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Martin Pal Jan 14, 2015 9:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6874668)
The 1956 CD lists Nancy's ladies wear store just along the street at 6340 Hollywood Boulevard. In 1956, 6366 Hollywood Boulevard was a ladies wear store named Mimi's. Maybe the "S" belongs to that store. Incidentally, both Nancy's and Mimi's appear at 6366 in the 1960 CD.

I'm a bit confused...the first photo you posted of "Nancy's" isn't specifically dated, but it's in this location. I posted one of Nancy's, a screencap of a 1937 film, Big City, at the same location. Is it just a matter that the addresses were changed, but not the location? :shrug:

HossC Jan 14, 2015 10:00 PM

:previous:

I don't have any answers (yet), but here's a little more info.

Nancy's and Mimi's are listed at 6340 and 6366 Hollywood Boulevard respectively in the 1942 CD (they appear as Nancy's Dress Shop and Mimi's Dress Shop). 6340 is immediately east of Ivar Avenue.

Meanwhile, in the 1938 CD (the nearest after the 1937 screengrab below), 6366 Hollywood Boulevard was home to a women's clothing store called Betty Blanc & Co. Also in the 1938 CD, 6340 Hollywood Boulevard was the address of I Magnin & Co. The Hollywood Citizen Stationery Store in the screengrab below is right where we'd expect it at 6362 Hollywood Boulevard. They managed to get the phone number Hollywood 1234. That doesn't explain how Nancy's shows up in a 1937 movie in a location where it won't be listed until about 20 years later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6870530)

Here's the I Magnin's store from an earlier post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6206989)

I Magnin's at 6340 Hollywood Blvd. (Ivar Ave)

Circa, 1930 An ominous sky portending . . .
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3JC8VQYL5V.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3JC8VQYL5V.jpg


ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2015 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6874675)
Here's a much closer view of the Hotel Buster/Apartments building. When this picture was taken, 141½ N Broadway was known as Franklin House.
The circular/triangular detail in the gable doesn't seem to appear on the other side.

This is a much better view of the Franklin (Buster) Apartment building HossC.
I thought the 'circular/triangular detail' was made of slats for ventilating the attic. (but like you said, there isn't one on the other side, so maybe not)

posted earlier by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/3mD1MZ.jpg

Is that a person leaning out the window?

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fhammon Jan 14, 2015 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6874884)
Is that a person leaning out the window?
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I believe it's a potted plant on an outdoor shelf.

HossC Jan 14, 2015 11:23 PM

:previous:

I agree. I think it's just a row of pot plants with the largest on the right. I may be wrong, but the window appears to be closed.


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I managed to find a picture of Nancy's at the 6340 Hollywood address. LAPL don't date this image, but waterandpower.org have decided that it's circa 1940. On the right, the store that had been/would become (?) Nancy's is called Dinel's. I couldn't find it in the CDs, but the window display suggests that it also sold women's clothes. The picture also shows Thrifty, the Hollywood Beauty College, Schwabs, Western Union and the Hollywood Citizen Stationery Store.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...adiesWear2.jpg
LAPL

rbpjr Jan 14, 2015 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6784107)
Well, obviously I agree. It is a very evocative image. It's hard to look at
these Depression-era, large format pictures and not fall into some
wool-gathering of our own. Most of us heard the stories from our parents
and aunts and uncles. In this case, I think a couple of things are going
on. First, to my eye, the camp appears to be emptying out. It
being November, harvesting has largely ended with the almond crop
(still small in 1936) either in or mostly so, the peach, plum and nectarines
are all boxed and gone, cotton will be done unless late this year and
table grape production for Kern County is still very modest but, in any
event, would be over by November. These fields we can see are pretty
barren, it doesn't look to me as though they've been in production this
year. Maybe, but I don't think so. Some pruning and brush clearance would
be going on but the labor-intensive part of the year is over and the bulk of
the migrant work force will have moved on to Imperial Valley. (1) This
looks like some people just out for a walk, maybe with a couple of
kids. Impossible to know what awaits around that curve, likely more
hard times. (2) Could be a field boss driving out on the week-end to tell
these guys where to show up Monday morning, maybe they are going
to prune some fruit trees, maybe one of them is a good mechanic and
he's going to help put equipment in order and winter storage (very
mild winters here in Kern County). (3) No, I don't think any of the
government camps distributed much food, maybe none. But providing
this kind of area helped with general cleanliness, keeping at least some of
the food and trash out of the tents. (4) Yep. (5) Check. (6) No idea.
Probably a trick of the light. (7) This looks like farm equipment to me. So
this would belong to the local farm owner. Maybe the guy in the car (no. 2)
is hiring one of these guys to wrestle a new (or used) tire onto that rim
for fifty cents. (8) Mostly children worked, if they were able. This is
another reason I think this may be a week-end shot. (9) This could be
the camp manager giving a quick trim to a guy who's got a shot at a
more permanent job or the local farm owner didn't want to drive all the
way into town and stopped by for the haircut. The little boy in the white
shirt and tie(!) is a mystery isn't he. Maybe his dad is the barber and
they drive out on the week-ends to give away haircuts. Such things
happened. I hope he paid attention, the lessons which surrounded him on
this day were priceless.

I lived in Bakersfield with my family around 1935-45 and as a youngster I remember my folks talking about the "Okies" and the "hobos". We lived on 19th street not from the "roundhouse" near the tracks...sometimes the "hobos" who had a campsite there would wander into our neighborhood looking for temp work or a handout. No one considered them dangerous or menacing...times have changed.

ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2015 11:52 PM

Two LARY street-cars in front of the Kennedy Name Plate Co. at 4509 Pacific Blvd. in Vernon. (looks like one is off the tracks)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/4Zcyyv.jpg
ebay

The Kennedy Name Plate Co. is still in business and at the same location!

Here's an earlier post showing black and white 'before and after' photographs of the Kennedy Name Plate Co. and street-cars.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20836

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ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 12:39 AM

A sad headline in today's Los Angeles Times.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/SlJTt7.png
http://www.latimes.com/

"Ray Bradbury lived in his 1937 Cheviot Hills home for more than 50 years. After the author of "Fahrenheit 451" died in 2012 the house was readied for sale."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/neoCw3.png
loopnet


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/xeyHiv.png
loopnet

"The home was filled with original details, such as built-in bookcases, that surrounded Bradbury for much of his life.
The next owner could be proud to live with the echo of Bradbury, the beloved science fiction writer who advised both Walt Disney and NASA."

Or not.

The home which was purchased for $1.76 million dollars is being torn down.
A permit for demolition was issued Dec. 30th."


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/2nMbqZ.png
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/0..._right_now.php


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/igfnAa.png
http://la.curbed.com/


I found these comments touching. (there were many more)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/LAL2Qr.png
http://laist.com/


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...904/Kqbiun.png
http://la.curbed.com/


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/Cz19J4.png
http://la.curbed.com/

And who is tearing it down?

California starchitect Thom Mayne, of the firm Morphosis. Unbelievable

Read more about it here:
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/0..._right_now.php

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ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 1:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6870530)
This is a screencap of a 1937 film called BIG CITY, starring Luise Rainer and Spencer Tracy. It show's the corner of Hollywood Blvd. and Cosmo Street.
Nancy's is visible there and across Cosmo Street a place called Delphene's. The film, by the way, is set in New York City.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ug92C-xtJK...9.28.27+PM.pngWarner Home Video

Martin_Pal, if the film is set in New York City, why would the film makers choose a corner that has a 'Hollywood Citizen' sign?

...or did they travel to Hollywood in the film?
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fhammon Jan 15, 2015 1:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875036)
A sad headline in today's Los Angeles Times.

"Ray Bradbury lived in his 1937 Cheviot Hills home for more than 50 years. After the author of "Fahrenheit 451" died in 2012 the house was readied for sale."


The home which was purchased for $1.76 million dollars is being torn down.
A permit for demolition was issued Dec. 30th."

His basement writing room:

https://assets-mwsmedia.netdna-ssl.c...ent_office.png https://www.mattselznick.com/scribtotum/ray-bradbury/

With his wife Maggie in 1970:

http://www.trbimg.com/img-537bfc39/t...01/750/750x422http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketc...520-story.html

Albany NY Jan 15, 2015 1:56 AM

The facts behind the anonymous faces.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6874190)
Los Angeles family 1914.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/Cj4GHm.jpg
ebay

"High school sweethearts from Boyle Heights, Anne McCorkell and Guy Morley who both lived in Boyle Heights
and some years after their marriage with their two sons Herbert and Franklyn."
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You know, it's truly amazing what you can find within just a few minutes on the internet.
The couple above were married in 1911.
Guy F. Morley was born in 1892 in Oregon, and died in 1962 in San Bernardino.
Anne E. McCorkell was born in Upper Sandusky, Ohio, on December 8, 1893, and died on May 4, 1982 in Los Angeles.
Both are buried at Inglewood Park Cemetery.

http://imageshack.com/a/img912/8600/63utdR.jpg

Their older son, Herbert Guy Morley, was born February 11, 1914 and died on August 7, 1984. He turned into a nice looking fellow.

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/7589/TxzNg1.jpg

Their younger son, Franklyn James Morley, was born on August 3, 1915, and died on April 23, 1992.
Ethereal_reality's photo above was more likely from around 1920-21.
Boy, young Franklyn doesn't look too happy, does he?

ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 2:10 AM

:previous: That is amazing Albany.
I'm really impressed you found a photograph of Guy and Anne's final resting place. (and the studio portrait of Herbert)

And yes, Franklyn was not a happy camper in that family snapshot.

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ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 2:45 AM

A rare 1910 RPPC on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...item566f20a64c

"Los Angeles Air Show Paulhan & Roy Knabensnue 1910 RPPC Photo"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/92n4wK.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOS-ANGELES-...item566f20a64c

reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/9e2NEc.jpg

I like how someone simply wrote, "Saw both of these." I guess they weren't too impressed.


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ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 2:56 AM

I just found this a few minutes ago on ebay. -It's somewhat of a strange looking make & model.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/Mmiy0W.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

:previous:There's more front than there is a back. (where are they suppose put the ladder? ;))


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/OzGNCR.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

Off the top of my head I can't remember where Engine House #50 was located.

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Tetsu Jan 15, 2015 3:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6874084)
Tetsu, I enjoyed your GSV tour of Eagle Rock Boulevard between Ave. 34 & Ave. 35. That's quite an interesting little stretch.

I especially liked (loved) this building. (I didn't see it in my vintage photograph until you pointed it out)

originally posted by Tetsu
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...912/04QnTc.png
GSV



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/DUhfsl.png
gsv

...as well as the little Verdugo Hardware store with the massive faux "columns".
Have you ever gone in that store? I wonder if there are any art deco touches in the interior. (or maybe they have a framed vintage photo of the building hanging behind the counter) -wishful thinking I know.

Never been inside Verdugo Hardware, but that would be awesome if they had such a framed photo on the wall!

As for the other building, I love it too and it's definitely the most unique of the bunch. I wonder who the architect was? It's probably wishful thinking but the ornate plaster detailing makes me want to believe that it's a Morgan, Walls, & Clements like the Chapman Market.

https://www.laconservancy.org/sites/...?itok=dcIjqaZ2LA Conservancy

Like I said, probably wishful thinking. :shrug:

Earl Boebert Jan 15, 2015 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875202)
I just found this a few minutes ago on ebay. -It's somewhat of a strange looking make & model.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/Mmiy0W.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

:previous:There's more front than there is a back. (where are they suppose put the ladder?)


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/OzGNCR.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

Off the top of my head I can't remember where Engine House #50 was located.

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Looks like a pumper, not a ladder truck.

Cheers,

Earl

fhammon Jan 15, 2015 4:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6874084)

It reminds me of this building on La Brea and Edgewood about a mile north of the 10 fwy. I've driven by it hundreds of times over the years and always wished somebody could do something better with it as far as paint and restoration goes. It looks like it's from the same period but perhaps a little more faux and gimmicky looking and maybe a little newer but it has a certain dignity about it. I'd love to see an older, norish photo of it.

http://i62.tinypic.com/5amg3m.jpg

Otis Criblecoblis Jan 15, 2015 4:41 AM

Demolition Permit Issued for Norms La Cienega
 
I realize this is not a bit noirish, but it is a matter of great importance to the denizens of this thread nonetheless.

A demolition permit has been issued for the neato Googie-esque Norms Restaurant location on La Cienega.

Here are the details, from the LA Conservancy site:

https://www.laconservancy.org/issues...ga-coffee-shop

The family that owned Norms recently sold it. They took pains to sell to someone who would "keep the faith," but it seems to me that immediately to seek to tear down their most iconic location does not bode well.

Those Who Squirm! Jan 15, 2015 6:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6873516)
below: I could use some help figuring out the location of this photo. (I don't think we've seen it on NLA; I found it several nights ago on ebay)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...904/dF7rx5.jpg
ebay


Hey, thanks for the information on maintenance car #9203 Ed_Workman & HossC. I appreciate the help.
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(Sorry if this has already been identified)

I could be way off base, but I'm getting a very strong West L.A. feel here. No, I can't identify any of the buildings, but I lived at the corner of Barrington and Ohio Avenues for over a dozen years. Before that I went to HS in the same neighborhood, although much longer ago, and I feel like I remember some of the buildings, which would have since been remodeled or replaced beyond recognition.

Sorry I can't do any better.

Those Who Squirm! Jan 15, 2015 7:03 AM

And here we have the death of the middle class in the great cities of America. This house was undoubtedly much, much too tiny for the sort of people who can afford Cheviot Hills property today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875036)
A sad headline in today's Los Angeles Times.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/SlJTt7.png
http://www.latimes.com/

"Ray Bradbury lived in his 1937 Cheviot Hills home for more than 50 years. After the author of "Fahrenheit 451" died in 2012 the house was readied for sale."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/neoCw3.png
loopnet


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/xeyHiv.png
loopnet

"The home was filled with original details, such as built-in bookcases, that surrounded Bradbury for much of his life.
The next owner could be proud to live with the echo of Bradbury, the beloved science fiction writer who advised both Walt Disney and NASA."

Or not.

The home which was purchased for $1.76 million dollars is being torn down.
A permit for demolition was issued Dec. 30th."


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/2nMbqZ.png
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/0..._right_now.php


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/igfnAa.png
http://la.curbed.com/


I found these comments touching. (there were many more)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/LAL2Qr.png
http://laist.com/


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...904/Kqbiun.png
http://la.curbed.com/


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/Cz19J4.png
http://la.curbed.com/

And who is tearing it down?

California starchitect Thom Mayne, of the firm Morphosis. Unbelievable

Read more about it here:
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/0..._right_now.php

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C. King Jan 15, 2015 7:37 AM

LAFD Station 50
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875202)
I just found this a few minutes ago on ebay. -It's somewhat of a strange looking make & model.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/Mmiy0W.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

:previous:There's more front than there is a back. (where are they suppose put the ladder?)


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/OzGNCR.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-LOS-ANG...item566f6300f6

Off the top of my head I can't remember where Engine House #50 was located.

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Station 50 at the time this was taken, was on what is now W. 11th Place. the following is from lafire.com

Fire Station 50
1524 Winfield Place
(Winfield changed to W. 11th Pl.)

Station is long gone.

Station Closed in 1950. Reopened in 1958 at 3036 Fletcher Dr in Glassell Park, just east of the recently discussed Van de Kamps Bakery.

The Engine is a 1938 American La France Pumper. Constructed in Elmira NY. Sad to say that ALF closed their doors for good on January 17th of last year, after having roots that go back 175 years.

Hope that helps,

Casey

oldstuff Jan 15, 2015 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 6875302)
It reminds me of this building on La Brea and Edgewood about a mile north of the 10 fwy. I've driven by it hundreds of times over the years and always wished somebody could do something better with it as far as paint and restoration goes. It looks like it's from the same period but perhaps a little more faux and gimmicky looking and maybe a little newer but it has a certain dignity about it. I'd love to see an older, norish photo of it.

http://i62.tinypic.com/5amg3m.jpg

There is also another, very similar building, built around the same time, which is just to the left of the entrance gates to Warner Brothers offices ( the old building) on Olive in Burbank. I recall there being some kind of retail stores in there as late as maybe the early 70's but now it appears to be offices for Warners. It is built with a rounded corner, some small "porthole" windows on one side, a Spanish tile roof, balconies on at least the street side and a small cupola with a weather vane. I can't find an earlier picture of it, and it has been remodeled fairly recently with some of the more elaborate details removed.

ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 4:22 PM

Thanks for the information on LAFD station #50 C. King.
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I came across this mid-sized apparatus last night on ebay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/5Lqe12.jpg

The sellers description is thus = "Los Angeles County Crown Firecoach Engine Apparatus Madderom."
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ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 4:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 6875855)
There is also another, very similar building, built around the same time, which is just to the left of the entrance gates to Warner Brothers offices ( the old building) on Olive in Burbank. I recall there being some kind of retail stores in there as late as maybe the early 70's but now it appears to be offices for Warners. It is built with a rounded corner, some small "porthole" windows on one side, a Spanish tile roof, balconies on at least the street side and a small cupola with a weather vane. I can't find an earlier picture of it, and it has been remodeled fairly recently with some of the more elaborate details removed.

Is this the building oldstuff?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/AETiL6.png
GSV

I wonder what the statue/weathervane is on top? It looks like an Indian holding a scalp.
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EDIT:

I think it might be Bugs Bunny. lol

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/FjTgK6.png
detail/GSV
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HossC Jan 15, 2015 6:05 PM

:previous:

It is Bugs Bunny, and in full color too!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ugsBunnyWB.jpg
ltenney1225 on flickr

ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 7:34 PM

Here's an excellent view of Alameda and Main Streets in 1955.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/KkRVEb.jpg
ebay

Halfway down the block is the Italian Hall which still stands at Main Street and E. Cesar E. Chavez Avenue
The other buildings in the center of the photograph (and on this side of the Italian Hall) have been wiped out by a Chevron Station.
I believe the sign on the building (above the street-car) says Union Hotel and Apts.
Does anyone know some history on the building on the corner (in the center) where Alameda & Main meet?
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Here's the scene today. That whole triangle wiped out. :(

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/PKFKqB.png
GSV
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ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 7:54 PM

Tetsu, I looked down Ave. 34 between the old Repossessed Furniture and Basta's Market buildings.

view from Eagle Rock Blvd.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/3RpkhI.png


I noticed an interesting blade sign in the shape of an arrow.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/LuktV1.png
GSV detail

It's a pretty cool vintage sign, and I imagine it used to have neon.
It would be great to... #1 steal it (I'm kidding), #2 refurbish it and replace the original neon, #3 hang it in my loft (if I had a loft ;))
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ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 8:18 PM

Stylish Mother and child on the grounds of the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/uv6tM6.jpg
old file of mine / possibly ebay
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HossC Jan 15, 2015 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6876239)

Here's an excellent view of Alameda and Main Streets in 1955.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/KkRVEb.jpg
ebay

I posted this color picture of the Union Hotel Rooms last June. It looks like the buildings closer to the Alameda and Main intersection had already gone by 1956, only one year after the picture above. The full post includes a couple of other angles and "then and now" comparisons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6633495)

HDL incorrectly title this picture as "Macy and Alameda Streets". Macy Street, the old name of East Cesar E Chavez Avenue, is where the bus is turning, but it's North Main Street that dominates the picture (Alameda is just out of shot to the left). This picture shows the building above in June 1956 - not long before demolition.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cyAlameda2.jpg
Huntington Digital Library


HossC Jan 15, 2015 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6876282)

I noticed an interesting blade sign in the shape of an arrow.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/LuktV1.png
GSV detail

It's a pretty cool vintage sign, and I imagine it used to have neon.
It would be great to... #1 steal it (I'm kidding), #2 refurbish it and replace the original neon, #3 hang it in my loft (if I had a loft ;))

A bit of Googling indicates that the weathered exterior signage hides a modern recording studio. Although the website for Avenue 34 Studios doesn't list an address, several other sites mention 2712 W Avenue 34. Good news, e_r - they have working neon on the inside!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...e34Studios.jpg
www.facebook.com

ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 9:13 PM

:previous: I had no idea! I thought that place was vacant. -actually I thought the whole street was vacant.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/axwkp2.png
GSV
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ethereal_reality Jan 15, 2015 9:43 PM

Wig-Wag, I found another photograph of that protester beetle.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/48QXM1.jpg
ebay

:previous: I searched for this corner on GSV, but couldn't find where Maple intersects with 7th Street. I'm not sure what I was doing wrong
I wanted to see if the building that housed Charlie's (and furnished rooms upstairs) was still standing. It looks especially L.A. 'noirish' in this photograph.


The first photograph of the beetle I posted actually has Wig_Wag in it. See it here.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=25155
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*Jack, I re-visited ebay to get the link to the photo in case you wanted to buy it, but I couldn't located it.
I'm pretty sure it had 4 days left on the auction.
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HossC Jan 15, 2015 10:22 PM

:previous:

This is the intersection where Charlie's 10 and 15 once stood at 239 E 7th Street. I think it's the same building, although it's been modified.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA7thMaple.jpg
GSV

You were right about the eBay listing, e_r. There's still just over four days left. The current bidding is at $6:

Los Angeles MTA VW "Bug" Protest Car ahead of 3094 PCC orig 620 Rect.B&W neg

Wig-Wag Jan 15, 2015 10:23 PM

LATL 5 Line Supplementary Location ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 6875414)
(Sorry if this has already been identified)

I could be way off base, but I'm getting a very strong West L.A. feel here. No, I can't identify any of the buildings, but I lived at the corner of Barrington and Ohio Avenues for over a dozen years. Before that I went to HS in the same neighborhood, although much longer ago, and I feel like I remember some of the buildings, which would have since been remodeled or replaced beyond recognition.

Sorry I can't do any better.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...904/dF7rx5.jpg
ebay

As noted in HossC's post, this is the end of the Los Angeles Transit Lines No.5 line at Colorado and Eaglerock Boulevards after it was cut back from Colorado and Townsend on April 18, 1948. The building to what is now front of the streetcar (note the door open to the safety island and trailing trolley pole) is still with us today and stands one half block down at the intersection of Eaglerock and Merton.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0f5743bf.jpg

"Remnants of the 5 Line are captured in this image dated June 15, 1948, at Townsend Avenue as part of the Los Angeles Transit Lines' abandonment."

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...ps86224ab0.jpg

This view shows the removal of the tracks at Colorado and Townsend after the the line was cut back to Colorado and Eagle Rock Boulevards on April 18, 1948. The view looks east on Colorado boulevard. Note the California Hwy 134 sign on the pole to the extreme right.

The 5 Line was converted to buses on May 21, 1955.

Cheers,
Jack

Lorendoc Jan 15, 2015 10:26 PM

Car identification question
 
Hello to all the car experts here, I was wondering if you might have a guesstimate for the model year of the following:

http://i.imgur.com/UmK3NdN.jpg

...with many apologies for the pixellation.

I am (with some help from HossC) trying to locate one of e_r's Yellow Cars from a few pages ago. I am not happy with my original suggestion, and knowing the date (or at least a lower limit for the date) would help my searches through the CDs. Thanks in advance!

HossC Jan 15, 2015 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6870530)

This is a screencap of a 1937 film called BIG CITY, starring Luise Rainer and Spencer Tracy. It show's the corner of Hollywood Blvd. and Cosmo Street. Nancy's is visible there and across Cosmo Street a place called Delphene's. The film, by the way, is set in New York City.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ug92C-xtJK...9.28.27+PM.pngWarner Home Video

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875079)

Martin_Pal, if the film is set in New York City, why would the film makers choose a corner that has a 'Hollywood Citizen' sign?

...or did they travel to Hollywood in the film?

The car chase occurs slightly over 10 minutes before the end of the movie. It starts off in New York (Jack Dempsey's, Trans-Lux Theatre etc.), but then switches to Los Angeles. This shot at Hollywood and Ivar shows the Taft Building in the background, although the "Broadway Hollywood" sign isn't illuminated. On the right is the I Magnin building. The streets seem to be lined with people watching the chase being filmed.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LABigCity.jpg
MGM Home Video

On a sad note, one of the stars of 'Big City', Luise Rainer, died just over two weeks ago (12/30/14). She was 104!

CityBoyDoug Jan 15, 2015 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6876535)
The car chase occurs slightly over 10 minutes before the end of the movie. It starts off in New York (Jack Dempsey's, Trans-Lux Theatre etc.), but then switches to Los Angeles. This shot at Hollywood and Ivar shows the Taft Building in the background, although the "Broadway Hollywood" sign isn't illuminated. On the right is the I Magnin building. The streets seem to be lined with people watching the chase being filmed.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LABigCity.jpg
MGM Home Video

On a sad note, one of the stars of 'Big City', Luise Rainer, died just over two weeks ago (12/30/14). She was 104!

Luise Rainer
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psebd5a1cf.jpg
Google img.

Martin Pal Jan 16, 2015 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875079)
Martin_Pal, if the film is set in New York City, why would the film makers choose a corner that has a 'Hollywood Citizen' sign?

...or did they travel to Hollywood in the film?
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***I see HossC answered...

Probably just one of those things they thought no one would really notice, although the Hollywood Broadway sign isn't lit, as HossC pointed out. It's a fast moving chase scene. Maybe they had some kind of Hollywood stores in New York like we have New York Deli's and the like.

I was watching Cagney & Lacy once (set in New York) and a bus came by on the scene that advertised it going to "Los Angeles Street." Quite a journey!

C. King Jan 16, 2015 1:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6875858)
Thanks for the information on LAFD station #50 C. King.
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I came across this mid-sized apparatus last night on ebay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/5Lqe12.jpg

The sellers description is thus = "Los Angeles County Crown Firecoach Engine Apparatus Madderom."
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Early 60's Crown Firecoach sitting in front of its station at 3907 W. 54th St. in the View Park section of town. Here is the station, which is still active, even though it probably doesn't look like it.

http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...re/lacfs38.jpg
photo by me

The Firecoach was a victim of Crown's own doing. They were so well built, they hardly ever broke down. Crown Coach closed its doors in the mid 80's. Crown also built the iconic Crown school buses on the west coast as well. They were located southeast of downtown LA.

Well known photographer in the firebuffing world, Madderom refers to Chuck Madderom.

ethereal_reality Jan 16, 2015 1:16 AM

:previous: -thanks for the interesting information C. King. That's quite a forlorn looking station.
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After a rudimentary search on NLA, I don't believe we've seen this map before.

Prudent Beaudry's 1868 map showcasing five different tracts of land, all owned by Mr. Beaudry.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/0N3EAg.jpg
http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/c...udrys-1868-la/

In an accompanying article, titled "L.A.'s Two Lost Hilltop Gardens", Beaudry's two parks are discussed. (with many details I wasn't aware of)
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...s-gardens.html

"To advertise the potential of his hilltop tracts, in early 1870s Prudence Beaudry transformed two barren knolls into Bellevue Terrace and Beaudry Park, Edenic landscapes that, though privately owned, welcomed the public to visit."

"Vistas were certainly the highlight of Bellevue Terrace. Perched atop a 70 foot hill that no longer exists (it's the site of the Central Library today), this 6.5 acre garden overlooked the growing city below and the pastoral countryside beyond. Clear days offered glimpses of the Pacific. But there were spectacles inside the garden too. High-pressure hoses cast water high into the air -"a refreshing sight" in the words of Los Angeles Herald scribe. And within the garden's eucalypus-lined perimeter, a grove of some 500 fruit-bearing orange and lime trees stood in an orderly grid. The Austrian prince and naturalist Ludwig Salvador visited in 1876 and left thoroughly enchanted, describing Bellevue Terrace as "a perfect jewel."

"Further west was Beaudry Park. The 8-acre private reserve rose above the canyon that today carries Sunset Boulevard between the city's downtown and Echo Park districts.
Here Beaudry's landscape gardener, Francis Tamiet, planted a veritable forest of fruit and ornamental trees: 475 oranges, 2,600 Mexican limes, 1,200 gums, 1,000 cypresses, and 100 Monterey pines."

"Bellevue Terrace and Beaudry Park might have become crown jewels of Los Angeles' parks system, but Los Angeles in the 1870s possessed only the rudiments of an organized public parks movement. Ultimately, Beaudry placed his two gardens on the market soon after he liquidated the surrounding real estate tracts. In 1881 the state purchased Belleview Terrace for the site of the California State Normal School, a teaching college that eventually became UCLA. When the Los Angeles Central Library replaced the college in 1926, construction crews graded the hill out of existence."

"Beaudry Park, meanwhile, was purchased in 1883 by the Sisters of Charity. On that site (now occupied by the Elysium apartment building and Holy Hill Community Church) the sisters placed their new infirmary, repurposing Beaudry's fruit trees and cypresses into a soothing backdrop for their patients."



below is a view of Beaudry Park. (circular...at the bottom. -if you look closely, it's labeled as Park)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/A5bjsy.png
http://www.loc.gov/resource/g4364l.pm000260/

Bellevue Terrace is visible in the map at the top.
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Tetsu Jan 16, 2015 2:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6876282)
Tetsu, I looked down Ave. 34 between the old Repossessed Furniture and Basta's Market buildings.

view from Eagle Rock Blvd.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/3RpkhI.png


I noticed an interesting blade sign in the shape of an arrow.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/LuktV1.png
GSV detail

It's a pretty cool vintage sign, and I imagine it used to have neon.
It would be great to... #1 steal it (I'm kidding), #2 refurbish it and replace the original neon, #3 hang it in my loft (if I had a loft ;))
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That is a cool sign. And thanks to HossC for figuring out that it's actually a modern recording studio. I'm guessing the sign itself is truly vintage, and not just "weathered" to look the part?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/axwkp2.pngGSV

Indeed, the whole block looks vacant, though I know for sure that the building at the SW corner of Verdugo Road & Avenue 34 (the little white building at the far left of the screen shot above) is currently used as storage for the Verdugo Bar at the NE corner.

C. King Jan 16, 2015 2:30 AM

Nancy's
 
Just by a stroke of luck, I found a vid of one those travelogues that they produced back in the 40's and 50's. It shows Nancy's starting at about the 3:20 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a5WxgysHO4

ethereal_reality Jan 16, 2015 2:32 AM

:previous: Good eye C. King!!

Here's a screengrab of it.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...538/sDLowF.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a5WxgysHO4



-Yet another transit photograph I came across on ebay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/uQuxFc.jpg
ebay

-note that the rails unceremoniously stop at this point.
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CityBoyDoug Jan 16, 2015 3:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6876861)
:previous: Good eye C. King!!
-Yet another transit photograph I came across on ebay.
-note that the rails unceremoniously stop at this point.
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ER...these transit photos are fantastic and so clear. Please post more if you find some.

Doug


Poignant detail from late 1940s photo posted by ER.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps3b28db90.jpg
ebay ~ detail

C. King Jan 16, 2015 3:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6876861)
:previous: Good eye C. King!!

Here's a screengrab of it.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...538/sDLowF.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a5WxgysHO4



-Yet another transit photograph I came across on ebay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/uQuxFc.jpg
ebay

-note that the rails unceremoniously stop at this point.
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This is looking west along Colorado from Townsend in Eagle Rock. The Hardware store on the left is still there. Named Tritch's Hardware. Texaco station on the left is now a motorcycle repair shop.

HossC Jan 16, 2015 3:21 AM

:previous:

You beat me to it, C. King. Here's roughly the same view today looking west along Colorado.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...oTownsend2.jpg
GSV

It's pretty much a reverse view of this picture, taken at the same intersection.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6873535)


CityBoyDoug Jan 16, 2015 5:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6876915)
:previous:

You beat me to it, C. King. Here's roughly the same view today looking west along Colorado.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...oTownsend2.jpg
GSV

It's pretty much a reverse view of this picture, taken at the same intersection.

Here's a similar view of HossC photo above. Different lenses certainly can take different photos.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps1be8c47b.jpg
GSV
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps8369058a.jpg
GSV

MartinTurnbull Jan 16, 2015 5:46 AM

Los Angeles - 1887 - as seen from a hot air balloon
 
I just came across this remarkable photo on Pinterest. I don't remember seeing it before.

LOS ANGELES, 1887 -- This photograph of the fledgling town of Los Angeles was taken from a hot-air balloon on June 26, 1887. Floating 9,000 feet above the city in a hot-air balloon, photographer Edwin H. Husher tilted his camera over the basket’s edge to capture images of Los Angeles. The voyage was part of a publicity stunt orchestrated by William Randolph Hearst designed to sell newspaper advertising and to top a similar hot-air balloon stunt by Hearst’s archrival Joseph Pulitzer.

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...81ebb9c46a.jpg

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/535576580658569470/

fhammon Jan 16, 2015 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 6877051)
I just came across this remarkable photo on Pinterest. I don't remember seeing it before.

LOS ANGELES, 1887 -- This photograph of the fledgling town of Los Angeles was taken from a hot-air balloon on June 26, 1887. Floating 9,000 feet above the city in a hot-air balloon, photographer Edwin H. Husher tilted his camera over the basket’s edge to capture images of Los Angeles. The voyage was part of a publicity stunt orchestrated by William Randolph Hearst designed to sell newspaper advertising and to top a similar hot-air balloon stunt by Hearst’s archrival Joseph Pulitzer.

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...81ebb9c46a.jpg

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/535576580658569470/

That's been posted here before. It seems so much has but of course there's much more to cover.

Here's a good "now" photo for comparison:

http://nathanmasters.files.wordpress...g?w=1044&h=779 http://nathanmasters.me/2013/08/15/l...-1887-vs-2013/

Beaudry Jan 16, 2015 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6465114)
I'll concede that the image below isn't nearly as good as the one above, but it does show the Sons of the Revolution building surrounded by its neighbors.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...evolution1.jpg

So that west side of the 400 block of South Hope...the above is about the best shot I think we've seen of the Rubaiyat (which became the Wickland, seen here, and would later become the St Leon and was built on the site of the Zahn house)—and we've seen the facades of the SoTR and the Santa Barbara and the Touraine and the Briggs and even a fair to middling shot of that house next to the Briggs...

...in any event, I came across this in a 1914 tourist annual, and had to share:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8665/...5bdf2ee4_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7473/...e0ecbfe6_o.jpg

This got me to thinking about these characters across the street, which Michael Ryerson aptly called the "peas-in-a-pod" as seen here.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7475/...89f8d5f7_o.png

They were also built by Frances Zahn, but no good photos of their façades exist that I know of. So here they are in rendering form:

The Gordon is the first to go up, Spring of 1912, 618 W 4th—
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7529/...ec3c6390_o.jpg

Then the LaBelle goes up in the Summer of '12, down at the corner at 630 W 4th—
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7472/...e2f03e3b_b.jpg

And the Bronx is built between them in the Fall of '12, at 624 W 4th—
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7464/...251b22d3_o.png

These three, and the aforementioned Rubaiyat, are all designed by Frank M Tyler, read about him here and here and here.

Here's a shot of the Gordon and a bit of the Bronx in less happy days, Summer of 1954—
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8583/...c273215f_b.jpgusc

One can even see the demo of the Crestholme across the street at 621...
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7547/...41476d3a_h.jpg

...the Crestholme was a 1905 hotel by Joseph Cather Newsom, an incredibly prolific and important architect whose work is all but wiped out down here. On Bunker Hill alone he was known for the Bradbury, the Melrose, the Bryan mansion, the Ems, the Hildreth, the Milo Baker house, etc.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7495/...6d6912e8_b.jpg


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