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ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 12:55 AM

:previous: Thanks HossC. In the snapshot with Betty & Myrna it doesn't look like a building at all.
It just looks fake...like the hump on a plaster-cast brontosaurus. ;)
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Tourmaline May 30, 2014 2:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6555439)
Another 1929 aerial taken just east of the one above shows the intersection of Wilshire and Western.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Going back to the aerial shot, I was also intrigued by the two aircraft which are parked on the corner of Western and Ingraham. I was hoping that one of them might have made it to Bob's Air Mail Service Station at 5453 Wilshire (see BifRayRock's post #7493), but their designs look wrong.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reWestern4.jpg
Detail of picture above.


I have been equally intrigued by the aerial shot and the two aircraft. Considering this was just two or three years after Lindberg's Atlantic sojourn, I would imagine there was still keen interest in airplanes, which begets the question, what were the planes doing there? An advertising gimmick a la "Bob's" ? Aircraft sales? (Think '46, Eddie Meyer at Third and Vermont. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=8697 ) They certainly look small enough to have been trailered to the location, but in '29 they could have landed on many undeveloped lots nearby.

Another thing caught my eye is the square area that almost looks like an animal pen but I think it is more likely just billboards arranged in a square pattern and the area within used as a parking lot.


While looking for more information on the airplanes at or near Ingraham, I tripped over the following image of Ingraham Street looking west from Lucas Avenue. The lack of pavement certainly drives home the need to wear a "duster" when running simple errands. With all of those lovely residences, one wonders how long it took to get that street paved. Also a fine complement of hitching posts.;) Would the buildings pictured have been single or multifamily dwellings?


1907 - Ingraham Street looking west from Lucas Avenue
http://waterandpower.org/DWP-LA%20Pu...Poles_1907.jpghttp://waterandpower.org/DWP-LA%20Pu...Poles_1907.jpg


1907 - Lucas Ave north from Ingraham Street
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067288.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067288.jpg

1905 - Nearby Lucas and Wilshire
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067294.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067294.jpg

Tourmaline May 30, 2014 2:44 AM

Interesting Queen Anne style home that "once" existed at 1116 Ingraham Street. Likely had its own hitching post and predated street paving.

1978
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00089/00089963.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00089/00089963.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00089/00089962.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00089/00089962.jpg


(Mustang II, Capri, Audi 100LS)

Tourmaline May 30, 2014 3:00 AM

Eastbound PE streetcar on Franklin Avenue. Drugstore at NW corner.


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011317.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011317.jpg

CityBoyDoug May 30, 2014 3:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6598176)
An interesting bit of memorabilia from the roaring twenties.
...of course we've seen the Jonathon Club numerous times on NLA.

545 S. Figueroa Street
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/844/1bp9.jpg
ebay
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The Jonathon Club was basically a bachelor rich man's YMCA.

Gyms, stores, restaurants, meeting rooms, upscale residential style rooms and things like that. In that old all-male environment one could make business connections...I assume, they were business related.

Women are now allowed beyond the threshold of the door.

The following are never permitted in public areas of the Town Club. JC Membership is around $30K.

NOT allowed Clothing:
Denim
Jeans, shorts or cargo pants
T-shirts
Sweats (including leggings, warm-ups and jogging suits in all fabrics)
Tank Tops
Soiled, frayed, bleached or torn clothing
Exposed underwear
Bare midriffs
Clothing that is excessively revealing or which might be offensive to members or guests
Hats:
Formal and casual hats (except for women's dress hats, which are allowed)
Visors
Shoes:
Rubber flip-flops
Men's clogs
Athletic shoes (including running shoes, tennis shoes and sneakers)
Men's sandals
Men's open-toe shoes
Management has full discretion by the Board of Directors to determine and enforce what constitutes as appropriate attire.

Tourmaline May 30, 2014 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6598373)
I have been equally intrigued by the aerial shot and the two aircraft. Considering this was just two or three years after Lindberg's Atlantic sojourn, I would imagine there was still keen interest in airplanes, which begets the question, what were the planes doing there? An advertising gimmick a la "Bob's" ? Aircraft sales? (Think '46, Eddie Meyer at Third and Vermont. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=8697 ) They certainly look small enough to have been trailered to the location, but in '29 they could have landed on many undeveloped lots nearby.

Another thing caught my eye is the square area that almost looks like an animal pen but I think it is more likely just billboards arranged in a square pattern and the area within used as a parking lot.


While looking for more information on the airplanes at or near Ingraham, I tripped over the following image of Ingraham Street looking west from Lucas Avenue. The lack of pavement certainly drives home the need to wear a "duster" when running simple errands. With all of those lovely residences, one wonders how long it took to get that street paved. Also a fine complement of hitching posts.;) Would the buildings pictured have been single or multifamily dwellings?


1907 - Ingraham Street looking west from Lucas Avenue
http://waterandpower.org/DWP-LA%20Pu...Poles_1907.jpghttp://waterandpower.org/DWP-LA%20Pu...Poles_1907.jpg


1907 - Lucas Ave north from Ingraham Street
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067288.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067288.jpg

1905 - Nearby Lucas and Wilshire
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067294.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067294.jpg


1937 - Third and Lucas
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00104/00104222.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00104/00104222.jpg

Retired_in_Texas May 30, 2014 4:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6598373)
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
I have been equally intrigued by the aerial shot and the two aircraft. Considering this was just two or three years after Lindberg's Atlantic sojourn, I would imagine there was still keen interest in airplanes, which begets the question, what were the planes doing there? An advertising gimmick a la "Bob's" ? Aircraft sales? (Think '46, Eddie Meyer at Third and Vermont. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=8697 ) They certainly look small enough to have been trailered to the location, but in '29 they could have landed on many undeveloped lots nearby.

Another thing caught my eye is the square area that almost looks like an animal pen but I think it is more likely just billboards arranged in a square pattern and the area within used as a parking lot.

It appears the aircraft in this photo are being disassembled. In fact we see a bi-plane that has had its wings removed and placed on the ground leaving it stripped right down to the fuselage. Above the three aircraft in the area where the photo appears damaged we see what could be an aircraft fuselage with no wings to be seen.

I believe you are correct about the "square" actually being signs. If you look across the street you will see two signs that appear to have been done by the same sign company. When I looked at the signs across the street an oddity caught my eye. That oddity being the circular object that appears to have a domed top. Then I noticed a pair of those near the parked planes. Any idea as to what those might have been? Almost look like vents for something underground.

Beaudry May 30, 2014 7:28 AM

Greetings gents! (And ladies.) I think of y'all often and just had to write with the sad news that I drove by the old John C Austin State Bldg site -- which I photographed and wrote about in this post -- to find it has been completely torn up, just a field of dirt topped with heavy equipment. I didn't even stop the car to get a shot of the mountain of debris and detritus, despite the fact that it's full of all that nifty, now broken-to-hell, marble bits.

What I did flash on, though, was what about the basement? They've regraded down quite some feet it seems, and then, what, pave it over? Sod it? Whatever they do, I want to know what's down there, given what was sealed and covered over with earth in 1975.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/...62399d2e_o.png

Pretty well possible it was all installed in some Councilman's home by the end of that week; or just dumpstered; or stolen sometime who-knows-when -- but it's just as likely it's simply been forgotten about and remains entombed to this day. I'm marginally sure I can operate a backhoe...

JScott May 30, 2014 8:45 AM

"French Flats."

GaylordWilshire May 30, 2014 11:43 AM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b...rtisscompl.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAT Aug 25, 1929/July 2, 1929


Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6555439)
Another 1929 aerial taken just east of the one above shows the intersection of Wilshire and Western.

Going back to the aerial shot, I was also intrigued by the two aircraft which are parked on the corner of Western and Ingraham. I was hoping that one of them might have made it to Bob's Air Mail Service Station at 5453 Wilshire (see BifRayRock's post #7493), but their designs look wrong.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...reWestern4.jpg
Detail of picture above.


HossC May 30, 2014 1:23 PM

:previous:

Thanks so much for solving that mystery, GW.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6598479)

Here's the Yellow Cab Co. building in 1928, complete with roof sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ab3rdLucas.jpg
USC Digital Library

Back in 2011, gsjansen posted several Yellow Cab Co. images including a later view taken from a similar vantage point to the one above. That post identifies the location as the south east corner of the intersection, and comes complete with a "now" picture. Based on the topography of the area, I think the building was actually on the south west corner, which is now Evelyn Thurman Gratts Elementary School.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...A3rdLucas1.jpg
GSV

The building below is on the north west corner of the intersection, and is just visible on the left of Tourmaline's picture above. It's also visible through the window of a Yellow Cab Co. office in a picture which can be found in the same USC set as the exterior shot above - see here.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...A3rdLucas2.jpg
GSV

While searching the USC archive, I found a set of pictures called "Yellow Cab driver training on Western Avenue, Southern California, 1926". The view below ties in nicely with the recent posts about the intersection of Wilshire and Western. It also shows another variant of Wilshire Boulevard stop signs.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...sJDonahue1.jpg
USC Digital Library

On the left is the James J. Donahue realty company, while partially hidden on the right is the Henry de Roulet Co. The adverts below are from the 1927 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...sJDonahue2.jpg
LAPL

HossC May 30, 2014 1:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6598294)

Thanks HossC. In the snapshot with Betty & Myrna it doesn't look like a building at all.
It just looks fake...like the hump on a plaster-cast brontosaurus. ;)

You'd have to wait for about 40 years and travel nearly 100 miles east for one of them :).

"March 23, 1970: Sculptor Claude K. Bell with his 45-foot- tall, 150-foot-long brontosaur in Cabazon next to Interstate 10. Bell, a Knottā€™s Berry Farm sculptor and portrait artist, opened the Wheel Inn cafe in 1958. To attract customers, he began building dinosaurs." - LA Times

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Brontosaur.jpg
LA Times

ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 3:55 PM

Photos taken from the intersection of Via Clemente Street and Whittier Boulevard, East Los Angeles in 1929.

photo #1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/nlvt.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/473/rec/144



-a school? ...library?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/zksfg.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/473/rec/144



..and speaking of plaster cast. :)
In the second photograph I was surprised to see a Matterhorn shaped 'mountain' in the distance.

photo #2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/wt3sf.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/473/rec/144

I vaguely recall a discussion about this 'mountain' in the earlier days of NLA, but was unable to locate the posts.


Here's a closer view. Pretty cool isn't it.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/9qpdw.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/473/rec/144

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CityBoyDoug May 30, 2014 4:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6599033)
Photos taken from the intersection of Via Clemente Street and Whittier Boulevard, East Los Angeles in 1929.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/9qpdw.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/473/rec/144

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What is that faux mountain? Could it be a restaurant?

Retired_in_Texas May 30, 2014 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6599074)
What is that faux mountain? Could it be a restaurant?

No way that is a restaurant. Whatever it is, it is huge. And what is the pyramid like object in the background but seemingly within the confines of mountain like structures behind it. Part of an amusement park?

ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 5:34 PM

Although my memory is quite bad, I remember something about ice
-the place is too large for an ice cream parlor, so I'm guessing an ice skating rink perhaps?

I'm sure someone will dig up the older post eventually / in the meanwhile it's a fun little mystery for a Friday afternoon.
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ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 6:07 PM

Harris Arms Apartments

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/ip4p.jpg
ebay


today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../834/zxlz1.jpg
GSV

Unsurprisingly, the two decorative urns on the roof are missing.
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ethereal_reality May 30, 2014 6:10 PM

1909http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../834/2twe6.jpg
ebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/839/xmp4.jpg

HossC May 30, 2014 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6599033)

In the second photograph I was surprised to see a Matterhorn shaped 'mountain' in the distance.

photo #2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/wt3sf.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/473/rec/144

I vaguely recall a discussion about this 'mountain' in the earlier days of NLA, but was unable to locate the posts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6599227)
Although my memory is quite bad, I remember something about ice
-the place is too large for an ice cream parlor, so I'm guessing an ice skating rink perhaps?

I'm sure someone will dig up the older post eventually / in the meanwhile it's a fun little mystery for a Friday afternoon.

Could this be the previous post you were thinking of? It's obviously not the same place and I don't think anyone identified the location.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6089916)

mystery location

Gas station and ice cream stand, Los Angeles

http://imageshack.us/a/img829/8430/a...icecreamst.jpg
ebay

I can't quite make out the sign on top of the hill. (my guess would be Baldwin Hills, but I don't remember such a sign)


CityBoyDoug May 30, 2014 6:48 PM

Does this look like fun....
 
Los Feliz kids play on this contraption called a hootenanny made from old roller skates attached to long planks. It was perfect for careening dangerously down Berendo Street even though traffic was practically non existent in 1933. It looks like every kid in the 1900 block of Berendo managed to climb aboard.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psaed2a408.jpg
Los Feliz blog.


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