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montréaliste Mar 18, 2020 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 8865805)
?? The Second World War kickstarted the modern economy we know today

Of course, but you can say that of many crises. That is my point.

Centropolis Mar 18, 2020 3:18 PM

i think my company is about to have a second round of layoffs. they are asking for our weekly billable hours on TUESDAY now.

for reference my office only had one layoff during the entirety of the much slower burn financial crisis and two have already been cut (although this was likely related to oil prices).

as i've been saying i'm anticipating a depression.

JManc Mar 18, 2020 3:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8865718)
Unemployed for a year with permanently impaired career prospects. Or small business owners who are bankrupted and lose businesses they have spent their adult lives building. Chefs and restaurateurs, especially, many of whom will never get back on their feet again. For what, to buy some unhealthy person in their 70s or 80s another couple of years?

That would be our parents, grandparents, in-laws, aunts and uncles and so on. Apparently, the world seems to think their elders are worth risking derailing the world economy over. These aren't faceless old people. My father is a 74 year-old Type 1 who can otherwise live another 10-15 years if he takes care of himself. I'm willing to endure some financial volatility in the short term if it means I can have him around a little longer. My wife certainly feels the same about her mother who had heart surgery a few years ago.

sopas ej Mar 18, 2020 3:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8865647)
The harm to the children is greater. 7 million children in CA will lose 6 months of critical schooling.

More like 2.5-3 months. Most kids don't go to school during the summer months.

My concern for these kids in terms of their learning, are the ones who don't have high-speed internet (or even any kind of internet) access to be able to live-stream video, or even just watch a video online; like the difference between the kids who attend Compton Unified vs. Santa Monica-Malibu Unified. Supposedly, kids will be able to learn from home from their teachers via the internet, but again, some kids have it better than others.

iheartthed Mar 18, 2020 3:24 PM

What part about overwhelming the healthcare system do people not get? If you have a child, you should be freaked the fuck out about that possibility. If your kid chokes on a piece of hot dog while all of the doctors are trying to manage a coronavirus outbreak... well, good luck.

chris08876 Mar 18, 2020 3:25 PM

My job pretty much told me today that going forward, only working from home. And to only visit clients if absolutely necessary. We'll be using a lot more of video conference calls as opposed to in-person visits.

Centropolis Mar 18, 2020 3:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8865855)
My job pretty much told me today that going forward, only working from home. And to only visit clients if absolutely necessary. We'll be using a lot more of video conference calls as opposed to in-person visits.

we were ordered to work from home in north america starting tuesday. i still have a lot of site visits (to vacant industrial facilities, superfund sites, etc) so for now my schedule isn't super impacted but by mid april im anticipating a massive slump in workload as clients massively pull back budgets and i lose site access.

montréaliste Mar 18, 2020 3:27 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 8865851)
What part about overwhelming the healthcare system do people not get? If you have a child, you should be freaked the fuck out about that possibility. If your kid chokes on a piece of hot dog while all of the doctors are trying to manage a coronavirus outbreak... well, good luck.

Period.

sopas ej Mar 18, 2020 3:29 PM

Skim reading through this thread, it's funny to see who handles change better and who doesn't.

Nothing lasts forever; I think people get used to a routine and think it's gonna be permanent, like being able to go to the gym, being able to eat out, being able to buy toilet paper, a good economy, being "the number 1 country in the world..."

I don't doubt that some of you are going through the similar stages that you go through in grief (Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance). This happens with any kind of big life change that is beyond your control; I know I went through it when I broke up with my first bf; and then when I experienced my very first job layoff.

Everything you hold dear can be taken away from you in a split second. Health is even an obvious one. Just because you're healthy, doesn't mean you'll always be healthy; and just because you get sick, doesn't mean you'll always be sick.

Again, nothing lasts forever, even a crisis. We'll get through this, people. :)

montréaliste Mar 18, 2020 3:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8865845)
More like 2.5-3 months. Most kids don't go to school during the summer months.

My concern for these kids in terms of their learning, are the ones who don't have high-speed internet (or even any kind of internet) access to be able to live-stream video, or even just watch a video online; like the difference between the kids who attend Compton Unified vs. Santa Monica-Malibu Unified. Supposedly, kids will be able to learn from home from their teachers via the internet, but again, some kids have it better than others.

France already has started producing programs for revising studies for many grades. The country is in total lockdown. Just be creative, this is still better than a World War. Just hunker down.

subterranean Mar 18, 2020 3:30 PM

I have so far absolutely loved working from home. It's just sad that it took a global pandemic for my employer to make this happen.

My child is in a small in-home daycare very close to home with 2 other part-time kids.

No commuting or fossil fuels, more family time and sleep. More efficient work. No need for headphones or dress shirts. Easy access to the comforts of home. I can walk my dog. It's gonna be VERY hard to go back to normal work life after this quarantine.

montréaliste Mar 18, 2020 3:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8865862)
Skim reading through this thread, it's funny to see who handles change better and who doesn't.

Nothing lasts forever; I think people get used to a routine and think it's gonna be permanent, like being able to go to the gym, being able to eat out, being able to buy toilet paper...

I don't doubt that some of you are going through the similar stages that you go through in grief (Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance). This happens with any kind of big life change that is beyond your control; I know I went through it when I broke up with my first bf; and then when I experienced my very first job layoff.

Everything you hold dear can be taken away from you in a split second. Health is even an obvious one. Just because you're healthy, doesn't mean you'll always be healthy; and just because you get sick, doesn't mean you'll always be sick.

Again, nothing lasts forever, even a crisis. We'll get through this, people. :)

Exactly.


I am more worried about all the man-made bullshit, the economic disparities, the unaddressed issues of pollution, consumerism and wars than this, if all is taken in a spirit of solidarity.

montréaliste Mar 18, 2020 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by subterranean (Post 8865867)
I have so far absolutely loved working from home. It's just sad that it took a global pandemic for my employer to make this happen.

My child is in a small in-home daycare very close to home with 2 other part-time kids.

No commuting or fossil fuels, more family time and sleep. More efficient work. No need for headphones or dress shirts. Easy access to the comforts of home. I can walk my dog. It's gonna be VERY hard to go back to normal work life after this quarantine.


Yes.

I have been working form home, retiring prematurely from work in Film production, a very wasteful industry in order to work exclusively on my painting. I have never been more fulfilled.

mrnyc Mar 18, 2020 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8865632)
The U.S. is generating a different sort of catastrophe, by destroying our economy because a few people might die. To me, it's crazy.

Why are we shutting down our economy to prevent deaths? Makes no sense. The CA gov. says no school till September. I mean, if 7 million kids are gonna be permanently harmed (they will never make that learning up), what is the point of any of this? Why even reopen in September, as there will still be virus transmission? Just shut down schools forever, so no virus is transmitted on school grounds, ever.

Wuhan schools are open, BTW.



is young daddy tired of home schooling already? :haha:

anyway no, its not disaster to shut down for awhile during a pandemic. meaning like a month or two. its common sense until we have a better understanding. economically it just means q2 is out the window.

beyond that, yes. yes it would be disastrous. schools closed until sept? yes. but we'll see about all that, it isn't written in stone as of the moment. :shrug:

Crawford Mar 18, 2020 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 8865851)
What part about overwhelming the healthcare system do people not get? If you have a child, you should be freaked the fuck out about that possibility. If your kid chokes on a piece of hot dog while all of the doctors are trying to manage a coronavirus outbreak... well, good luck.

That risk is a much better option than ensuring my child doesn't have a life worth living in the first place.

Crawford Mar 18, 2020 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 8865882)
is young daddy tired of home schooling already? :haha:

anyway no, its not disaster to shut down for awhile during a pandemic. meaning like a month or two.

You're not following anything in this conversation. My child isn't at home, and no one is talking about "a month or two".

iheartthed Mar 18, 2020 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8865886)
That risk is a much better option than ensuring my child doesn't have a life worth living in the first place.

You can't possibly think that the leadership of every country in the western world hasn't already assessed the risk of inaction versus the draconian measures that they are now taking.

montréaliste Mar 18, 2020 3:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8865886)
That risk is a much better option than ensuring my child doesn't have a life worth living in the first place.

Why is your child so important to you?

Acajack Mar 18, 2020 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by montréaliste (Post 8865905)
Why is your child so important to you?

Isn't their child or children the most important thing for 95-99% of people who are parents?

montréaliste Mar 18, 2020 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8865908)
Isn't their child or children the most important thing for 95-99% of people who are parents?

Their children, their wives, husbands, their parents, maybe even their neighbors. But that question is for another day. Let's focus on the economy. Laffta.


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