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GaylordWilshire Aug 31, 2018 10:39 PM

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415 Avondale today

https://s22.postimg.cc/g76kkfp4h/415avondale.bmp.jpg


And, of course, Nancy Olson, who turned 90 last month, was also Betty Schaefer in that noir classic, Sunset Blvd...

https://s22.postimg.cc/b8j25yirl/nancysunset.jpg

I wonder if she went ahead and married Artie...

ethereal_reality Aug 31, 2018 10:43 PM

You're correct of course GW. I didn't realize, until a half hour ago, that Nancy Olson was nominated for 'Best Supporting Actress' for Sunset Blvd.

GaylordWilshire Aug 31, 2018 11:00 PM

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Do you suppose the old shotgun street sign seen behind the boys, presumably at the swc of Avondale and Evanston St, could be the same one there today? (They are getting increasingly rare...the shotguns....)


https://s22.postimg.cc/coukoitip/avondale2.jpg

https://s22.postimg.cc/yo0zbnxhd/avondale1.bmp.jpg

ethereal_reality Aug 31, 2018 11:10 PM

This is from the same garden party. Does anyone know who this lady in green is?

the caption was cut off. (not by me)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/E1gOjH.jpg
meetthebeatlesforreal

I mean, look at Paul McCartney's face. >
He looks scared to death. lol

found HERE

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Noir_Noir Aug 31, 2018 11:34 PM

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Here's a short video with some clips from the event. The late singer-songwriter Andrew Gold, who was thirteen at the time, revisits the house and remembers his encounter with the Fab Four.


Video Link



Groucho to the reporter, "What do you want?" :D

odinthor Sep 1, 2018 4:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8300539)
[...]
The party was held at Nancy Olson's mother's home at 415 Avondale Avenue.
When Nancy asked her Mom if she could use her garden...her Mother said "I would love to host them and as she walked into her garden
she said, “I have the perfect spot to put four stools, one for each of the boys. We will put them under the Deadora tree.” (Deadora tree? calling odinthor!)
[...]

e_r, I think Deadora is a rather grim misspelling of the Deodara tree, the often pretty Cedrus deodara evergreen/fir with all its droppy needles. It sounds rather portentous to declare that We will put them under the Deadora tree...

ethereal_reality Sep 1, 2018 1:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8300797)
We will put them under the Deadora tree...

Thanks for the correction odinthor.

I might have noticed the mistake but I just thought it was pronounced Dee-AH-dora

....not Dead Dora.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...921/aoiI1Y.jpg
brendadowling

ethereal_reality Sep 1, 2018 1:35 PM

Since we have been discussing Manchester Place in Inglewood, thanks to FW, I thought you all might like to see this map I found in an old file of mine.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/Ge1yE1.jpg




specific area showing Manchester Place.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/BBhFbq.jpg
detail

I hadn't noticed the unique street plan on the right...the one with a triangle and circle at the tip.
I wonder what the story is behind that idea.
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Have a great holiday weekend everyone! :)

GaylordWilshire Sep 1, 2018 7:55 PM

Sunset Blvd premiered in NY on August 10, 1950; Nancy Olson had married Alan Jay Lerner in March. (She was the third of his eight wives...the man had talent and energy to spare.) Hadn't read before that she was involved in the crash landing of a TWA Constellation at Long Beach airport, in good Hollywood company.


From the Times, Nov 19, 1950

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(An original of pic right above)
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TWA Seniors Club


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Back then, and into the '80s, planes crashed all the time. An incident at LAX on November 25, 1948, involved another TWA Constellation, this one arriving from Washington, Kansas City, Albuquerque, and Phoenix--no movie people on that one. All got out before fire destroyed the plane.... The only interesting thing in the Times report the next day was that "...a man raised a lament about his new handbag burning." (For some reason, Christine Jorgenson came to mind, but too early for her I guess.)

https://s22.postimg.cc/to4g6axe9/twa481.bmp.jpghttps://s22.postimg.cc/jqtfdan8h/twa482.jpg
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Tourmaline Sep 1, 2018 9:28 PM

:previous: Not so lucky.


Heavy laden Connie meets North Hollywood in '62.

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All the king's horses and all the king's men, try to put Connie together again.


Flight data recording did not become common place until the early '60s. Aircraft were still reassembled for forensic analysis.


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" December 18, 1962 reads, 'Workers sift through wreckage of plane, buildings for clue to crash that claimed eight lives.'"

12000 block of Vose St., North Hollywood

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Barstowboy Sep 2, 2018 12:33 AM

https://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.a...ev_id=34&key=0

National Transportation Safety Board website. There was a December 6, 1962 non-fatal crash at LAX.


NTSB Identification: LAX62A0131
14 CFR Part 121 Scheduled operation of FLYING TIGER LINES INC
Aircraft: LOCKHEED 1049H, registration: N6913C
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FILE DATE LOCATION AIRCRAFT DATA INJURIES FLIGHT PILOT DATA
F S M/N PURPOSE
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1-0035 62/12/14 NO.HOLLYWOOD,CAL LOCKHEED 1049H CR- 3 0 0 SCHED DOM CARGO SRV AIRLINE TRANSPORT, AGE
TIME - 2212 N6913C PX- 2 0 0 38, 14164 TOTAL HOURS,
DAMAGE-DESTROYED OT- 0 0 0 5100 IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
RATED.
NAME OF AIRPORT - LOCKHEED AIR TERM
OPERATOR - FLYING TIGER LINE,INC.
DEPARTURE POINT INTENDED DESTINATION LAST ENROUTE STOP
BOSTON,MASS BURBANK,CALIF CHICAGO,ILL
TYPE OF ACCIDENT PHASE OF OPERATION
COLLISION WITH GROUND/WATER: UNCONTROLLED LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
PILOT IN COMMAND - INCAPACITATION
MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - PILOT SUFFERED HEART ATTACK
FACTOR(S)
WEATHER - LOW CEILING
WEATHER - FOG
WEATHER BRIEFING - BRIEFED BY FLIGHT SERVICE PERSONNEL, BY RADIO
WEATHER FORECAST - FORECAST SUBSTANTIALLY CORRECT
SKY CONDITION CEILING AT ACCIDENT SITE
OBSCURATION UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED
VISIBILITY AT ACCIDENT SITE PRECIPITATION AT ACCIDENT SITE
1/2 MILE OR LESS NONE
OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISION AT ACCIDENT SITE TYPE OF WEATHER CONDITIONS
FOG IFR
TYPE OF FLIGHT PLAN
IFR
FIRE AFTER IMPACT
REMARKS- INCAPACITATION OF PLT IN COMD AT CRITICAL PT IN APCH.RESULT,LOSS OF CTL,CO-PLT UNABLE TO RECOVER.
Full narrative is not available

Isn't it amazing what's out there on the Internet?

Handsome Stranger Sep 2, 2018 1:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8300900)
Since we have been discussing Manchester Place in Inglewood, thanks to FW, I thought you all might like to see this map I found in an old file of mine.

Very interesting! Do you happen to know the year this map was published? I see that Los Angeles Airport is still Municipal. When did it become International? I also see some streets in Manhattan Beach that did not exist until after the end of World War II.

GaylordWilshire Sep 2, 2018 11:55 AM

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https://s22.postimg.cc/mz2yngnjl/lax...e10449.bmp.jpg
LAT Oct 4, 1949



Before the big LAX letters, there was this sign...

https://s22.postimg.cc/cdj3bgh81/laxoldsign.jpg



Paul Drake picks up or drops off someone...presumably Perry...in his '58 Thunderbird in "The Case of the Treacherous Toupée"...

https://s22.postimg.cc/85swg9pox/LAXperrymason.jpg



From post 43845

"...that old airport sign reminds me of a scene-setting shot seen from time to time in Perry Mason episodes...in which it would be referred to as "International Airport"--no article "the" ("Della is picking us up at International Airport")"

Which reminds me of the frequently asked question, "Why are LA freeways now referred to as 'the 10' etc," whereas elsewhere a highway isn't "the" 66, say, but just 66...presumably it's because "the 10" supplanted "the Santa Monica" etc etc...but I digress....

Tourmaline Sep 2, 2018 4:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8301453)
Which reminds me of the frequently asked question, "Why are LA freeways now referred to as 'the 10' etc," whereas elsewhere a highway isn't "the" 66, say, but just 66...presumably it's because "the 10" supplanted "the Santa Monica" etc etc...but I digress....

Maybe for reasons similar to explain why people from different geographic locales favor certain accents and pronunciations. :shrug: One imagines that news and media coverage strongly influences how thoroughfares are shorthanded or nicknamed. (Picture Francis Powers, Kelly Lang, Lori Ross or Bill Keene giving live traffic reports.)
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The Big Cheese tells me the southbound 605 is backed up all the way to the Foothill.
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Between its west terminus in Santa Monica, California, and the major East Los Angeles Interchange, I-10 is known as the Santa Monica Freeway. The Santa Monica Freeway is also called the Rosa Parks Freeway for the segment beginning at I-405 (the San Diego Freeway), and ending at I-110/SR 110 (the Harbor Freeway). The segment between the East Los Angeles Interchange and the city of San Bernardino, 63 miles (101 km) long, is called the San Bernardino Freeway. Other names exist for I-10. For example, a sign near the western terminus of the highway in Santa Monica proclaims this highway the Christopher Columbus Transcontinental Highway.
The San Bernardino Freeway in California near the interchange with the Ontario Freeway (I-15)

I-10 is known to a considerably lesser degree as the Veterans Memorial Highway, and it is listed as a Blue Star Memorial Highway. In Palm Springs, I-10 is also named the Sonny Bono Memorial Freeway as a tribute to the late entertainer who served both as the mayor and as a U.S. Congressman. Another stretch a short distance east in Indio is proclaimed the Doctor June McCarroll Memorial Freeway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_10

odinthor Sep 2, 2018 4:51 PM

[In re: Use of "the" in referring to freeways.]

Not sure of the usage's origins; but I find it confusing when the "the" is omitted.

Here's a shouted conversation I had once upon a time when stop-and-go traffic on the Santa Ana Freeway was in "stop" mode.

Neighboring automobilists from another planet area: "Hey, can you tell us where is 2?"

Me (oblivious as to their meaning): Two what?

Neighbors: No. 2! 2!

Me (blankly): ? Two what?

At which point they gave up and rolled up their window.

Half an hour later, it dawned on me what they meant.

CityBoyDoug Sep 2, 2018 6:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8301578)
[In re: Use of "the" in referring to freeways.]

Not sure of the usage's origins; but I find it confusing when the "the" is omitted.

Here's a shouted conversation I had once upon a time when stop-and-go traffic on the Santa Ana Freeway was in "stop" mode.

Neighboring automobilists from another planet area: "Hey, can you tell us where is 2?"

Me (oblivious as to their meaning): Two what?

Neighbors: No. 2! 2!

Me (blankly): ? Two what?

At which point they gave up and rolled up their window.

Half an hour later, it dawned on me what they meant.

LA freeways are not user friendly if you're new to LA If you're driving 70 MPH and don't know exactly the turnoff.....you could end up many miles from your destination.
The solution is the GPS program installed.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 2, 2018 9:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8301578)
[In re: Use of "the" in referring to freeways.]

Not sure of the usage's origins; but I find it confusing when the "the" is omitted.

Here's a shouted conversation I had once upon a time when stop-and-go traffic on the Santa Ana Freeway was in "stop" mode.

Neighboring automobilists from another planet area: "Hey, can you tell us where is 2?"

Me (oblivious as to their meaning): Two what?

Neighbors: No. 2! 2!

Me (blankly): ? Two what?

At which point they gave up and rolled up their window.

Half an hour later, it dawned on me what they meant.

Using names doesn't work, since the same numbered freeway will have different names depending on what segment(the 5 is the Golden State and Santa Ana) and some named freeways have different numbers depending on the segment(Ventura Freeway is bot the 101 and 134).

Handsome Stranger Sep 2, 2018 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8301736)
Using names doesn't work, since the same numbered freeway will have different names depending on what segment...

To say nothing of names of memorial highways and memorial interchanges.

Beaudry Sep 3, 2018 12:11 AM

I think the freeway issue was best summed up in this bit from 30 Rock.

Flyingwedge Sep 3, 2018 2:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8301578)
[In re: Use of "the" in referring to freeways.]

Not sure of the usage's origins; but I find it confusing when the "the" is omitted.

Nathan Masters discusses the "the" here. His post includes a 1939 map that has some of the same roads that are on e_r's map,
like the Arroyo Seco Parkway connecting to the Inglewood Parkway.


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