From Census and other info, it does not appear that she lived in Los Angeles in 1925. She would have been 19 at the time and appears with her parents in Kansas in 1920 and in the Kansas State Census, also with her parents in 1925. There is a passport application in 1924 which lists her residence as the Wentworth Hotel in NYC. She married an Albert Sutherland in 1926 in New York. Sometime before 1928 she had gone on trip to France and returned in 1928 when there are travel documents found. Her passport application, dated September 18, 1924, is signed and attested to by Barbara Bennett, sister of actresses Constance and Joan Bennett.

She had apparently divorced Mr. Sutherland and then at some point married a Deering Davis. All of this apparently occurred in New York. The only reference there is to her living in Los Angeles was in the 1940 Census when she is listed as working as a copy writer for a magazine ( according to articles, she did this work for a short time, before returning to New York) In that Census she was living at 1317-3 North Fairfax Ave in Beverly Hills.

This building may be still there, although that number no longer appears in the Tax Assessor records. There are U-shaped apartments located in this area which are from the right era but there are no yards to speak of. An aerial view on Google street view, shows an area at the back of one of the buildings between the garages, which has some foliage. It is that annoying "cartoon" sort of stuff, through which you can't actually see anything.

Looking at the photos, it appears that there are hills in the background, so it probably isn't at the North Fairfax address, but in someone else's backyard. Also, there do not appear to be those French doors on the buildings on Fairfax.

She died in New York in 1985.

As to what is growing, it looks like newly-planted ivy. You plant small starts of ivy about a foot apart and then wait for it to spread, which it will. In between the ivy, it looks like there may be some Ice Plant (Delosperma) which is also prone to spreading.

Dead in auto, 1955
Dead in auto, 11 July 1955. Frank Hanf (found dead in auto at 6th and Lafayette).;Caption slip reads: 'Photographer: Wyman. Date: 1955-07-11. Reporter: Coart. Assignment: Dead in Auto. 19-20: Coroner's deputies remove body of Frank Hanf found dead in auto at 6th & Lafayette Park Pl.'6th Street & South La Fayette Park Place; Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Los Angeles Examiner/USC Libraries/Corbis via Getty Images)

Yes, I concur. The main planting looks like newly planted Algerian Ivy (Hedera algeriensis). The neighborhood rats, snails, mice, and other such critters will be watching the development of this with pleasure, as they dote on thick patches of Algerian Ivy.

Sorry for my skimpy presence on NLA lately, I'm kind of busy these days, horticulturally in particular (but other stuff too): November-December are heavy gardening months for me, odd as that might seem...

Cheers! :cheers:

https://i.postimg.cc/y6Psfmv3/aq.jpg

Happy Anniversary, Los Angeles Aqueduct!

Thanks for the reminder, HS.

See the Joseph B. Lippincott collection for LA Aqueduct construction photos.

https://calisphere.org/collections/13109/

Andys

At the time of his murder(?), Frank was living at 476 S. Burlington Ave.

1955-56 directory
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/EjZBo9.jpg
LAPL




In one of the bungalows shown below. (in the RED)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/nzr4p7.jpg
google_earth




street view
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/D3LIFP.jpg
GSV

Far left row. (I think)




Which means Frank wasn't too far from home when he met his demise.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/LjgwVy.jpg
google_earth

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I was trying to link the photo but it didn't work and I didn't notice it was already solved. OOpsie

ER: Here's your first post on these Monopoly houses--from almost 5 years ago:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17630


and a follow-up:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17647

:previous: Thanks for the links GW.

I remembered that we had talked about these bungalows but I wasn't able to locate the older posts.


I like that Those Who Squirm mentioned 'It Happened One Night'.

https://imageshack.com/a/img921/3820/1P0wMq.gif
giphy

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/bCMhvK.jpg


but I don't recall how the 'wall of jericho' came down in IHON. ...did Clark blow a trumpet? ...did a semi roll by?

...earthquake? (no, I would have remembered an earthquake ;))

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re: Bonaventure Hotel, downtown Los Angeles.


I wasn't aware, until this morning, that the Bonaventure Hotel originally had a cabaret.

Los Angeles, California 1974-76
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/VJ2mx5.jpg
mltshp

So where was this cabaret located? Did it revolve like the bar at the top?

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Let's stick with the same time period [1976 in this cae] and travel over to the Los Angeles Hilton. (the Statler)


proto-alexa / aug. 23, 1976
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/9HB18p.jpg
los angeles times archive

"Mike Grady looked at his computer and asked it if it knew any songs. After a momentary pause, the machine obliged with “Mary Had a Little Lamb.”

The Logicon Corp. computer, displayed at the Los Angeles Hilton just prior to the Torrance company’s annual meeting Monday, won’t be a contender for the Top 40.
It’s tone deaf and sounds like it has a stuffed-up nose.

But it’s a hit at what it’s designed to do, which is to allow humans to enter data into the computer simply by talking to it, and to get data out of the computer by having
it talk back to them.

The system used by Logicon and many other firms involves 60 sounds called “phonems.” These 60 phonems are stored in the computer’s memory. When it needs to “speak” a word, it searches its memory for the sounds that make up the word, puts them together and “speaks.” The 60 can make virtually any word in the English language."
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


That's a lot of mixed patterns for one room...octagonal carpeting, chequerboard ceiling pattern and a floral pattern on the wall. :yeech:

Excellent information on the Widneys Bristolian. Thank you.
Ida Degraw Tuthill was born in 1845. She died on February 10, 1879 in Los Angeles, California. [aged: 34 years old]
J.P.'s second wife was Mary Bray, born in April 1844 [married J.P. in 1882] She died in March 1903 in Los Angeles. [aged: 58 years old]

J.P. died at 10:50 am on July 4, 1938 in his home in Highland Park, Los Angeles, California, aged 96.

Do we know J.P.'s Highland Park address? I wonder if the house is still there.


info. from geneanet

;)

Am I the only one that didn't know there was a heliport in Griffith ParK?

I looked up the CDs, and then found that the answer was in Joseph Widney's Wikipedia page:

He owned the parcel of land where the Los Angeles City Hall now stands, as well as much of Mt. Washington, Los Angeles, California, where his last home (a Victorian mansion at 3901 Marmion Way) stood.

It looks like there's apartments there now.

:previous: Thanks for checking it out Hoss.


'mystery' cliff accident(?)

Here's a trio of getty images without the getty imprint over the pics. (and without information]

The year is 1955.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/kmMocd.jpg
getty_images





Here's a larger view of the image on the left.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/Ca8AXm.jpg

It's rather difficult to see what [exactly] is at the bottom of the cliff. To me, the wrecks look like they're been down there for awhile.




Maybe the policeman is taking inventory of the number of wrecks.

If we could only read what he's writing down on the tablet.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/kHKrW4.jpg
Detail

He's probably writing..."Screw this, I'm not going down there."

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Here's another 1955 'mystery'


As you can see, it's some sort of ground fire, no doubt, from spilled gasoline or some other flammable liquid.

#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/gMyjwR.jpg
getty_images


Does anyone recognize this area?


#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/yM4F4H.jpg





#3 and #4
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/9wpa6D.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/1KXHda.jpg





This last one is my favorite
#5
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/nEBXFY.jpg

but I'm not entirely sure what's going on.


All Getty Images

Laundra Maid was at 8700 Santa Monica Blvd, corner of Westbourne Dr. in West Hollywood.


https://i.imgur.com/j6Gwz0H.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org



https://i.imgur.com/iB77HXn.jpg
GSV

If my long years in Public Works serves me right, one of two things:

1. These guys are opening a street valve (or angle stop as they're known) to increase the water flow to the hydrant. hence the fireman with the limp hose:D

or 2. Its a natural gas leak and these guys are trying to shut off an isolation valve.

I can relate. Lots of debris cleanup, pruning, and the like, and for our alpine redoubt preparations for freezing weather.

The more work you do bookending winter, the less you have to do the rest of the year.

He blew a toy trumpet, a reed instrument of the type that was at the time called a "goofus."

No, I was walking though my Glendale neighborhood a few years ago and saw lights up in the park going up and down and had no idea what was happening. After I found out there was a heliport up there figured it was just the fire department(or police) doing practice landings.

It's on the south side of the park, above Cedar Grove.
https://i.postimg.cc/HWhtW83f/Mystery2018110601.pngGoogle Maps

Here's the view from the heliport of DTLA:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4488/...e43cdede_b.jpg_4140194-Edit.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

Here's what the heliport looks like:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4504/...3efb88f4_b.jpg_A230495.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

Survivors of self-propelled gun over cliff at Santa Monica hospital, 1955
 

Survivors of self-propelled gun over cliff at Santa Monica hospital, 10 July 1955. Sergeant 1/C Sol Sirkin;Dr. Clarence Eckvoll;1st Lieutenant. Carl Beaty;PFC Autry Lee Westmoreland Jr.;Esther Hothersall (nurse);M/Sergeant Maurice G Lacourse;Deputy Sheriff Jim Marshall. (Sleeve reads: A 11512).;Caption slip reads: 'Photographer: Snow. Date: 1955-07-10. Reporter: Sid Bernstein. Assignment: Survivors of self-propelled gun over cliff at Santa Monica Hospital. 29-30: Sgt. 1/C Sol Sirkin on operating table for repairs from Dr. Clarence Eckvoll. At left is 1st Lt. Carl Beaty, battalion motor officer. 31-32: Pfc. Autry Lee Westmoreland Jr, has blood pressure taken by Nurse Esther Hothersall. (cq). 83-84: M/Sgt. Maurice G La Course talks to his officers from the x-ray table.'Santa Monica; Los Angeles; California; USA. (Photo by Los Angeles Examiner/USC Libraries/Corbis via Getty Images)

Gas main breaks (burns) 8700 Santa Monica Boulevard, 1955
 

Gas main breaks (burns) 8700 Santa Monica Boulevard, 30 November 1955. Jack McGowan (Los Angeles County Fireman).;Caption slip reads: 'Photographer: Sandusky. Date: 1955-11-30. Assignment: Gas main breaks, burns. 8700 Santa Monica Boulevard. D29-30-33-34: General views of fire. D35-36: Los Angeles County Fireman Jack McGowan keeps P.E track cool with fog nozzle as flames consume escaping gas'.8700 Santa Monica Boulevard; West Hollywood; Los Angeles; California; USA. (Photo by Los Angeles Examiner/USC Libraries/Corbis via Getty Images)

That building at 8701 Santa Monica still stands.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/...e483a369_c.jpg
8701 Santa Monica, West Hollywood by Kimberly, on Flickr

I've tried to find pictures of Joseph Widney's house, but this 1931 aerial is the best I've found so far. I've arrowed the most likely building, but I may be wrong.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dneyHouse1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

We've visited this intersection before when e_r posted a teaser of the curvy Marmion Hotel (I later posted that its address was 3903 Marmion Way). Sadly, the old house is not visible.

NB. In this post I found the above photo in the Metro Library and Archive on Flickr, which dated it as November 11, 1954. The post also includes a "now" image.

Everyone remember the recent discussions here on the remaining air raid sirens in Los Angeles?

https://i.postimg.cc/wjDqyYjP/Si-REEN.jpg

Someone else has taken note of them too, a composer named Lawrence English. He's composed and recorded a 12-minute vocal piece that is being played nightly (through Sunday) over six of the remaining sirens.

Los Angeles Times: "L.A.’s air raid sirens are blaring this week. Why composer Lawrence English says you should listen"

I may attempt to capture one such "performance" on video and share it via YouTube.

location solved
 

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/yM4F4H.jpg
Whoa Noir Noir.

The ground fire was, literally, steps from my bungalow on Hancock. I can't believe I didn't recognized the area... I walked there daily.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/8Btqtp.jpg
google earth

I tried to make little red 'steps'. It didn't turn out so well.

I had no idea the modern building in the 1955 photograph was the 'Sports Erection' (actually the Sports Connection)...but people in the area called it the Sports Erection. ha ha
I went to a smaller gym a bit further down Santa Monica Blvd. (on the same/south side of the street)

this one.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/ccHcHB.jpg
my old gym card



Only the foundation of my gym is left.

South is at Top
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/jjDUID.jpg
gsv

The large building on the right is the parking garage (plus a gym floor & retail shops) for the old Sports Erection Connection (now 24hr. Fitness)

Inbetween my old gym (now just a foundation) and the large sports complex was one of the oldest lesbian bars in the city. For the life of me,
I can not remember the bar's name. I used to reach inside the bar's open door and grab the weekly papers on the way to my gym.
I believe I mentioned it before in an old post. (I, obviously, can't find the old post without the name of the bar)

Does anyone know the name of this bar?

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"Am I the only one who didn't know there was a helipad in Griffin Park?"
Thanks BGC. I thought, perhaps, I was odd man out.
Oh, and thx for sharing your photos. They're always appreciated buddy.


Here's another I found.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/g1hHSz.jpg
spiralaim

It's almost like a glorified curve.

So I guess option 2 was right?

The WeHo lesbian bar was The Palms

:previous: That's it! Thanks IloveLA.


1955
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/kmMocd.jpg
:previous: I'm thoroughly confused by this description SheriffPaul.

What, pray-tell, is a "self-propelled gun over cliff."

Are we talking..something akin to this?
https://imageshack.com/a/img921/2100/K09WHc.gif

They forgot the part about having a net at the end. LOL






SheriffPaul's description found HERE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/UO7PvV.jpggettyimages

Yep, still confused.

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A BIG location 'mystery' for tonight.

"Ries Brothers Photos of Land Around Hollywood California 1923"[/SIZE]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/ueXLIk.jpg
EBAY






#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/4be0iw.jpg

I'd say the best clue is the shape of the mountains.







The uniquely shaped mountain is in this pic as well.

#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ZoRnwE.jpg







In this one, an idyllic creek appears.

#3
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/x6Jro1.jpg


Let's take a closer look at the hacienda on the left.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/veXeUV.jpg
DETAIL, PHOTO #3

note the curved steps leading up to the house from the creek. (to the right of the tree)








#4
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/9Rg4Ic.jpg




Here's a closer look at the castle-like structure

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/qayyA8.jpg
DETAIL PHOTO#4

also note the parked cars.




and the residence across the creek.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/OJjavA.jpg
DETAIL, PHOTO#4

note the large residence in the distance as well.








#5
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Iyu0iC.jpg

not much to see here.








And lastly, #6

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/4CrRUu.jpg

At first glance, the structure in the foreground appears to be a barn, but I think it's being used for other purposes as well.



For one thing, there are flues.....too many flues.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/73Fhu9.jpg
DETAIL PHOTO #6

And a barn usually doesn't have windows on the second floor. That's where the hayloft is located.


All photos at ebay

That's Mount Lee (aka, home of the Hollywood Sign):

https://i.imgur.com/Uicb4vb.jpg

The description of the photos is inaccurate, however - the photos weren't taken “around Hollywood”, but from the Valley. In other words, the Hollywood Sign sits on the other side of the mountain.

To get that exact view of Mt. Lee, one must be in Toluca Lake:

https://i.imgur.com/0cgJrd0.jpg

LINK TO SCENE ON GOOGLE MAPS

I therefore suspect that the body of water shown in the photos is actually Toluca Lake itself. In the screenshot below, you can see that that Toluca Lake falls directly in the line-of-sight that one must view to see Mt. Lee from that angle.

https://i.imgur.com/cxQWCcD.jpg

a self propelled gun is a large gun mounted on a heavy truck or a tank-like vehicle. The category would also include "railroad guns" which were mounted to rail cars.

Probably a M41, like this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...iage_M41_1.JPG

Could be the later M44:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...4_Howitzer.jpg

If the latter, it would have been brand new :(

Must have been a hell of a ride down that hill.

Cheers,

Earl

Was just trying to figure out these two pictures.

This is Toluca Lake in 1927, four years later than the pictures.

https://i.imgur.com/5HZKkVL.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu - Flight C_113, Frame 159


Would this equate to where the pictures might have been shot - # 3 looking east and # 4 looking west with the Lakeside Golf Club parking area to the left of the 1923 picture?

:shrug:

The mountain in the background of your car ad post has the same shape, my guess(though I've not nailed down the exact location) is that ad was shot in the Hollywoodland(ridges above Beachwood canyon) development.

If you can see the wreckage, it's a tank or some type of self-propelled gun.

Since that GSV view of the vacant lot where your gym used to be was taken in 2017, construction is well underway on a mixed use 3-4 story building in that spot. There are plans
for a similar building (aren't they all) to be built almost directly across the street.

There's also a nice shot of The Palms bar (identified) in the GSV history view.

Since we are in this area, last week I discovered the following three aerials taken in February of 1955. (The fire photos are November, 1955.)
They are all focused a little to the east of the above locations. I believe the Tropicana Motel opened in 1955. (A Los Angeles magazine article
I just looked up said it was built in the 1940's!) The captions refer to the curved street as "Ramada Drive". I have never heard that street
called that before and cannot find any period map listing with that street name. :shrug:


https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...XT=&DMROTATE=0

Caption: Aerial view of Tropicana Motor Hotel, located at 8585 Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood; view is looking northwest.
The U-shaped hotel sits on the intersection of Santa Monica Blvd (running horizontally) and Ramada Drive (curved street running
behind the hotel). The smaller street in the forefront (left corner to mid-photo) is West Knoll Drive. Photograph dated February 12, 1955.


https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...XT=&DMROTATE=0

Caption: Close-up view of Tropicana Motor Hotel, located at 8585 Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood; view is looking north.


https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...XT=&DMROTATE=0

Caption: Aerial view of Tropicana Motor Hotel, located at 8585 Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood; view is looking northeast.
The U-shaped hotel sits on the intersection of Santa Monica Blvd (running horizontally) and Ramada Drive (curved street running
behind the hotel). The street running vertically on the extreme right is N. La Cienega Boulevard. Photograph dated February 12, 1955.
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To the left of the motel, in the bottom photo for example, I am curious about that grouping of seemingly multi-level little buildings, or apartments?,
on the corner. It just looks like an interesting design. Were the P.E. cars still running in 1955? Because I'm familiar with the street I'm also curious
as to what some of the businesses are.

The photos are from the Kelly-Holiday Mid-Century Aerial Photo Collection on LAPL.

:previous:

"8701" is obviously no stranger to NLA. ;)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=34826

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=46170

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...t.png~original

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...c.png~original

My take is petroleum fumes from undergraound
IIRC similar things happened in the Fairfax area not too many years ago

Hey y'all, got a favor to ask. I'm in need of an image of the York Theater. The only one that exists is this one

http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1311204256

and as you can see, it's not image of it at all (except the roof sign).

Now, I collect, and have a ton of stuff that's not on the internet. One thing I don't have is an image of the York. Which is now needed for a good cause. It won't show up on the internet (unless you want it to). Please send me a PM if you have an image of the York, and thanks in advance!

Absolutely Scott Charles. Thank you. :)
:previous: I think you are spot on Noir Noir.

Have you tried looking for the house that resembles a castle?

this one
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/kJhMNF.jpg
DETAIL of photo #4

I tried...but didn't had any luck.






unless....this is it [modified], but I highly doubt it.

WEST is at the TOP
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/iM2P1K.jpg
Check it out HERE

I believe the stream used to run just to the right of the property. [when the lake natural*]

*today the lake has an asphalt bottom. :yuck:


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Yesterday, I came across this interesting photograph.[on Ebay]

"1920s Los Angeles Photograph Luckhaus Studio Aerial Street Scene With Streetcar."

cropped, to appear straight
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/BFjJLR.jpg
Check it out on EBAY



The seller included this detail. (not sure why it's greenish)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/DBklNj.jpg


the whole pic as seen on ebay.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/WwCwf6.jpg
EBAY

which includes the shadow of a mystery house along the bottom.




I almost forgot....

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/WpjXwM.jpg
the photographer's stamp
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Here's one more photograph for this evening.

Depression Era:

"Hundreds of the unemployed gather outside the Biltmore Hotel while the California Relief Commission was meeting inside."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/0Hdugm.jpg
EBAY

"Police were summoned as the marchers attempted to enter the hotel." [1935]



info / It's difficult to read.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/kuA37p.jpg

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That's shot of Fort Moore hill from atop the Hall of Justice, up Spring:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4904/...afac0c34_h.jpg

At the upper right in the eBay pic one sees the backs of the remaining houses (e.g., Hancock Banning's, Milo Baker's) on the east side of Broadway, and below, once, Buena Vista street ran north, now just some terraced slices in the hill.