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3rd&Brown Sep 28, 2020 9:09 PM

Northern Liberties is becoming the most compelling non-Center City neighborhood in the city for retail.

It will be interesting to see how 2nd & Girard evolves as well as all of those 1000s of apartments come on line in the vicinity between NoLibs and South Kensington. Add the waterfront on top of that and it's a demographers dream.

mcgrath618 Sep 28, 2020 9:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown (Post 9057063)
Northern Liberties is becoming the most compelling non-Center City neighborhood in the city for retail.

It will be interesting to see how 2nd & Girard evolves as well as all of those 1000s of apartments come on line in the vicinity between NoLibs and South Kensington. Add the waterfront on top of that and it's a demographers dream.

This is true, but Spring Garden is DEAD. Major improvements need to be made between this site and 10th.

eixample Sep 28, 2020 9:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kool-ski (Post 9057028)
Amazon been experimenting with a grocery concept that is different from its Whole Foods chain and unlike its Amazon Go, which is more like a convenience store with no cashier and more like a traditional grocery.

This is the first I've heard of this new Amazon grocery concept. Read a little about it and it doesn't sound all that exciting of a concept. We'll see though

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In addition to the new Amazon Go grocery stores, Amazon also plans to open dozens of its own supermarkets in major US cities separate from Whole Foods, the Wall Street Journal has reported. The Amazon stores will offer different, cheaper products than Whole Foods, including beauty and health items, according to the Journal.

The first one will be in Los Angeles. Janes from Amazon said "that's going to be a store with a more traditional checkout experience."

The separate banner could help Amazon court shoppers who are less interested in Whole Foods' organic fare. Moving outside of Whole Foods could also help Amazon reach different shoppers. New, cheaper Amazon stores could crack into Kroger (KR), Walmart (WMT) and other supermarkets' lower and middle-income customer bases.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/busin...ore/index.html

el don Sep 29, 2020 1:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mcgrath618 (Post 9057132)
This is true, but Spring Garden is DEAD. Major improvements need to be made between this site and 10th.

Probably has something to do with the projects running right behind it from 9th to 7th. They have been renovating the building that houses Trilogy recently on 6th. Between 9th and 10th isn't bad though, their is one vacant lot next to the coffee shop.

Worst part of spring garden to me is the dismal stretch between broad and 11th.

Redddog Sep 29, 2020 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by el don (Post 9057727)
Probably has something to do with the projects running right behind it from 9th to 7th. They have been renovating the building that houses Trilogy recently on 6th. Between 9th and 10th isn't bad though, their is one vacant lot next to the coffee shop.

Worst part of spring garden to me is the dismal stretch between broad and 11th.

This is all gonna fill in quick, I bet. This project will jump-start that.

reparcsyks Sep 29, 2020 4:01 PM

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Originally Posted by el don (Post 9057727)
Probably has something to do with the projects running right behind it from 9th to 7th. They have been renovating the building that houses Trilogy recently on 6th. Between 9th and 10th isn't bad though, their is one vacant lot next to the coffee shop.

Worst part of spring garden to me is the dismal stretch between broad and 11th.

The car-wash next to the church, across the street from the methadone clinic is one of the most uniquely American landscapes I've ever seen. Nothing says 2020 America like this intersection.

Knight Hospitaller Sep 29, 2020 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Redddog (Post 9057870)
This is all gonna fill in quick, I bet. This project will jump-start that.

Sometimes I wonder why things take so long, but a stretch like spring garden has “good bones“ and location in spades – too much to continue as a traffic ditch at grade.

McBane Sep 30, 2020 2:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown (Post 9057063)
Northern Liberties is becoming the most compelling non-Center City neighborhood in the city for retail.

It will be interesting to see how 2nd & Girard evolves as well as all of those 1000s of apartments come on line in the vicinity between NoLibs and South Kensington. Add the waterfront on top of that and it's a demographers dream.

This location seems very Amazon-ish. But the locations of their suburban stores are...interesting. KoP or the Main Line. Would have been cool in Suburban Square.

Also, it appears that Philly's cash law did not in fact deter Amazon from entering the market. These stores are typically cashless?

eixample Sep 30, 2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by McBane (Post 9058710)
This location seems very Amazon-ish. But the locations of their suburban stores are...interesting. KoP or the Main Line. Would have been cool in Suburban Square.

Also, it appears that Philly's cash law did not in fact deter Amazon from entering the market. These stores are typically cashless?

From what I understand, this is not *that* kind of Amazon grocery store. This will be more of a traditional grocery with regular check out lanes not a convenience store with no traditional check outs like the Amazon Go concept. I have a post a little bit above that describes this.

Redddog Sep 30, 2020 2:13 PM

The only odd thing about an Amazon store here is that it's literally right across the street from a huge new Target.

summersm343 Feb 18, 2021 6:52 PM

Permits Issued For A 373-Unit High-Rise At 521 Spring Garden Street

Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2021/02/521-...ladelphia.html

PHLtoNYC Feb 19, 2021 9:33 PM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 9194553)
Permits Issued For A 373-Unit High-Rise At 521 Spring Garden Street

Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2021/02/521-...ladelphia.html

Good to see this moving along. Between this and the new project between Green and Fairmount, this will be a huge change for that area. (it needs the change).

3rd&Brown Feb 20, 2021 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Redddog (Post 9059101)
The only odd thing about an Amazon store here is that it's literally right across the street from a huge new Target.

Not odd at all. Retailers tend to do better when clustered together, even when they overlap a bit in their offering.

Having these two near each other increases what we call the "funnel" in retailing. It brings more people to both locations, so even if conversion or AOV takes a hit, overall revenue per location will likely increase.

summersm343 Apr 2, 2021 3:44 PM

Construction Anticipated For A 373-Unit High-Rise At 501 Spring Garden Street

Rendering:
https://phillyyimby.com/wp-content/u..._b-777x389.jpg

Current site:
https://phillyyimby.com/wp-content/u...7-1024x683.jpg

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No signs of construction have yet been observed at the site of a major apartment building proposed at 501 Spring Garden Street in the booming Northern Liberties neighborhood in North Philadelphia. Designed by Bower Lewis Thrower Architects and developed by Neal and Victor Rodin, the structure will stand 153 feet and 13 stories tall and will feature 373 apartments as well as abundant retail space at the ground floor.
Read/view more here:
https://phillyyimby.com/2021/03/cons...ladelphia.html

Knight Hospitaller Apr 2, 2021 4:40 PM

That’s like anticipating the Eschaton. It’ll happen… Eventually.

City Wide Apr 4, 2021 5:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller (Post 9236781)
That’s like anticipating the Eschaton. It’ll happen… Eventually.

"Eschaton", are you trying to raise the tone of the discussion around here?! Is eschaton a new type of re-bar or something, maybe something to do with the curtain wall. Was it going to be used in the ACC? No hurry for the answer, we've got all the time in the world!

Philly Fan Apr 4, 2021 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 9238129)
No hurry for the answer, we've got all the time in the world!

Well, all the time that's LEFT. :stunned:

mcgrath618 May 21, 2021 2:50 PM

From the Lowrise Thread:

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Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC (Post 9287657)
NoLibs site trades for $16M, clearing the way for Amazon grocery store and apartment complex

The developer plans to construct a 13-story building with 382 apartments and underground parking with 206 spaces.

Construction expected to begin in 60-90 days. :)

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...Pos=0#cxrecs_s


reparcsyks May 21, 2021 3:38 PM

Anybody want to tailgate while watching this hideous stripmall/nightmare being demo'd?

mcgrath618 May 21, 2021 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by reparcsyks (Post 9287732)
Anybody want to tailgate while watching this hideous stripmall/nightmare being demo'd?

Hell, I’ll take the Cardinal back to Philly to come watch.


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