Property Group
Location: 23rd & Arch St. Philadelphia, PA
Neighborhood: Logan Square
District: Center City
Floors: 32 & 28 floors
Height: 363 and 315 feet

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...49&oe=5A5B0A4B

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https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...47&oe=5A5C5E83

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https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...cc&oe=5A542A8C

http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...on_reduced.pdf

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The River Walk Project is an urban re-development that is planned to complement the City’s growth and revitalization along the Schuykill River in downtown Philadelphia. The project encompasses over 8.5 acres which will include residential, commercial, retail, hospitality and other community amenities serving the Logan Square neighborhood and surrounding areas.
http://www.np-international.com/sele...ork/mixed-use/

Plokoon11 Mar 13, 2014 12:16 AM

This one looks probably 500-525 feet to me.

summersm343 Mar 13, 2014 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Plokoon11 (Post 6491340)
This one looks probably 500-525 feet to me.

Yeah probably about 500 feet.

shakman Mar 13, 2014 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 6491347)
Yeah probably about 500 feet.

This looks to me in the 400 ft - 450 ft range.

PHL10 Mar 13, 2014 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shakman (Post 6492431)
This looks to me in the 400 ft - 450 ft range.

Agreed. I was thinking 425 ft.

summersm343 Mar 13, 2014 5:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shakman (Post 6492431)
This looks to me in the 400 ft - 450 ft range.

The PECO Building (right next to this) is 384 feet. The Murano (curved glass tower) is 475 feet. This tower looks to be similar in height to that. So I'm guessing 425-475 feet. Somewhere in that range.

mmikeyphilly Mar 13, 2014 5:23 PM

Exciting! :cheers: All of these new developments in just a few days. I hope this happens, but I remember River City too..? Remember that pie in the sky idea?
This looks decent. It will certainly give life to an area that definitely is dead after dark. Does this project have all of its ducks in a row? ie. Financing, City Council appoval, etc.? I'd like to see something happen at that end of center city. I really would. But I thought Murano was having difficulty getting it filled? (At least in the beginning.) Maybe this will be the shot in the arm, along with the new Comcast Building, FMC, etc. ~ the city's hot right now:hell:! Developers are going to take advantage of Comcast, FMC,etc. now, and that's a good thing.

theWatusi Mar 13, 2014 5:25 PM

The Logan Square neighborhood association is going to shit a lot of bricks over this.

The shadows!!!

summersm343 Mar 13, 2014 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mmikeyphilly (Post 6492476)
Exciting! :cheers: All of these new developments in just a few days. I hope this happens, but I remember River City too..? Remember that pie in the sky idea?
This looks decent. It will certainly give life to an area that definitely is dead after dark. Does this project have all of its ducks in a row? ie. Financing, City Council appoval, etc.? I'd like to see something happen at that end of center city. I really would. But I thought Murano was having difficulty getting it filled? (At least in the beginning.) Maybe this will be the shot in the arm, along with the new Comcast Building, FMC, etc. ~ the city's hot right now:hell:! Developers are going to take advantage of Comcast, FMC,etc. now, and that's a good thing.

This is a completely different developer than the one who proposed the River City monstrosity. This developer bought this land a couple of years back.

Last I heard, Murano was full. Most condo buildings in Philly are as of now, which is why there have been several new proposals for condo buildings in the past few months.

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Originally Posted by theWatusi (Post 6492484)
The Logan Square neighborhood association is going to shit a lot of bricks over this.

The shadows!!!

They are currently talking with LSNA. They have been for a few months. LSNA actually SUGGESTED to them making the tower that fronts JFK taller. :yes:

The developer still has to go through ZBA and Planning Commission. As far as I know, there is no financing for the development yet.

Busy Bee Mar 13, 2014 6:35 PM

Gorgeous!

mPhilly Mar 15, 2014 2:28 PM

This would be a game changer for CC West. SO much more foot traffic on Market with this thing sitting on JFK. That said, I hope they change the facade of the smaller towers. Looks very 60's to me.

mmikeyphilly Mar 15, 2014 5:18 PM

http://www.np-international.com/sele...ork/mixed-use/[/QUOTE]

After checking the developer's website, it appears to me that this particular project is their "feather in the cap". Let's hope that they can pull it all together, and get this off the ground. (Since this is the biggest project in their portfolio.)
With NP International having corporate headquarters in Minnesota, and Costa Rica, they may want to consider setting up corporate offices in Philly, as well.
It would benefit them to have their people here, since this is going to be a very ambitious project for them. (Philadelphia will certainly have the room for them to set up their offices in one of the towers they're developing!)
Let's hope that this is the beginning of a truly valuable friendship!

summersm343 Apr 16, 2014 2:21 AM

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River Walk at 23rd & Arch - The developer will meet with the committee of near neighbors on April 22 to bring them up to date with respect to refinements in their plans for this project. They would like to be in a position to make a RCO presentation to LSNA as early our May Board meeting. They have agreed to enter into a NDA with LSNA.
https://docs.google.com/a/lsnaphilly...jg5N2Q3YWVjNDg

mPhilly Apr 25, 2014 12:03 AM

Looking at this more I'm confused how they are going to get the foot traffic over there with the SEPTA tracks cutting right through. Would be awesome to get some connection over that and maybe one over the CSX line to the trail too.

BuildItBigger Apr 25, 2014 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mPhilly (Post 6552584)
Looking at this more I'm confused how they are going to get the foot traffic over there with the SEPTA tracks cutting right through. Would be awesome to get some connection over that and maybe one over the CSX line to the trail too.

There is a pathway that leads under the tracks down to the river.
A simple enhancement or build of that pathway or steps will connect it.

ichigo Apr 25, 2014 6:09 PM

How serious are they about building this? Or is it too early to say?

summersm343 Apr 25, 2014 7:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ichigo (Post 6553561)
How serious are they about building this? Or is it too early to say?

I'd say 50/50 at this point. Could swing either way. This is a difficult site and the developer doesn't have THAT much experience. Still REALLY early though. This project is still probably a year or two out before anything serious gets going. I guess it's really a matter of if they can get funding or not.

wondertwinalpha May 12, 2014 3:14 PM

This project is being presented by NP International to the LSNA on Tuesday, May 13th. They will need zoning variances from the city, and they are requesting a letter on non-opposition from LSNA. There is one new rendering from the NP International site. Hopefully we will know more soon.


https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5034/...6f51df15_c.jpg

http://www.np-international.com/sele...ork/mixed-use/

summersm343 May 12, 2014 5:45 PM

Love the new rendering. It looks truly f**king fantastic! The only issue I have with the project is the way the JFK tower fronts JFK. Wish they could build a base for the tower that goes the entire way from 23rd to the train tracks, not a narrow base with grass around it. :shrug:

Londonee May 12, 2014 6:10 PM

Anyone know the developer? Is this is a legitimate development? The developer's website lacks anything remotely to this scale and most of their "selected" work is of the low to mid-rise variety. They certainly do not appear to be a power player with the track record to pull off something of this massive scope...

A little nervous that this, as that absurd River City proposal, is more bait and flip than shovels in the ground. Anyone know more?


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