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ethereal_reality Aug 26, 2019 3:51 AM

Detail of the 1928 map posting by BillInGlendale.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/M87sng.jpg
USG map
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8668774)

I'm here to help (being that I'm a loyal minion).

You can see a road that follows(though a bit more curvy) the current path of Commonwealth as it curves west to Vermont Canyon Road
and Vista Del Vale Road as it then heads north though the park. If you took this route to Mt. Hollywood(and I have) you'd exit Vista Del Vale
just below Glendale Peak and climb up the hogback(the ridge looks like a hog's back) to Dante's View and then up to the summit.

Minion Bill, so you're saying the 'Mt. Hollywood Trail', as seen in the 1916 photographs, eventually became Vermont Canyon Road? :shrug:


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/Ilrn7O.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/FKG02i.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...921/zCj2Xc.jpg

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BillinGlendaleCA Aug 26, 2019 3:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8668928)
Detail of the 1928 map posting by BillInGlendale.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/M87sng.jpg
USG map

Minion Bill, so you're saying the 'Mt. Hollywood Trail', as seen in the 1916 photographs, eventually became Vermont Canyon Road? :shrug:


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/Ilrn7O.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/FKG02i.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...921/zCj2Xc.jpg

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No, Vista Del Valle.

ethereal_reality Aug 26, 2019 4:24 AM

:previous: Thanks for the clarification, Bill.


I just checked to see if the eBay seller had anymore photograph of the Mt. Hollywood Trail. (they didn't)

...but the seller did have this undated snapshot of the corner of Broadway and Ninth Street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/yC7hfA.jpg
eBay

This is the first time that I'ne noticed vertical shutters on a highrise building. (in this case, the Majestic Theater building)




DETAIL -even the tiny windows have shutters. (that one window looks like a very skinny door)..or am I seeing things?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/rLEuU4.jpg

The shutters remind me of New Orleans for some reason.



HERE'S THE REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/YsyhqA.jpg

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sopas ej Aug 27, 2019 3:50 AM

Alhambra High School, Alhambra, CA. Undated photo, but going by the girls' fashions, my guess is early 1950s. I didn't realize that the main building of Alhambra High used to face Main Street.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...2f&oe=5DC7645E
I Love Alhambra Ca Facebook page

ethereal_reality Aug 27, 2019 4:02 AM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/Zg3jxg.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 8668735)
...I was able to match that intricate strip of carved wood. But that circular light fixture above the woman's head proved to be something else again. In none of the photos I have or any I found on a Google image search was I able to see that fixture. My guess is that it's inside the entrance that was later built onto the side of the "ship" it was lost in the fire. But if anyone reading this has a photo of the Ship Cafe which shows that light fixture, I would love to see it.

Martin, I wasn't able to find any images that show the elusive light fixture....but I got a good look at the new entrance you mentioned.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/q8FnTp.jpg
LAPL 1946

I wonder who made the dubious decision to include the incongruous blue dome on the new entrance?


How do I know the dome is blue?




THIS
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/rhyXcU.jpg
detail of postcard

Martin, you said the light fixture might have been inside the new entrance..but the young lady is obviously standing outside....so I'm not sure what you meant.

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LA Kitty Kat Aug 27, 2019 4:14 AM

sopas ej

Thank you for the picture of Alhambra High School. I went there in the '60's, and the building on Main was long gone. I've never seen this picture before, but I wish they would have left the buildings as they were. The whole time I was there there was "portable" buildings that were very ugly!

ethereal_reality Aug 27, 2019 4:14 AM

At one point in time there was another faux-ship on Abbot Kinney Pier.

A battleship!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/fxWMUr.jpg
KCET via LAPL

I would wager a guess that this was during WWI.

It brings to mind the faux-warship that was temporarily in Central Park/Pershing Square, downtown. *looking for Pershing Square Battleship image as we speak*

sopas ej Aug 27, 2019 4:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LA Kitty Kat (Post 8669965)
sopas ej

Thank you for the picture of Alhambra High School. I went there in the '60's, and the building on Main was long gone. I've never seen this picture before, but I wish they would have left the buildings as they were. The whole time I was there there was "portable" buildings that were very ugly!

You're welcome! I drive through Alhambra often, on my way to work in the city of Rosemead from where I live in South Pasadena. It would've been nice to see downtown Alhambra in decades past. Even now, I've seen its evolution from the late 1990s when I moved to South Pas, where I have been living ever since. In fact today, I had dinner at that Indonesian restaurant on Garfield just south of Main. I'm actually a regular there, I probably go there once every other week or so.

ethereal_reality Aug 27, 2019 4:05 PM

A mystery postcard


RPPC / Real Photo PC "Greetings to Mrs. Albertson, 1904 Postmark, Los Angeles California"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/02ptEZ.jpg
ebay (found about a week ago)

I am almost certain the home behind the man is the famous "Bivouac" which was built by General Harrison Grey Otis, the publisher and editor of the Los Angeles Times, in 1898.

Sooo...I'll wager a guess and say the man is General Otis.




REVERSE

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/2XMTpH.jpg
POSTMARK, FEB. 25, 1904





I am hoping someone (minion) will help decipher the writing on the front side of the postcard.


ENLARGED FOR EASIER DECIPHERIN'

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/uyGzXo.jpg

#1 I see that Los Angeles is mentioned.

#2 It appears the greeting is from S_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Springs. (or... they met the person at the springs)

#3I believe a Gen. is mentioned but it isn't Otis. (Helsing?) ^wink*

#4 The name of the sender is at the end of the greeting (as usual)...A Mr. B _ _ _ _ _ _ _

.....I NEED HELP...........HELP...........HELP.

:superwhip........:superwhip



GaylordWilshire Aug 27, 2019 6:53 PM

That is indeed "General" Harrison Gray Otis's "Bivouac"...

https://wilshireboulevardhouses.blog...e-see-our.html


but I don't think the fellow pictured on the postcard is fat enough to be him, and he certainly doesn't have enough medals:

https://i.postimg.cc/g0RdNmbs/2401-O...EDALSfixed.jpg

FredH Aug 27, 2019 7:06 PM

:previous:

Well E.R. here is what I got from this guy's "great" handwriting.


How do you do Miss? Do you know me? I come from Los Angeles Cal to
bring you greetings from me you met at Stafford Springs. A line C/O Gen W...
will find me. Kindly, Mr. B.....


A lot of guessing :shrug:

ethereal_reality Aug 27, 2019 8:04 PM

:previous: Thanks for giving it the good ol' college try, FredH. I appreciate it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8670428)

I don't think the fellow pictured on the postcard is fat enough to be him, and he certainly doesn't have enough medals.


Here's a closer look at the gentleman standing in front of the Bivouva.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gvCzgD.jpg
DETAIL

I wonder if the newspapers on the ground are his?
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HossC Aug 27, 2019 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8669952)

Alhambra High School, Alhambra, CA. Undated photo, but going by the girls' fashions, my guess is early 1950s. I didn't realize that the main building of Alhambra High used to face Main Street.

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...2f&oe=5DC7645E
I Love Alhambra Ca Facebook page

Quote:

Originally Posted by LA Kitty Kat (Post 8669965)

I went there in the '60's, and the building on Main was long gone.

It wasn't "long gone" - this aerial is from 1960. The building above is in the center.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lhambraHS1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

It didn't last long into the '60s, however, as the 1964 view at Historic Aerials shows a completely different building on the site. It doesn't seem to change over the years, so it was probably the store seen in early GSV images like this one from 2009.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lhambraHS2.jpg
GSV

Even the 2012 image shows no sign of the store's demise, but by 2013 they were holding a groundbreaking ceremony for the current mixed-use development (you can see a picture on their Facebook page).

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lhambraHS3.jpg
GSV

The Alhambra Public Library next door has also become a mixed-use development.

ethereal_reality Aug 27, 2019 10:54 PM

Here is a very unique RPPC (REAL PHOTO POST CARD) advertising a Kewpie-like Flapper Lamp adorned with ostrich feathers.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/4rUjyF.jpg
eBay

...................................A. Corenson,....845 Sunset Blvd.....Los Angeles, Cal.




I couldn't help but notice the plug-in.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/So0LpO.jpg
DETAIL

It looks like it might plug into a car cigarette lighter. Do you think the novelty lamp was intended for an automobile? (I doubt it, myself)
Hmmmm......did cars even have cigarettes lighters in the 1920s?



Sidenote:
It's not all that far-fetched.
Many years ago my great uncle had a fuzzy 'dog' in the rear window of his car. The dog's eyes blinked,
either left and right, to show which way the car was turning. (the eyes might have worked as brake lights as well)




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BillinGlendaleCA Aug 27, 2019 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8670755)
Here is a very unique RPPC (REAL PHOTO POST CARD) advertising a Kewpie-like Flapper Lamp adorned with ostrich feathers.

I couldn't help but notice the plug-in.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/So0LpO.jpg
DETAIL

It looks like it might plug into a car cigarette lighter. Do you think the novelty lamp was intended for an automobile? (I doubt it, myself)
Hmmmm......did cars even have cigarettes lighters in the 1920s?


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Looks to me more like it screws into a light socket.

Handsome Stranger Aug 28, 2019 1:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8670755)
Hmmmm......did cars even have cigarettes lighters in the 1920s?

Yes, some did. But those lighters varied in how they looked and how they worked.

The standard lighter in automobiles that we're all familiar with now (the V-Coil lighter) came later. That design was patented in 1956 by a company called Casco, and became widely adopted by 1960 or so.

MartinTurnbull Aug 28, 2019 2:11 AM

Great great grandma at Ship Cafe, Venice California
 
Hey ethereal_reality - that shot with the blue dome is new to me too.

What I meant was that perhaps they kept the circular fixture but that at some point they built the entrance around the front door with the fixture above it.

Perhaps the fixture ended up inside your blue dome...?


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8669956)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/Zg3jxg.jpg


Martin, I wasn't able to find any images that show the elusive light fixture....but I got a good look at the new entrance you mentioned.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/q8FnTp.jpg
LAPL 1946

I wonder who made the dubious decision to include the incongruous blue dome on the new entrance?


How do I know the dome is blue?




THIS
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/rhyXcU.jpg
detail of postcard

Martin, you said the light fixture might have been inside the new entrance..but the young lady is obviously standing outside....so I'm not sure what you meant.

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sopas ej Aug 28, 2019 2:23 AM

It seems there was a period in southern California (or was it all of California?) when traffic light poles were painted yellow. So...

Colorado Boulevard looking east from Los Robles Avenue, Pasadena, circa early to mid-1960s.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...76&oe=5DCF4495
flickr.com

The traffic lights are attached to the lamp posts, so what they did was paint the lower part yellow. I didn't know they did that. Looks funny to me; kind of tacky.

Here's another example of that on West Main Street in Alhambra, 1956:
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...1a&oe=5DD03B8B
reddit.com TheWayWeWere

Alhambra, 1950s.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...46&oe=5E11F80B
flickr.com timetravelnow

Flyingwedge Aug 28, 2019 4:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8669966)
At one point in time there was another faux-ship on Abbot Kinney Pier.

A battleship!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/fxWMUr.jpg
KCET via LAPL

I would wager a guess that this was during WWI.


Thanks for this interesting photo, e_r! I do not remember seeing this structure (does it say "Fresh Fish"?) before. I wonder if
it was built that way originally, or if an existing building was decorated for the Great White Fleet's April 1908 visit to Venice.
I also wonder how long the "USS Venice" was in service.


April 21, 1908, Los Angeles Herald:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pscvnugqjs.jpg

California Digital Newspaper Collection @ UC Riverside


The pier-bound "warship" looks like it was patterned after a typical American pre-Dreadnought battleship of that era, the type
which comprised the Great White Fleet. Compare the mock battleship with this 1908 photo of Missouri, one of the battleships
in the advertisement above.

CityBoyDoug Aug 28, 2019 8:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8669952)
Alhambra High School, Alhambra, CA. Undated photo, but going by the girls' fashions, my guess is early 1950s. I didn't realize that the main building of Alhambra High used to face Main Street.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...2f&oe=5DC7645E
I Love Alhambra Ca Facebook page

I attended Alhambra High in the final year that the building stood. I've walked up those steps in the photo many times.

The Alhambra Board of Education finally came to their senses in 1957 and realized that the property that fronted Main St. was worth a fortune. It had no business being a high school and it was sold to Von's Markets, Many old homes south of Main St. were condemned and bought out by the City for land for the new school buildings. Several blocks were demolished.

The big problem in that city are Property Taxes. The elderly citizens screamed for decades and refused to raise property taxes to build the new school. They finally did raise taxes and built a new high school on the cheap. It was nothing fancy and had no pool.


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