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Busy Bee Aug 13, 2022 6:19 PM

Just a little trivial factoid but 33rd wasn't supposed to be the terminal as the Hudson & Manhattan under McAdoo was planning to take the line to Grand Central Terminal.

mrnyc Aug 13, 2022 9:14 PM

congestion pricing is on the way :tup:



CONGESTION PRICING

How Does Congestion Pricing Work? What to Know About the Toll System Taking Manhattan


The idea’s been kicked around by politicians and transit advocates for years but never tried in the U.S. Here’s a guide on what it all means, whom it will affect — and when we may actually see it in New York.

BY RACHEL HOLLIDAY SMITH AND JOSE MARTINEZ
ADDITIONAL REPORTING BY JOSE MARTINEZ


For decades, New York leaders have played with the idea of tolling car traffic in the city’s central core.

Now, as people and traffic slowly return to Manhattan’s center and climate change keeps punching the city in the gut, the push for so-called congestion pricing — to help reduce traffic-related emissions and raise money for mass transit — is gathering steam in earnest.

The idea was born in New York, then adopted in several overseas cities, but has never been tried anywhere in the United States. A bill from Albany gave New York’s plan the green light in 2019, but a lack of action by the Federal Highway Administration under then-President Donald Trump delayed the program.

As traffic surges again, a critical player for the concept, Gov. Kathy Hochul, has signaled her full support for the idea — despite waffling on the idea earlier on the campaign trail — and so has Mayor Eric Adams. The Biden administration is behind the plan, too.


more:
https://www.thecity.nyc/2021/9/15/22...m-in-manhattan



CONGESTION PRICING

MTA Eyes Congestion Pricing Toll of Up to $23 Per Vehicle Trip into Manhattan
Transit officials say more pros than cons lie ahead as they cruise toward launching fees for drivers entering the city’s traffic-clogged core.

BY JOSE MARTINEZ AND RACHEL HOLLIDAY SMITH
ADDITIONAL REPORTING BY SHANTEL DESTRA


The years-long effort to toll vehicles in the most congested parts of Manhattan as a way to bankroll billions of dollars in mass-transit improvements and reduce traffic is no longer stuck in neutral.

New York’s system would be the first time tolls would be used in the United States to reduce traffic-related emissions.

Today officials released the long-delayed “environmental assessment” of the proposed Central Business District Tolling Program — touting how it could potentially cut congestion coming into the core of Manhattan by nearly 20%, improve air quality, boost bus service reliability and increase mass transit usage.

The document also outlined what the program may cost drivers entering the toll zone: between $5 and $23 per trip, depending on the time of day and the type of vehicle.

... the program that aims to fund $15 billion of subway, bus and commuter rail improvements as part of the MTA’s 2020 to 2024 Capital Plan now appears to be on track, with virtual public hearings set for later this month.

“Bottom line: this is good for the environment, good for public transit and good for New York and the region,” Janno Lieber, MTA chairperson and CEO, said in a statement.


more:
https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/8/10/23...g-toll-details

TowerDude Aug 13, 2022 9:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 9701751)
Why are people suggesting PATH be extended from 33rd (which physically cannot be done) to connect to Penn when we could just wait a few years for Penn 15 to be complete and people can easily walk the connection once again?

You can't have a westward spur from the 33td Street PATH station at 30th Street that would go past Penn Station, under or next to to the 7 and L train stops I proposed and proceed into its own Hudson Tunnel to s station in Secaucus/Union City? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-naAcIEMTIB...0/path-map.jpg

The North PATH Hudson Tunnel (lets call it that) could be dug UNDER the Gateway Tunnel to avoid conflicts.

Busy Bee Aug 13, 2022 10:23 PM

I think an incredibly strong argument could be made that the new Gateway tunnel should be 2 tubes for Amtrak/Heavy NJT commuter rail and another 2 tubes for some future PATH, NYCT or bi-agency rapid transit service to Hudson and Bergen counties, much in the same way the 63rd St tunnel was planned. Of course, a southern Manhattan and northern Manhattan entry/exit tubes rather than a pair of Midtown tubes could also be a solution.

mrnyc Aug 14, 2022 5:37 AM

^ yeah it seems very short sighted not to go for more tunnels while the gateway work is happening.


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your shocking factoid of the day :eek:


The MTA has identified an elite club of 166 bridge-and-tunnel toll evaders who owe an average of $30,120 each.

ardecila Aug 14, 2022 1:56 PM

^ All city employees, no doubt...

k1052 Aug 14, 2022 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 9701933)
You can't have a westward spur from the 33td Street PATH station at 30th Street that would go past Penn Station, under or next to to the 7 and L train stops I proposed and proceed into its own Hudson Tunnel to s station in Secaucus/Union City? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-naAcIEMTIB...0/path-map.jpg

The North PATH Hudson Tunnel (lets call it that) could be dug UNDER the Gateway Tunnel to avoid conflicts.

I doubt it if Penn South does get built. I don't see the utility anyway as PATH will again be reconnected to the Penn complex by foot relatively soon anyway.

The best opportunity for a PATH expansion was when they were rebuilding WTC but they decided to not bother. They could have gone into Brooklyn or run up the east side to GCT.

Busy Bee Aug 14, 2022 4:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 9702275)

The best opportunity for a PATH expansion was when they were rebuilding WTC but they decided to not bother. They could have gone into Brooklyn or run up the east side to GCT.

Save that for a future rapid regional that I've been drawing in my head. Not only that but PATH could always head eastward and theoretically into Bklyn using the 9th St provision built into the original system. This would also do a good job of connecting the underserved LES.

TowerDude Aug 14, 2022 6:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 9702275)
I doubt it if Penn South does get built. I don't see the utility anyway as PATH will again be reconnected to the Penn complex by foot relatively soon anyway.

The best opportunity for a PATH expansion was when they were rebuilding WTC but they decided to not bother. They could have gone into Brooklyn or run up the east side to GCT.

Its a big difference between being in walking distance of the 33rd Street PATH station and being within walking distance of Secaucus and/or Union City New Jersey.

TowerDude Aug 14, 2022 6:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9702290)
Save that for a future rapid regional that I've been drawing in my head. Not only that but PATH could always head eastward and theoretically into Bklyn using the 9th St provision built into the original system. This would also do a good job of connecting the underserved LES.

There should be an LGA/JFK/WTC/EWR Airport express train.

UrbanImpact Aug 15, 2022 1:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 9702324)
There should be an LGA/JFK/WTC/EWR Airport express train.

In our dreams! Do you know how much that would cost!

k1052 Aug 15, 2022 2:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 9702323)
Its a big difference between being in walking distance of the 33rd Street PATH station and being within walking distance of Secaucus and/or Union City New Jersey.

If the goal is to provide attractive rail service to more people in Hudson County I'd say the 7 and L are much better bets. Not for the least of which reasons that you pay one fare and have a multitude of in-system transfer options to reach your destination.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TowerDude (Post 9702324)
There should be an LGA/JFK/WTC/EWR Airport express train.

I can't think why. What's needed is a frequent regional rail network that puts people within a relatively short AirTrain ride from the airports or in the case of LGA a short ride on NYCT subway extension to LGA. There isn't anything physically wrong with say the JFK AirTrain but PA and MTA have effectively conspired to make it an expensive miserable pain in the ass.

Busy Bee Aug 15, 2022 6:02 PM

Airtrain shmairtrain. Whats really needed is for the connection between EWR, JFK and LGA to be journeys along a rapid metro orbital.

mrnyc Aug 17, 2022 2:49 PM

it should probably stay an airtrain for security purposes.

let the pa keep responsibility instead of mta.

that said, if they want to build an astoria subway extension to lga fine by me -- just pick a plan already and git'r done.

Busy Bee Aug 17, 2022 2:59 PM

Security purposes?

mrnyc Aug 17, 2022 3:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9704646)
Security purposes?

yeah, like mad bombers and general tracking of airport terrorists. that's one reason why we got the airtrain in the first place. from the pa point of view you don't want to leave any security to mta (or nj transit for that matter) if you are in charge of the airports, you would want to keep full control of all airport access points.

Busy Bee Aug 17, 2022 3:44 PM

"Security" is not why the half-assed Airtrain was planned and built. The whole thing was essentially a compromise after the realization that a direct express link by the MTA that in the doldrums of the 1990s had no funding and insufficient political advocacy. I don't see how it would make a difference whether or not an PANYNJ Airtrain or a MTA operated train as part of a regional network pulled into the general locale of the current terminal outside of screening and boarding. How would that be different than, O'Hare, or Dulles or nearly every European and Asian airport?

k1052 Aug 17, 2022 4:16 PM

JFK (and now EWR) layout is also not really great for a direct regional rail connection and there isn't a good way to avoid an ATS. EWR in particular should make their new ATS go to Newark Penn with a stop or two in the Ironbound for local transit.

Busy Bee Aug 17, 2022 5:36 PM

I'm not suggesting some sort of rapid regional rail make stops at every terminal but instead stop at an airport transport hub. An ATS would still exist to distribute people to each terminal.

k1052 Aug 17, 2022 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9704876)
I'm not suggesting some sort of rapid regional rail make stops at every terminal but instead stop at an airport transport hub. An ATS would still exist to distribute people to each terminal.

If the MTA were half as competent as agencies in Europe I'd agree. Working with what we've got bulling the Port Authority into making the AirTrains better is probably more viable.

mrnyc Aug 20, 2022 12:55 AM

the top reason for lagging ridership?

work from home -- with a side of income inequality:



Work from home is main reason slowing MTA ridership return: Lieber

By Kevin Duggan
Posted on August 17, 2022


Work from home is the biggest driver keeping mass transit ridership stuck below pre-pandemic levels, MTA Chairperson Janno Lieber said Wednesday.

Safety concerns are also to blame, said Lieber, but transit data show that New Yorkers from blue-collar areas have returned to the subways and buses in greater numbers, even though they live in neighborhoods with higher crime rates.

Residents in wealthier parts of town with lower crime rates — who are more likely to have a job with a remote option — have been slower to travel back to the office for work, according to the transit chief.


more:
https://www.amny.com/politics/work-f...ership-lieber/

mrnyc Aug 26, 2022 7:54 PM

a good news milestone:


Con Edison installs 100th curbside charging port for electric vehicles on Staten Island

By Emily Davenport
Posted on August 25, 2022



For those driving electric vehicles, Con Edison, in partnership with the New York City Department of Transportation (DOT) and FLO, officially completed the installation of 100 Level 2 public electric vehicle charging ports across the city.

The installation of the charging ports comes as a part of Con Edison’s curbside charging pilot program, which is designed to increase the adoption of electric vehicles and help reduce the impact the transportation sector has on the environment. The 100th charging location recently opened for use on Staten Island.


more:
https://www.amny.com/transit/con-edi...staten-island/

mrnyc Sep 1, 2022 3:06 PM

good news for long islanders:



MTA Announces Opening of Second Section of LIRR Main Line Third Track

Long Island Rail Road
Updated August 30, 2022 5:00 p.m.


LIRR Main Line Expansion Project Is on Schedule and $100 Million Below Budget

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) today announced the opening of the 2.5-mile second section of the Long Island Rail Road’s new Main Line third track between the Merillon Avenue and Mineola stations.

“Just two weeks after opening the first section of the Third Track, we’re celebrating the next step in the MTA’s historic, multi-billion dollar investment into the Long Island Rail Road,” said MTA Chair and CEO Janno Lieber. “Third Track, along with Grand Central Madison opening later this year, will allow the LIRR to increase its service by 40%, boosting Long Island’s economy for generations to come.”


more:
https://new.mta.info/press-release/m...ne-third-track

mrnyc Sep 2, 2022 1:02 PM

uuuggghhhh !!!! :slob:



Transit
Hudson rail tunnel project delayed until 2038, cost rises by $2 billion

By Kevin Duggan
Posted on September 1, 2022



The mega-project to build a new commuter rail tunnel beneath the Hudson River and rehabilitate century-old tubes ravaged by Superstorm Sandy will take three years longer and could cost $2 billion more than previously planned, officials from New York and New Jersey said.

The cost of the Hudson Tunnel Project ballooned to $16.1 billion from $14.1 billion and its completion date is set for 2038 instead of 2035, according a Wednesday evening release by the Gateway Development Commission.


more:
https://www.amny.com/transit/hudson-...038-2-billion/

https://www.amny.com/wp-content/uplo...-2048x1540.jpg
The old rail tunnel beneath the Hudson River.
Christopher Leaman/US DOT

MAC123 Sep 2, 2022 1:17 PM

I could have a kid today and they would be almost out of high school by the time this project completes.

k1052 Sep 2, 2022 3:04 PM

The odds that Gateway/Penn South becomes an even more expensive ESA rise with every new development. I find it hard to find much value in the project anymore especially since nobody is saying what they'd even DO with the extra capacity. LIRR has majorly disappointed with their service plan after spending $11B which does not inspire a lot of confidence.

Busy Bee Sep 2, 2022 3:20 PM

Come on now, the project is absolutely necessary based on the lifespan of the North River tunnels alone. Fact: they have to be closed and rehabilitated. Fact: you can't do that without replacement tunnels being open. When finished the 4 tracks will boost capacity, drastically improve scheduling and performance and build in redundancy to assure the avoidance of catastrophic delays caused by issues with the old tunnels. Plus Portal Bridge(s) and all the trunk capacity added between the Penn's.

I dont have a crystal ball but I'm not sure this announcement is that big of a deal. Its not beyond possible they make up for the lost time when construction is blitzing along. As for the reported peice increase, did anyone seriously think that wouldnt inch upwards? Inflation and regular contigencies on a civil project of this scale are unavoidable. Luckily scope creep is unlikely as the Gateway project is pretty well planned imo. I just hope the tbm doesnt get stuck underwater.

k1052 Sep 2, 2022 4:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9719767)
Come on now, the project is absolutely necessary based on the lifespan of the North River tunnels alone. Fact: they have to be closed and rehabilitated. Fact: you can't do that without replacement tunnels being open.

Do we think the north river tunnels are going to last until 2043 without major rehabilitations? I sincerely doubt it.

Quote:

When finished the 4 tracks will boost capacity, drastically improve scheduling and performance and build in redundancy to assure the avoidance of catastrophic delays caused by issues with the old tunnels. Plus Portal Bridge(s) and all the trunk capacity added between the Penn's.
I'd like some entity to deign an explanation or two about how the new capacity will be used exactly. How much more Amtrak service and to where, how much more NJT service and to where. What rolling stock are you buying to facilitate that and where is the $ coming from. In light of LIRR spending an absolute fortune for basically no new service these are not unreasonable questions.

Quote:

I dont have a crystal ball but I'm not sure this announcement is that big of a deal. Its not beyond possible they make up for the lost time when construction is blitzing along.
If there was some precedent for this in the NY area in similar projects I might entertain the possibility. The opposite is very much true unfortunately.

Quote:

As for the reported peice increase, did anyone seriously think that wouldnt inch upwards? Inflation and regular contigencies on a civil project of this scale are unavoidable. Luckily scope creep is unlikely as the Gateway project is pretty well planned imo. I just hope the tbm doesnt get stuck underwater.
This thing is now expensive way way beyond any comparable project on the planet and I have not heard a good explanation as to why which doesn't lead me to believe taxpayers are being taken for a massive ride by all involved.

Randomguy34 Sep 2, 2022 5:38 PM

I'm not surprised by the cost (unfortunately), I'm surprised by the timeline. This is a critical project for the NEC, and presents opportunities to turn NYC's commuter rail network into a proper regional rail on par with RER. There's no reason we should have to wait 16 years for its completion

UrbanImpact Sep 2, 2022 6:58 PM

The freakin Channel Tunnel between England and France took less than 10 years to build...WTF

Speculator Sep 2, 2022 9:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrbanImpact (Post 9720130)
The freakin Channel Tunnel between England and France took less than 10 years to build...WTF

I wonder how much money would be saved if they would do a 12-18 month project in 12-18 months instead of 15 years?

LineDrive Sep 3, 2022 3:06 PM

What is this project? Just a single commuter rail tunnel?

There should be a tunnel for commuter rail, one for Amtrak and one for NYC Subway.

UrbanImpact Sep 3, 2022 4:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LineDrive (Post 9720804)
What is this project? Just a single commuter rail tunnel?

There should be a tunnel for commuter rail, one for Amtrak and one for NYC Subway.

Sheesh :runaway: You want us to momma bird the facts to you instead of reading the thread?

Busy Bee Sep 3, 2022 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LineDrive (Post 9720804)
What is this project? Just a single commuter rail tunnel?

There should be a tunnel for commuter rail, one for Amtrak and one for NYC Subway.

When the Gateway tunnel is completed and the original North River tunnel rehabilitated they will essentially, at least as current and future capacity is concerned, will have essentially have a commuter and Amtrak tunnel though i dont think either will be relegated to a certain tunnel, this flexibility is actually a huge variable in capacity itself. As for a rapid transit/rapid regional tunnel of some sort, i think most here would be in agreement that it would have been wise to bore another two tubes as part of this massive civil project for some future service, but as there is no concrete concept for such a thing and would be so far off the page to even be considered scope creep, obviously such a provision was not pushed for, planned for or engineered for. Which of course is a shame since futureproofing it now would have been immensely wise and economically prudent, but like many things its omission is indicative of the lack of vision that the entire regions transport agencies suffers from.

mrnyc Sep 3, 2022 8:52 PM

in better news, at least for us staten islanders, tourists, minor league baseball and outlet mall shopping fans. :tup:



Third new Staten Island Ferry, the Dorothy Day, departs Florida for 14-day journey to New York

Updated: Sep. 02, 2022, 2:05 p.m.|Published: Sep. 02, 2022, 1:41 p.m.


STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. — Anchors Aweigh! The third and final new Staten Island Ferry boat is now on its way to New York City after undergoing a successful U.S. Coast Guard inspection.

The Dorothy Day is “passenger ready,” and departed the Eastern Shipbuilding Group’s Port St. Joe Shipyard in Panama City, Florida, on Friday after being inspected and certified, the group announced.

The Dorothy Day, a double-ended 4,500-passenger ferry, is named for the renowned social activist and journalist who spent decades aiding the hungry and needy on the borough’s South Shore.



more:
https://www.silive.com/news/2022/09/...-new-york.html

mrnyc Sep 3, 2022 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 9719896)
Do we think the north river tunnels are going to last until 2043 without major rehabilitations? I sincerely doubt it.



I'd like some entity to deign an explanation or two about how the new capacity will be used exactly. How much more Amtrak service and to where, how much more NJT service and to where. What rolling stock are you buying to facilitate that and where is the $ coming from. In light of LIRR spending an absolute fortune for basically no new service these are not unreasonable questions.



If there was some precedent for this in the NY area in similar projects I might entertain the possibility. The opposite is very much true unfortunately.



This thing is now expensive way way beyond any comparable project on the planet and I have not heard a good explanation as to why which doesn't lead me to believe taxpayers are being taken for a massive ride by all involved.


still, the people want it to go forward asap:


Despite the soaring costs, regional transit advocates and politicians still call Gateway one of the most important transit projects in the country.

“Swallowing our lumps now will lead to a project completion without major cost or time overruns,” said Felicia Park-Rogers, director of regional infrastructure projects at Tri-State Transportation Campaign. “This project remains vital to our regional and national economies and transportation networks.”

https://gothamist.com/news/hudson-ri...-further-delay

k1052 Sep 5, 2022 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 9721115)
“Swallowing our lumps now will lead to a project completion without major cost or time overruns,” said Felicia Park-Rogers, director of regional infrastructure projects at Tri-State Transportation Campaign.

I think the idea that this project will come in on time and on budget, absurd as both figures are now, is remote to say the least. I probably won't be alive to say I told you so though.

TowerDude Sep 5, 2022 1:20 PM

I think the President needs to intervene with the Gateway Project to help drive its costs down and speed it up.

mrnyc Sep 5, 2022 3:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 9721651)
I think the idea that this project will come in on time and on budget, absurd as both figures are now, is remote to say the least. I probably won't be alive to say I told you so though.

oh please. of course that silly sentiment is wrong, so no need, but the point that it needs to be done asap stands — and everybody wants it done — after all its literally life and death, economically and physically if it collapses after the next storm:

“This project remains vital to our regional and national economies and transportation networks.”

mrnyc Sep 5, 2022 3:23 PM

jeepers this could have been bad:



53-foot truck stuck under track of uptown subway line

By Kevin Duggan
Posted on September 1, 2022


The heavy hauler’s trailer got caught on the underside of the above-ground tracks at 10th Avenue and W. 207th Street in Inwood, according to a witness, which carries subway trains on the No. 1 line.

The big rig had a 53-foot-long trailer, which is not legal to drive on most New York City streets, but the onlooker said such large truck operators routinely break that law.



more:
https://www.amny.com/transit/53-foot...-subway-track/

and then you wonder why it doesnt happen more often.

the whole idea of allowing any gigantic highway semis into the city is just the stupidest thing in the first place.

Busy Bee Sep 5, 2022 4:15 PM

Semi trailers are basically tin cans, well aluminum and sheet covered plywood but essentially a tin can. Aside from disruption at street level i dont think they pose any threat to the structure of the elevated. But yes, it pisses me off beyond belief that these truckers would attemp to bring these things into thecity and worse yet the first patrol car it passed wouldnt immediately pull it over.

mrnyc Sep 5, 2022 6:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9721919)
Semi trailers are basically tin cans, well aluminum and sheet covered plywood but essentially a tin can. Aside from disruption at street level i dont think they pose any threat to the structure of the elevated. But yes, it pisses me off beyond belief that these truckers would attemp to bring these things into thecity and worse yet the first patrol car it passed wouldnt immediately pull it over.


this one looks to have been trying to creep under, but its nothing to be so cavalier about as at speed semi trucks can most certainly cause major damage to bridges and of course potentially the el tracks.

that nyc allows these long haul semi trucks in the city at all is bizarre as most major cities do not. plus they sit and idle unloading for long stretches of time when they do arrive. they need to transfer that merch to small trucks and vans out on the outer loop somewhere.

mrnyc Sep 6, 2022 12:26 AM

whats up with omny lately? delays:


2022-2023 NYC school year: Student MetroCards return; OMNY cards planned for next year

Published: Sep. 04, 2022, 9:00 a.m.
By Erik Bascome


During a January MTA Board committee meeting, acting fare payment systems director Amy Linden issued an update on OMNY, indicating that substantial completion of the project has been delayed by roughly 15 months, with associated costs increasing by over $100 million since a contract for the project was first awarded in November 2017.


more:
https://www.silive.com/education/202...next-year.html

Gantz Sep 6, 2022 9:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 9722200)
whats up with omny lately? delays:


2022-2023 NYC school year: Student MetroCards return; OMNY cards planned for next year

Published: Sep. 04, 2022, 9:00 a.m.
By Erik Bascome


During a January MTA Board committee meeting, acting fare payment systems director Amy Linden issued an update on OMNY, indicating that substantial completion of the project has been delayed by roughly 15 months, with associated costs increasing by over $100 million since a contract for the project was first awarded in November 2017.


more:
https://www.silive.com/education/202...next-year.html

As usual, MTA incompetence. Don't expect anything to change as everyone from the federal to state and local level wants to shovel more money into the MTA with little to no accountability for their operating budget and project costs.

DCReid Sep 9, 2022 5:56 PM

Construction on JFK's new $9.5 billion international terminal
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/phot...erminal-2022-2

chris08876 Sep 10, 2022 2:36 PM

Posted this in the Newark Penn thread. Quick slide set from a public meeting;


https://global.discourse-cdn.com/bus...653da7a6d.jpeg

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https://global.discourse-cdn.com/bus...7ee3a1d00.jpeg

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https://global.discourse-cdn.com/bus...83fa56962.jpeg

chris08876 Sep 10, 2022 2:45 PM

Gov. Kathy Hochul Announces Groundbreaking Of New Terminal For JFK International Airport

Video Link


Quote:

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) announced the groundbreaking of a new terminal at JFK International Airport.

mrnyc Sep 11, 2022 1:17 PM

the comeback in process:


NYC subways record highest daily ridership since start of pandemic
Clayton Guse, New York Daily News - Friday


NEW YORK — New York City subway ridership hit its highest level since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic as the school year kicked off.



more:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ny...ic/ar-AA11FdcP

dropdeaded209 Sep 11, 2022 1:32 PM

service is still beyond abysmal--let's call it a comeback when you don't have to wait 18 minutes for a train on a weekday morning.

ardecila Sep 12, 2022 4:09 PM

Newark Penn needs to dump that hideous pedestrian bridge and do a proper, pedestrian friendly apron.


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