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thegoatman May 7, 2022 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bhawk66 (Post 9619304)
Those podiums are just brutal. Even the roof looks like sh*#

Literally what I said. Awful, thought we learned from the river north parking podium disasters of the 2000s. Parking especially this close to downtown should automatically be qualified for TOD and have it slashed way down. And then every remaining parking should be underground. Come on guys

rivernorthlurker May 7, 2022 3:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonsai Tree (Post 9619146)
JDL does not mess around. That's an aggressive timeline. Full project complete by 2026.

Where are you seeing the 2026 date? Previous slides I saw 2029 for last phase.

Klippenstein May 7, 2022 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegoatman (Post 9619314)
Literally what I said. Awful, thought we learned from the river north parking podium disasters of the 2000s. Parking especially this close to downtown should automatically be qualified for TOD and have it slashed way down. And then every remaining parking should be underground. Come on guys

That's only because the podiums are facing the train. Plus they cut the head off of Niche 905, which exacerbates how bad their podium already looks. I think North Union, on the other hand, are creating a great street presence.

There's not a great rendering of it with the updated designs but it looks very similar to their original renderings.

Updated
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...19bc1847_b.jpg

Original
https://s3-prod.chicagobusiness.com/...3_email_0.jpeg

Klippenstein May 7, 2022 3:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9619330)
Where are you seeing the 2026 date? Previous slides I saw 2029 for last phase.

It's on the website. https://northunion.com/

rivernorthlurker May 7, 2022 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9619330)
Where are you seeing the 2026 date? Previous slides I saw 2029 for last phase.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klippenstein (Post 9619348)
It's on the website. https://northunion.com/

Holy moly. Is this not huge news?

Some of those 'coming soon' dates for the ~400' towers are in 2024-2025. Meaning they'd have to break ground by next year no?? And then not long after for the 600 footers.

Until recently this was their timeline (which to be fair I thought was kinda ridiculously long)

https://i.imgur.com/nD778Dx.png

BVictor1 May 7, 2022 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9619330)
Where are you seeing the 2026 date? Previous slides I saw 2029 for last phase.

If you click the dots next to the proposed buildings, it gives a timeline. The tallest towers say 2025-2026.


Quote:

Originally Posted by bhawk66 (Post 9619304)
Those podiums are just brutal. Even the roof looks like sh*#

The land between the tracks and Orleans is vacant, so something will eventually get built there and obscure the views of the podium.

Kngkyle May 7, 2022 4:46 PM

If the rental market continues as it has been for the last year (and that seems likely given the macro trends) it makes sense for jdl to move the timelines up if that is indeed what they're doing. My most recent rental vacancy (about a month ago) had 8 showings and 3 applications within 24 hours of being on the market. And I thought I was being greedy with a 20% rent increase... :shrug:

ORD2010 May 8, 2022 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kngkyle (Post 9619394)
If the rental market continues as it has been for the last year (and that seems likely given the macro trends) it makes sense for jdl to move the timelines up if that is indeed what they're doing. My most recent rental vacancy (about a month ago) had 8 showings and 3 applications within 24 hours of being on the market. And I thought I was being greedy with a 20% rent increase... :shrug:

20% is huge, while i hope the market continues to be hot, lets not normalize these huge jumps in rent and end up with some even more serious housing issues in the city.

Busy Bee May 8, 2022 4:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 9619357)
The land between the tracks and Orleans is vacant, so something will eventually get built there and obscure the views of the podium.

Would have been interesting if those lots could have also been acquired and incorporated by spanning over the L... not sure if Cta would ever grant/sell air rights for something like that... talk about cool though.

marothisu May 8, 2022 4:57 PM

I love JDL because they dont seem to mess around with starting on projects. I'm pretty sure all their more recent projects started construction the very day they got a building permit. Nothing bothers me more than getting a building permit, then having a ceremonial groundbreaking a month later followed by actual construction 2 months after that.

ardecila May 9, 2022 2:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9619830)
Would have been interesting if those lots could have also been acquired and incorporated by spanning over the L... not sure if Cta would ever grant/sell air rights for something like that... talk about cool though.

They did it for Rush hospital and the IIT campus center, both private institutions.

Somehow the CBOT skybridge over the L at Van Buren had to be shut down for terrorism reasons, though.

TR Devlin May 9, 2022 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 9620090)
They did it for Rush hospital and the IIT campus center, both private institutions.

Somehow the CBOT skybridge over the L at Van Buren had to be shut down for terrorism reasons, though.

Or like when the Brown line used to go through the Keebler cookie factory in Old Town. I miss that.

rivernorthlurker May 10, 2022 4:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9619355)
Holy moly. Is this not huge news?

Some of those 'coming soon' dates for the ~400' towers are in 2024-2025. Meaning they'd have to break ground by next year no?? And then not long after for the 600 footers.

Until recently this was their timeline (which to be fair I thought was kinda ridiculously long)

https://i.imgur.com/nD778Dx.png

Ha, I am thinking ChicagoYimby may be following some of our threads here and I'm totally ok with that.

From today

https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/05/upd...velopment.html

"Updated Details And Timelines Revealed For North Union Megadevelopment"

https://i.imgur.com/AAEQWJU.png

Klippenstein May 10, 2022 4:56 PM

Urbanize Chicago has what looks like an updated rendering from ^that^ same angle, but I can’t post it since I’m on my phone.

Randomguy34 May 10, 2022 5:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Klippenstein (Post 9621242)
Urbanize Chicago has what looks like an updated rendering from ^that^ same angle, but I can’t post it since I’m on my phone.

Gotcha covered

https://chicago.urbanize.city/sites/...?itok=Gi31B9M0

https://chicago.urbanize.city/sites/...?itok=t99ckP1s

Rizzo May 10, 2022 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Briguy (Post 9616853)
The “stacked boxes” trend has evolved to angled stacked boxes. Big deahl,
1112 w Carroll, the tall buildings on the moody site.

It’s very very on trend right now whether or not it’s good design is another question.

Back in the early to mid 2000’s where there was curving facades, especially many towers in the south loop. I had a few friends who had condos in these types of buildings. Not great where you got the unit where a column was 2’ in from the window. Made for awkward placement of living room furniture. No architects are doing that anymore.

Steely Dan May 11, 2022 6:10 PM

* Off topic posts deleted *

Please stay in topic.

BVictor1 May 18, 2022 2:58 AM

05.17.22

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...842583/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...842588/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/render...&ts=1652842641

gebs May 18, 2022 1:57 PM

I think my kid would lose his shit at seeing a pink concrete mixer. That's rad.

marothisu May 18, 2022 4:53 PM

Tower crane will rise soon - building permit was issued for the crane foundation yesterday

rivernorthlurker May 18, 2022 6:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marothisu (Post 9628143)
Tower crane will rise soon - building permit was issued for the crane foundation yesterday

Given JDL's typical permit to construction timeline, that means the crane should be arriving approximately today. :shrug:

Toasty Joe May 18, 2022 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomguy34 (Post 9621267)

Do we know why the tallest two don't have greenery on their roofs despite having the most surface area? Will that be amenity space or something?

BrinChi May 19, 2022 3:44 AM

Since those are the last phase, I would assume those buildings are placeholders.

Randomguy34 May 19, 2022 4:40 PM

Building Up Chicago is reporting that caisson work is already done. JDL wasn't kidding about expediting this project: https://twitter.com/BuildingChi/stat...25542382379008

SolarWind May 20, 2022 2:22 AM

920 N Wells
 
May 17, 2022






TallBob May 21, 2022 7:38 AM

Ay chance the taller building gets a height bump?

Zapatan May 22, 2022 3:08 AM

How tall are the highest ones? Are they what's currently U/C?

Randomguy34 May 22, 2022 3:10 AM

The tallest one is 695 ft and they'll likely start construction in 2025

SolarWind Jun 3, 2022 4:55 PM

920 N Wells
 
June 2, 2022




Zapatan Jun 3, 2022 8:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomguy34 (Post 9631003)
The tallest one is 695 ft and they'll likely start construction in 2025

That's quite a wait for some midsized skyscrapers but it's still a cool project and will expand the skyline a lot.

SolarWind Jun 15, 2022 10:50 PM

920 N Wells
 
June 14, 2022




Bombardier Jun 16, 2022 3:31 PM

The tower crane is being installed now. Add another one to the list!

pianowizard Jun 16, 2022 5:10 PM

^Phases one and two consist of six buildings, with heights ranging from 48' to 300'. Which building is the tower crane for?

rgarri4 Jun 16, 2022 5:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pianowizard (Post 9651682)
^Phases one and two consist of six buildings, with heights ranging from 48' to 300'. Which building is the tower crane for?

920 North Wells. The one under construction lol.

rivernorthlurker Jun 17, 2022 2:30 PM

Crane being assembled today.

https://i.imgur.com/22wnGzZ.jpg

BVictor1 Jun 20, 2022 2:39 AM

The site for 868 N. Wells is now fenced off.

06/19/22

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/render...&ts=1655691567

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/render...&ts=1655691584

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/render...&ts=1655691616

rgarri4 Jun 28, 2022 8:35 PM

From my model

https://images2.imgbox.com/38/27/dkNPtAS5_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/56/10/wa685W0d_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/47/95/jyShpDLf_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/6b/f3/yslVdJYE_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/bd/fb/aohIHUCR_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/f6/70/NQVv4rRO_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/45/77/DqeZLJpk_o.png

https://images2.imgbox.com/5d/a5/0bdNVEPK_o.png

SolarWind Jul 1, 2022 4:22 AM

June 27, 2022






rivernorthlurker Jul 10, 2022 8:46 AM

7/9/22

Some more of construction and fencing.

The feel of this section of Near North has been changing really fast - eg with the recent 3 projects along along Chicago Ave, as well as OCS, Bush Temple, AMLI, Eight O Five, Aurelien, and Atrium Village in the last few years. It's going to feel completely different once these start rising yet again. Also 311 W Huron kicking off and now 739 N Wells about to be demo'd. Then there's there's the casino...

IMO eventually this whole area will congeal with the River District and development on the south end of Goose Island and have a bit of it's own identity, kinda like Old Town. Methinks/hopes that an improvement in neighborhood feel and rentals in this are may help popularize the neighborhood and expedite those developments a bit.

It feels like Chicago Ave has finally grown up and is going to become a bit more busy. And I think this will link everything a bit more to Milwuakee and Wicker Park. Its exciting to see developments filling in gaps between activity centers in the city and things starting to feel a bit more contiguous.

https://i.imgur.com/7DLQnEj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/AEKnbYO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mGXbZ8A.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wVFvPlX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/K3yCyi9.jpg

rivernorthlurker Jul 10, 2022 9:08 AM

deleteme
 
my bad pz delete

marothisu Jul 15, 2022 5:18 PM

3 demo permits were issued for 210-232 W Chestnut/859 N Franklin. These are a few 1 and 2 story buildings https://www.google.com/maps/place/85...3!4d-87.635464)

232 W Chestnut is supposed to be 5 stories at 70 feet tall, while 871 N Franklin will be 4 stories at 50 feet tall. Existing 3 story building at Franklin & Locust will get a 4th floor added on and be adaptively re-used (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8990...7i16384!8i8192)

Via https://chicagoyimby.com/2021/05/chi...orth-side.html

https://chicagoyimby.com/wp-content/...chitecture.jpg

https://chicagoyimby.com/wp-content/...chitecture.jpg

rgarri4 Jul 15, 2022 5:33 PM

The latest renderings show that the design may have changed. Looks like a bland glass box.

https://images2.imgbox.com/54/78/RnSMAYoD_o.jpg

Razorback Jul 15, 2022 5:41 PM

Can you provide a source? This would be highly devastating to a perfect design. Like seriously, just leave the sh^t as is when the project was originally announced. :hell:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgarri4 (Post 9677211)
The latest renderings show that the design may have changed. Looks like a bland glass box.

https://images2.imgbox.com/54/78/RnSMAYoD_o.jpg


Randomguy34 Jul 15, 2022 5:44 PM

Booo! At least they're renovating the lowrise warehouse. The delivery timeline for this section was 2023-2024, but looks like they want to finish this sooner rather than later.

rivernorthlurker Jul 16, 2022 7:25 AM

I've seen blander...

From the article.

Quote:

232 W Chestnut Street, the next structure in this phase, will be a five-story structure rising 70 feet in height. Holding 35 residential units, the building will utilize a mass-timber structure and be clad in a steel structure facade. Residences will be larger in size and have corner balconies. The final building of the first phase will be 871 N Franklin Street, an existing building that comprises four floors that rise 50 feet tall. Formerly the Nealy Printing Company, the masonry and limestone structure will be adaptively reused with a glass addition creating a fifth floor.
From rgarri's render it looks like 232 is getting the boot. Wonder if the new structure still uses timber... 871 still looks similar to before though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgarri4 (Post 9677211)
The latest renderings show that the design may have changed. Looks like a bland glass box.

https://images2.imgbox.com/54/78/RnSMAYoD_o.jpg


Razorback Jul 16, 2022 2:58 PM

Based on the article, it sounds like the original design is still in play. I think the picture is just a bad render.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9677757)
I've seen blander...

From the article.



From rgarri's render it looks like 232 is getting the boot. Wonder if the new structure still uses timber... 871 still looks similar to before though.


simon07 Jul 16, 2022 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorback (Post 9677853)
Based on the article, it sounds like the original design is still in play. I think the picture is just a bad render.

Great job saving that brick building on the corner. This is how you do things responsibly.

rgarri4 Jul 16, 2022 5:03 PM

I pulled the rendering directly from their official website.
Here's the old rendering from last year.

https://images2.imgbox.com/2c/20/sU5SDX5V_o.jpg
via yimby

rivernorthlurker Jul 16, 2022 5:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorback (Post 9677853)
Based on the article, it sounds like the original design is still in play. I think the picture is just a bad render.

Rgarri - where hath ye acquired thee render?

Briguy Jul 16, 2022 6:45 PM

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