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CrestedSaguaro Jan 21, 2022 10:06 PM

Demo App submitted for adjacent building next to McKinley Club for the First McKinley (McKinley Green) development. Also, looks like JE Dunn will be the general contractor. They are the company is currently constructing Moon Tower and we all see how fast that one is moving.

I'm betting this and Union Phase 2 will be built nearly concurrently. :cheers:

ASU Diablo Jan 21, 2022 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro (Post 9510535)
Demo App submitted for adjacent building next to McKinley Club for the First McKinley (McKinley Green) development. Also, looks like JE Dunn will be the general contractor. They are the company is currently constructing Moon Tower and we all see how fast that one is moving.

I'm betting this and Union Phase 2 will be built nearly concurrently. :cheers:

Excellent update. First McKinley looks awesome and will be an excellent addition to the area. I've always liked the old McKinley Club building so I'm really glad it's getting rehabbed in the process as well.

Bonus if it goes up around the same time as Union Phase 2.

Obadno Jan 21, 2022 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo (Post 9510617)
Excellent update. First McKinley looks awesome and will be an excellent addition to the area. I've always liked the old McKinley Club building so I'm really glad it's getting rehabbed in the process as well.

Bonus if it goes up around the same time as Union Phase 2.

Didnt this one also include a grocery store?

ASU Diablo Jan 21, 2022 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 9510623)
Didnt this one also include a grocery store?

Right. Not sure if this is still the plan however. Article is almost 5 years old.

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...enix-real.html

Chestnut1 Jan 22, 2022 12:17 AM

Final building plans for Society Phoenix phase 2 were just submitted, so this one seems to be moving along.

CrestedSaguaro Jan 22, 2022 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chestnut1 (Post 9510658)
Final building plans for Society Phoenix phase 2 were just submitted, so this one seems to be moving along.

Saw that. I submitted a records request a couple weeks ago for phase 2 and nothing was available yet. I'll submit another one and see if there are any new renderings yet.

TJPHXskyscraperfan Jan 22, 2022 7:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chestnut1 (Post 9510658)
Final building plans for Society Phoenix phase 2 were just submitted, so this one seems to be moving along.

I feel like this should of all went up at the same time. I would not want to be a resident on the north side of the building with all the construction noise.

thespiandave Jan 23, 2022 9:20 PM

Pics from Downtown
 
Didn’t have time to sort them all out, but here are some pictures from a jog this morning: https://imgur.com/gallery/STxmujo

azliam Jan 23, 2022 9:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thespiandave (Post 9511746)
Didn’t have time to sort them all out, but here are some pictures from a jog this morning: https://imgur.com/gallery/STxmujo

Thanks for posting. That color on Derby is fugly IMO.

combusean Jan 24, 2022 1:31 AM

Derby looks so bad. No wonder their hero rendering was at night.

biggus diggus Jan 24, 2022 2:14 AM

Somehow it looks like the Sheraton but uglier.

Sunsfan87 Jan 24, 2022 3:24 AM

The Central Park
 
The Central Park project at Indian School Park is on the cover of the latest AZRE magazine. Maybe this will start moving soon? I didn’t see anything in the rest of the magazine about it. https://azbigmedia.com/publications/...bruary-2022-2/

Gensler has the project on their website: https://www.gensler.com/projects/the...rk?e=developer

CrestedSaguaro Jan 24, 2022 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by combusean (Post 9511895)
Derby looks so bad. No wonder their hero rendering was at night.

They really cut back on the design from the original renderings. I'm not sure if this was due to the pandemic or what, but it seems to be a common theme with towers built here. Adeline was also watered down from the original renderings. The backside of Derby was supposed to feature a diamond-patterned metal covering over the façade. The colors are just awful. Very disappointed in how it came out.

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Originally Posted by Sunsfan87 (Post 9511972)
The Central Park project at Indian School Park is on the cover of the latest AZRE magazine. Maybe this will start moving soon? I didn’t see anything in the rest of the magazine about it. https://azbigmedia.com/publications/...bruary-2022-2/

Gensler has the project on their website: https://www.gensler.com/projects/the...rk?e=developer

Gensler is just the architect of record and I'm guessing they're just using this development to showcase their work. There has been no movement on the project and nothing has been submitted outside a fact finding and site development plan.

somethingfast Jan 24, 2022 4:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro (Post 9512241)
Gensler is just the architect of record and I'm guessing they're just using this development to showcase their work. There has been no movement on the project and nothing has been submitted outside a fact finding and site development plan.

Seems like the City should hold developers to their final renderings and not allow a lot of cost-cutting changes from final rendering to final design implementation. I mean, if you got a feature greenlighted by City you should have to produce that in the final construction seems to me.

Obadno Jan 24, 2022 5:37 PM

For a very long time Phoenix as a city was not in the position make a lot of demands on developers.

We are now getting to the point that we can. But 10 or 20 years ago trying to push a lot of dictates on a tower would just result in the developer bailing for greener pastures.

somethingfast Jan 24, 2022 6:07 PM

i hear ya however this just seems like an issue of, you build what you said you were gonna build otherwise we have some problems, ya know? if your final design shows a crown you shouldn't be able to deliver a flat-top. i realize there are small variances always but color etc shouldn't be one of them.

combusean Jan 24, 2022 6:46 PM

P&Z has lamented the fact that they have no enforcement capability. About the best they can do is shoot for "general conformance to the site plan."

But having gone through the zoning code, the only thing Derby is really in violation of is the entirely-subjective section that says "[a]bove 65 feet, tall building[sic] should not have massing that is boxy, bulky, and elongated."

https://phoenix.municipal.codes/ZO/1215

Obadno Jan 24, 2022 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro (Post 9512241)



Gensler is just the architect of record and I'm guessing they're just using this development to showcase their work. There has been no movement on the project and nothing has been submitted outside a fact finding and site development plan.

Im not so sure they cleared the site of most small brush and debris a few weeks ago.

somethingfast Jan 24, 2022 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by combusean (Post 9512568)
P&Z has lamented the fact that they have no enforcement capability. About the best they can do is shoot for "general conformance to the site plan."

https://phoenix.municipal.codes/ZO/1215

wow, that is indeed pretty vague. "general conformance" is pretty dang vague lol. but makes sense why we see such good renderings result in increasingly value-engineered compromises...

Phxguy Jan 25, 2022 2:50 AM

Is anyone aware of a project known as VeLa Roosevelt on the NEC of Pierce and Central Ave? It was brought to my attention recently from a reputable source but this is the only info I have at this time. Can anyone work their magic?


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