1906 los angeles oil fields map of the wells just west of downtown. filled in circles represent producing wells, non filled circles represent non-producing wells.

(once again i have to apologize for the right scrolling required to see the full extent of the image, but i believe it is well worth the trouble!)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5110/...976d419c_o.jpg
Source: Library of Congress

some images of the oil wells on court street

1901

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...4/CHS-851?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

oil wells at court street and toluca street 1904 (toluca street is the street just west of kern street on the 1906 oil fields map)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-1276?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


Photograph of Edward L. Doheny at the site dedication ceremony for his discovery oil, 1930.

Doheny, wearing a straw hat, waving, and standing under a tall triangular wooden scaffold or derrick, discovered oil in 1892 near Second Street and Glendale Boulevard (south side of Court Street, east of Patton, 2½ blocks east of Glendale Boulevard).

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-4887?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

1910 image of oil wells at court and toluca

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-3686?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

Court Circle cont'd
 

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_d...81048%20AM.jpg
The Hill and the circle, 1891


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_d...84040%20AM.jpg
The circle was very convenient to the PE and LARy in 1906


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_d...81654%20AM.jpg
1909


All images historicmapworks.com

the railcar! 1958

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...342-006~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

have fun guys!

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...342-006~2?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


(what could possibly go wrong?)

Tax dollars + idiot educrats = bad things happen
 

Actually the true Darwin awards go to the LAUSD, who were shocked! when methane was discovered on the site of Roybal, and spent hundred of millions in remediation.

Meanwhile, a couple hours spent parsing through some old photos could have provided an inkling.

As to the derricks......can you imagine how many guys fell off those things? Especially Doheny's early tripod model.

Re PE's railcar
 

Rail inspection cars such as PE's '57 Pontiac are still in use. While sturdy medium-priced sedans and wagons such as Pontiacs, Buicks, and Chryslers were once popular for conversion, SUVs or 4-door pickups are the vehicles most often seen with Hy-Rail equipment today.


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_d...31115%20PM.jpgAACA
OK, it's not on rails at the moment, but it can if it wants to...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_d...23041%20PM.jpgAACA
The fender emblem on another Hy-Rail '57 Pontiac

shocking photograph of oil derricks on the belmont school property

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics36/00037767.jpg
Source: LAPL

another shocking photograph of a still operational well at the location of the Roybal Learning center the year it was approved 1988

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00075/00075037.jpg
Source: LAPL

you mean there's methane gas here?.............shocking...................


GW, i know that there is a use for non-rolling stock vehicles on rails, i was amused that the occupants of the pontiac were dressed in non-railworkers clothing, and appeared to be out for a joy ride on the rails...............(hey bill there's a train coming right towards us.............don't worry john, i'm bettin' he's gonna swerve first............)

:previous:

Looks to me like it's the front-office execs out for an inspection tour. No striped overalls for them!

Now post the "after" photo.

:previous:

okey dokey!

Car versus freight train at Jefferson Boulevard and La Brea Avenue, 1958

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...280-033~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

Auto vs train Avenue 57 and Marmion Way, 1957

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...078-001~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


Auto versus train Reseda Boulevard and Parthenia Street, Northridge, 1952

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...508-019~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


Train vs. auto in crossing accident at 25th and Alameda, 1951

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...166-010~1?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

Broadway tunnel looking north from Temple, circa 1949.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3...ytunnelloo.jpg
uscdl

Why is it blocked off?


_________

Figueroa & First Street. (possibly a repeat...but this area is so interesting I decided to post them anyway.)

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/4...illfiguero.jpg
uscdl



http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1...illnodaten.jpg
uscdl

I don't mean to get all factual on you, but are you sure that's 1988? US Bank was completed in 1989-90. :D

An interesting ad for the Hotel Lillie.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7...llielarger.jpg
ebay

The tri-wheeled Davis Motorcar in Los Angeles, 1947.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/859...torcar1947.jpg
Allen Grant for LIFE




http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/547...torcarklin.png
klingbergauto

Does anyone have more info on this intriguing streamline modern car?

The Regal Hotel at 815 E. 6th Street.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1221/la0418regal.jpg
postcard/ebay


below: The Regal Hotel today.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6...regaltoday.jpg
google street view



http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2...egaltoday1.jpg
google street view

_____________:(

i had questioned the date as well, but that is the date given for the photograph on the Los Angeles Public Library's Web Site

the photograph is probably closer to sometime in the mid 90's prior to work getting under way for the doomed original belmont learning center facility.

broadway, and the rail tracks have been rerouted to the east around the tunnel in preparation of this............

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2776/...5b76b23d_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/...d0c2905e_o.jpg

Where's the sparking pole?
 

ethereal: The Davis was L.A. born and bred--built right here in Van Nuys:
http://www.suarezweb.com/davis/pix/histfoto05.jpg


No, seriously--the car was literally the precursor of Dodgem bumper cars:

http://geezermusicclub.files.wordpre...pg?w=280&h=261Geezer Music Club



There's even a little stint in Castaic to add a bit of noir. Full story here: http://www.suarezweb.com/davis/davishst.htm

More pics: http://www.suarezweb.com/davis/davismen.htm and http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=308750

a very interesting survey of fort moore hill 1885 prior to the school building being relocated to this location

cemetery avenue became the northern extension of hill street

sand street would become california street

philadelphia street would become the northern extension of grand avenue

and canal, reservoir, short street would be incorporated into sunset boulevard

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/...29f1c9fb_b.jpg
Source: LAPL Visual Collections

Then and now
 

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_d...21236%20PM.jpgLos Angeles Times
An ad in the Times, May 16, 1926

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_d...21139%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View


For more info, click here: Historic Los Angeles

^^^Wow! I am so glad that this beautiful house survives GaylordWilshire.

I have some then/now photos I'll post later today.

First of all, my knowledge of the residences of Los Angeles is limited....so keep that in mind.

I found this photograph on ebay of a beautiful house in Los Angeles, circa 1910

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8...ckrindgere.jpg

Later I found out it was the Frederick Rindge residence at 2263 S. Harward.


below: Much to my surprise it still exists!

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3...rvardblvdb.jpg
google street view

Most of you probably already knew it survived after all these years.
I didn't, so it was quite wonderful to discover that this imposing edifice has survived! :)





below: An aerial view from Google street view. This gives you an idea of how LARGE this house is.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/658...rvardblvda.jpg

A beautiful house at 501 S. Boyle Avenue.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/369...1sboyleave.jpg



below: I could not find this home on google street view. I believe this is what took its place.....the Puente Learning Center.
If I'm wrong...please let me know.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9...ntelearnin.jpg
google street view


This building is actually quite interesting with it's steel cantilever roof trusses.

________

The Adolphus Busch residence in Pasadena (all three structures)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/566...uschpasade.jpg
uscdl



below: The John P. Jones residence in Santa Monica (later the Miramar hotel).

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2...sresidence.jpg
uscdl




below: The Jeannie C. Carr residence at Orange Grove Ave. & Colorado Blvd. in Pasadena, circa 1905.
This design is so Tyrolean I can almost smell the Edelweiss.

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5...eccarrpasa.jpg
uscdl





below: The William Garland residence at 8th Street & Westlake Ave.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/OUlvVX.jpg
uscdl

Notice the engraved granite block at the foot of the steps.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/PQKRYy.jpg
detail

uscdl

The M. A. Wright Residence at 1255 Westchester Place.


http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/5...chesterpla.jpg
uscdl

This unusual architectural style is perfect for southern California. Who needs gables when you can have open air balconies. :)

I was ready to log out for the night and then decided to google '1255 Westchester Place'
This beauty is still there!

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/671...esterplace.jpg
google street view

The state of decay is especially intriguing. The overgrown flora..the makeshift ramp...the peeling paint...the obsolete television antenna.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/...fe820502_z.jpg

Hello, Sleuths of Los Angeles. So in tracking L.A.'s Historic-Cultural Monuments I was lucky enough to find photos through a variety of sources - about which most of you know - for nearly all the landmarks. However, I was never able to locate pictures of HCM No. 192, (the Site of) Franklin Garden Apartments besides this 1978 shot from the city's Department of Planning website. Until the late 1970s the building was next to the Magic Castle in Hollywood. Since discovering this thread, I've been thinking if there's anyone who could provide images of this long-gone complex, it's you lot. Thanks a ton.

And thank you for the information on the Broadway tunnel a few posts back.

:previous:

i'll keep looking, but there are these two aerials (the first from 1924, the 2nd from probably 1922, as the hollywoodland sign is not erected yet, but the whitley heights H is), of the neighborhood surrounding the Bernheimer Estate.

the franklin garden apartments are visible to the right of the magic castle. (as an added plus, another long lost historic apartment house, the garden court apartments is very prominent in the foreground)

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070807.jpg
Source: LAPL

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070819.jpg
Source: LAPL

here's a view looking east on franklin past orange, you can see a sliver portion of the magic castle on the far left. this image is from 1934, so that has to be the west facade of the franklin garden apartments.......(at least i think it is....)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-36899?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

i'll keep looking, but it wasn't easy finding this one.........

Garden Court Apt. Hotel close ups
 

As seen in the 1920's
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...TAVQ6994HF.jpg cal state lib

http://wikimapia.org/p/00/00/73/82/26_big.jpgwikimapia

http://wikimapia.org/p/00/00/73/82/24_big.jpgwikimapia


taken in the late 1970's
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...DTU4RJLTKA.jpg cal state lib

The last straw:(home to runaways and gang members
http://wikimapia.org/p/00/00/73/82/23_big.jpgwikimapia

a 1982 Time Magazine article talks about the heyday 1920s in these apartments when all 72 suites had a baby grand piano, and the likes of Laurel and Hardy, Louis B Meyer and John Barrymore lived there.It also tells of the battle between developers and those are trying to turn it into a museum, from the perspective of 1980's resignation over Hollywood's decay.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...950674,00.html

Damn those houses are amazing that etheral_reality posted! At least some still survive.

What's not to love about these colorful WPA land-use maps of Los Angeles?
 

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_d...60424%20PM.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_d...55420%20PM.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_d...53709%20PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_d...55142%20PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_d...61646%20PM.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_d...54405%20PM.jpg

All images: USCDL


ethereal: great house shots--my kind of thing

That's the best picture I have ever seen of Court Circle. Now the location of the Bank of America Data Center

WHOA..what a coincidence Gaylord Wilshire! I spent all last night looking through those same WPA maps from 1939.

I enlarged a few of the interesting things that caught my eye.



below: I found a good view of Court Circle which had been discussed a few posts back.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/805...ircle1939a.jpg
uscdl




below: I also noticed a heart shaped park in the Boyle Heights area.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8...dprospectp.jpg
uscdl



below: In the area east of Union Station (the location of the enormous gasometers)
I was surprised by the total land area owned by the Los Angeles Gas Co.

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4...asco3areas.jpg
uscdl



below:
I thought it was interesting to see the boundary placing West Hollywood and the Sunset Strip outside of the city limits.


http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8...ndriesweho.jpg
uscdl

"As the Strip lies outside of the Los Angeles city limits and was an unincorporated area under the jurisdiction of the County of Los Angeles, the area fell under the less-vigilant jurisdiction of the Sheriff's Department rather than the heavy hand of the LAPD. It was illegal to gamble in the city, but legal in the county. This fostered the building of a rather wilder concentration of nightlife than Los Angeles would tolerate, and in the 1920s a number of nightclubs and casinos moved in along the Strip, which attracted movie people to this less-restricted area."

__wikipedia



below: I thought it was rather curious that this oil field was also outside the city limits.

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2...cityboundr.jpg
uscdl

http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/4...4boundries.jpg
uscdl

Photos......maps......and now artwork.

Something for the Noirish Los Angeles enthusiast.

http://www.californiawatercolor.com/.../emil_kosa_jr/

"Moore Hill"
http://californiawatercolor.com/wate...l_url=1&type=1

"Old Lugo House"
http://californiawatercolor.com/wate...l_url=1&type=1

Titled "L.A. Trainyard" (7th Street Bridge, perhaps? I'm not perfectly fluent in my LA River crossings.)
http://californiawatercolor.com/wate...l_url=1&type=1

:previous: Looks like the Broadway (fore) and Spring (rear) bridges/viaducts just northeast of where the Los Angeles Historic State Park now is. Also, I believe The Brewery and the County General are in the further distance. Awesome artwork malumot!

187 pages in, and this thread just keeps getting better?

Western & Slauson:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5228/...8fece568_b.jpg

(a Dick Whittington from the archives)

This thread is hands down the best thing of SSP. The posts are always interesting. The photos are so evocative The discourse is civil. I have always loved LA, and you guys that regularly post here just keep serving up good stuff. Thanks and please keep it up.

before the railroad crossing gate, we had the latest in modern safety technology........................a swinging pendulum Wig Wag!

looking east on market street towards pacific avenue in venice 1929

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-EN-29-62?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

The Wig Wag was invented right here in Los Angeles by Albert Hunt, a mechanical engineer with the Pacific Electric Interurban Railroad.

looking east on ocean park boulevard across main street in santa monica 1929

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-EN-29-52?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

a self standing wig wag in arcadia 1923

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-EN-209-5?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

while i have railroads on the brain, (and also since E_R and GW have gotten me hooked on a new drug........................WPA Land Use Maps........like i needed another addiction.......sheeeesh) , thought i would find some photos of this locale;


the old LARR train barn at 12th and georgia street

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5229/...0bb4901d_o.jpg

now it looks like this, The convention center, and a portion of la live occupy the site now

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5190/...c902d284_o.jpg

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...492-015~6?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...492-015~5?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

looking north on georgia street past the train barn. the trains are lined up, after having halted service due to the "Battle of Los Angeles" the night before (February 25th, 1942)

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics32/00050978.jpg
Source: LAPL

looking north on georgia street past the barn from 12th 1924

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics07/00013167.jpg
Source: LAPL

the train barn at night

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics18/00028872.jpg
Source: LAPL

:previous:

gs: I for one will not participate in any sort of intervention.

I had saved the map/image of the LARR car barn as well.
I was going to do some research and post my findings but you beat me to it gsj! :)

Then I realized the LARR car barn I had come across was located at an entirely different location.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6...rycoachyar.jpg
uscdl

This one is farther south at 16th Street. So far, I haven't found any additional information about it.
I thought you might have better luck gsjansen.


ps: I really liked the Wig Wag photos.I had forgotten all about those things.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/...0e47c5ca_b.jpg
USC Digital Library

Thanks a million, gsjansen, for those shots of the Franklin Garden Apartments. I think I've seen the two aerials, but that third, above, is new to me and worth the price of admission. It's like a different planet. Those shades trees are more mature than I'd have expected for December 1934. (The apartments date to 1920).

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5145/...75706ae3_z.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5145/...75706ae3_z.jpg

Hello everybody and a Big Hello and thank-you to ethereal_reality for creating this thread. My Uncle Bert Rovere loved his Los Angeles and would certainly agree this is, as they say, "Dope".

When I first looked through my 1943 Renie Atlas, I was surprised to see that more of those "unincorporated islands" existed back then than now; for example, what is now the Trousdale Estates section of Beverly Hills used to be unincorporated County area, and is labeled in the Atlas as being the Doheny Estate. To the west of there, which is now part of the Santa Monica Mountains Recreation Area containing Franklin Reservoir and part of LA city limits, used to be unincorporated County area as well before it was annexed by LA.

In that last pic above, the oil field immediately north of Hancock Park, in my Renie Atlas, the streets are already denoted for the Park La Brea complex and is part of the City of LA. But north of 3rd and south of Beverly, that oil field, in my Renie Atlas, that area is shown as containing Gilmore Field and the Pan Pacific Auditorium--and it was unincorporated County area; so back then, the Farmers Market and what eventually became CBS Television City, used to be outside of LA City limits.

Of course some unincorporated islands still remain. Universal City is on unincorporated County land, as well as what was once called the National Soldiers Home--now the VA Medical Center, with land that also contains the National Cemetery and Federal Building.

Universal Studios, undated photo
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013635.jpg
LAPL

VA Hospital, 1939
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics11/00025012.jpg
LAPL

VA Hospital, 1930 (?)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics11/00025034.jpg
LAPL

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068913.jpgLAPL


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_d...91532%20AM.jpgLAPL

When I first saw this map section, I thought, what's that odd, interrupted diagonal feature? It's no road that I recognize. Then, when I went to the USC site itself to look at that map, I was really intrigued, because I saw that that diagonal passed almost directly through the apartment building on So. Norton Ave. where my mother lived from 1941-1951 (green box below).

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...onwpamap-1.jpg
USCDL

I've visited that place twice in the last couple of years, and I can attest that there's no such feature visible in that area today. (Mom's apartment was on the upper storey at the back of the green building.)

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...ents_sky-1.jpg
My own photo on flickr.

Actually, now that I look at the area on Google Earth, I can, in places, just barely make out a remnant of this diagonal feature crossing the area from W. 8th St. down to Pico Blvd. Could this be one of Los Angeles's many vanished creeks, perhaps? That's my best guess...

-Scott


EDIT: Answering my own question – that diagonal topographic feature appears to be a headwater tributary of Ballona Creek. It's very faint, but it's indicated by the green arrow on this map.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...topo_sky-1.jpg
Ballona Creek Renaissance.

Memories of Lucca's
 

One of my parents favorite restaurants, in Los Angeles, was Lucca's...I remember going there, as a teenager, in the late forties...I especially remember the dessert cart...as it would roll by our table and then come again at the end of dinner.

the bus depot on 16th street still exists and is utilized today as the division 2 crossroads bus depot.

http://images1.cpcache.com/product/2...x480_Front.jpg

the Metro Transportation Library and Archive flickr set has a few photographs of the yard

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/...73cc813c_o.jpg
Source: Metro Transportation Library and Archive Flickr Set

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3513/...b8cdd603_o.jpg
Source: Metro Transportation Library and Archive Flickr Set

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/...ea8ba8ea_b.jpg
Source: Metro Transportation Library and Archive Flickr Set

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/...5d31f1bc_b.jpg
Source: Metro Transportation Library and Archive Flickr Set

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/...3d2fd223_b.jpg
Source: Metro Transportation Library and Archive Flickr Set

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/...b84a368d_o.jpg
Source: Metro Transportation Library and Archive Flickr Set

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/...e7cb6d7c_b.jpg
Source: Metro Transportation Library and Archive Flickr Set

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5102/...587ce1dd_z.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5102/...587ce1dd_z.jpg

Thanks rbpj! Dad would of loved the comment. He managed Lucca from the late 40's until it closed in 1955.