Yeah, I guess that's true. Though I do think that the use of the *other* meaning of all words related to "economy" is quite a bit more prevalent.

food is less of a worry or so they say. at least cooked food. take out is touched as much as grocery food is. i dk i guess try to stick with what you know in your area. a funny thing is in ny cuomo said restaurant booze is ok to go for now too. i tested that last night and its true lol.

https://blog.bayareametro.gov/posts/...ed-coronavirus

I'm very unclear on why busses would be any safer. In fact, since busses are entirely enclosed and most cable car seating is effectively outdoors, seems to me cable cars might be a little safer. I know I wouldn't ride a bus right now.

Yes, Montreal bus drivers just open the back doors to busses from today onwards. They don't check cards or tickets.


One coronavirus case from yesterday had just transited on the metro before his/her test according to a local daily.

millenials best beware:

https://nypost.com/2020/03/18/millen...official-says/

Ideally you want to introduce as little into your house from outside your house as possible. But in reality, for most of us this is near impossible. If you don't order prepared take-out food, you are going to have to bring in food from supermarkets or order what's needed to cook it for delivery.

However, having food prep items delivered may have some advantage over take-out prepared food. That is, the take-out food you will handle and eat right away. The staples and uncooked food you may have delivered can go on a shelf for a few days and you can wash your hands after putting them away.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/h...-aerosols.html

I'm leery of them because (1) you don't know how long it took the food to get from the restaurant stove to you and it could be cold or unappetizing, (2) you have to tip the delivery person (20% is expected in SF and that's a significant addition to the cost of the meal), (3) it's one more possibly infected person handling not so much the food but the packaging materials.

^ i generally try to avoid delivery as well because i dislike the tipping part.

my legs work, i can easily walk a block or two to avoid an extra $5 - $10 leaving my wallet.

besides, a little fresh air is always a good idea.

I've got a little restaurant and bar node about a half mile from my house that we walk to all the time. There's been no official bar and restaurant shut down order yet in either Atlanta or the State of GA. Some of the businesses have opted to close on their own and others are still open. There's ugly shouting back and forth going on on FB between the closed places employees and the open places employees, and attempts to publicly out and shame people still going out for dinner and drinks.

As far as I know, even in places where there have been shut-downs, that's for in-house service only. I know in San Francisco, which has a "shelter in place" lockdown, they are still allowing--even encouraging as a way to keep as many places as possible from going under--take-out.

When it happens here, I would expect it to be the same thing. The places that have shut down are opting not to do that. They don't think they can be profitable at it (and I agree with them). My neighborhood draws people from all over the metro. It's a destination party scene. Those same people aren't going to make a trip to EAV for take out food. Everything about my neighborhood is the social vibe of hanging out and drinking. It's a very boozy neighborhood, and all these places make the lion's share of their profits on the liquor sales. We don't have the population base close by for it to be worthwhile for these places to attempt to eke it out with take out food only.

uh-oh, my wife just got off the phone with her sister.

she just got back late last week from a work trip to italy.

she and her husband now both have fevers and a cough.......... they're trying to get tested as we speak.


they're both in their early 40s, quite wealthy (ie. rock solid health insurance), active, and healthy, so they should be ok long term, but this is the first case of someone i personally know.

Hang in there.

Very sorry to hear. Keep us posted on how difficult it is (or conversely easy) for them to get tested. I'm still reading about horror stories of how tough it is to actually secure testing.

^^SF's techies have long been heavy users of not only prepared take-out food but also "meal kits" and any other way anybody can think of to get them back to coding with as little interruption as possible (certainly no time out for cooking). That's why so many of these delivery services got started here.

just walked past fully operational bars in st louis. mainly boomers!

cant wait to get parented at by a boomer.

Just some daily info:


https://healthnewshub.org/wp-content...-1-466x452.jpg
Credit: https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about...2&publicId=395

fixed that for you mon amie.

sherrod brown’s tweet is sobering ... and frightening:


Unemployment claims filed in Ohio:

Last Sunday: 536
This Sunday: 11,995
Monday: 36,645

https://twitter.com/SenSherrodBrown/...850296835?s=20

Hoping for the best.