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Tetsu Dec 21, 2013 2:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6379991)

There's actually a piece of this home still in existence - well, the guest house anyway. When this Fenyes mansion was demolished to be replaced by the one currently on the site, the old guest house was moved to 1212 Lida Street in the Linda Vista area of Pasadena.

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8a88da59.jpgGSV

Colonel Mustard Dec 21, 2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6380807)
More than wild animals in Griffith Park

Here is a new (to us at NLA anyway) photograph of murder victim Jean Spangler superimposed over Griffith Park's Fern Dell Canyon.
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/6924/oknx.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5201259

In re: Jean Spangler, has anyone here read Megan Abbott's "The Song is You"? She's a contemporary author who writes in the noir style, and at least two of her novels have been inspired by real-life events. ("The Song is You," of course, involves Spangler's disappearance, while her fourth novel, "Bury Me Deep," is sort of a retelling of the Winnie Ruth Judd case.)

I haven't gotten around to either book yet, but they're both on my holiday reading list!

HossC Dec 21, 2013 4:13 PM

I don't think we've seen this picture before. It shows a few businesses on the corner of South Central Avenue and E 50th Street. USC describes it as "Drugstore, beauty salon, and automotive garage on the 5100 [sic] block of Central Avenue, September 1933".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mannDrugs1.jpg
USC Digital Library

Going through the 1936 CD yields the following details for the businesses:

Albert Baumann drugs 5000 S Central Av
Steve McKinney (tailor) 5002 S Central Av
Izola Beauty shop 5002½ S Central Av
Wayne A Safford (auto repairs) 5006 S Central Av
Philip Greenberg (second-hand) Furniture Store 5010 S Central Av
Andrew L Wallace physician 5010½ S Central Av

Here's a close-up of the drugstore.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mannDrugs2.jpg
Detail of photo above.

Now :(.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mannDrugs3.jpg
GSV

OutlawImages Dec 21, 2013 7:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcork (Post 6220842)


Arrow shows how 86-year old man, Frederick Morris, leaped to his death at Park La Brea Apartments. Suicide victim lays covered on the steps leading into the building. Photograph dated August 9, 1955.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics22/00045539.jpg
LAPL
LAPL

Isn't it odd there is a dead body laying there and yet not a single person (not even law enforcement) is anywhere to be seen?

None in windows or on ground seems odd to me

Today there would be crowds all over as we know

Wonder why??

rbpjr Dec 21, 2013 7:27 PM

Here's a close-up of the drugstore.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mannDrugs2.jpg
Detail of photo above.

Now :(.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mannDrugs3.jpg
GSV[/QUOTE]

So many of the "Now" photos are so, well, sad. I lived on 106th Street near San Pedro in the late forties...would love to see some of the "Then" photos of buildings on San Pedro or Avalon, in that area, from those days...there was a furniture store on 106th and Avalon that I would be interested in seeing...

GaylordWilshire Dec 21, 2013 7:39 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B...addr.jpg?gl=US


Here's another Wilshire Boulevard house: fruit packer and inventor Edwin T. Earl, one of the biggest of BSDs of turn-of-the-century Los Angeles, hired Ernest Coxhead to design his new house in Gaylord Wilshire's original subdivision. The San Francisco architect designed a shingle version that burned before completion; he then redesigned it in brick. It stood at the northeast corner of Carondelet from 1899 to 1957.

The full story of 2425 Wilshire is here.

More here.

OutlawImages Dec 21, 2013 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6221455)
This is most amazing wojtko! I assume this is CGI or computer graphics.


That work is amazing!!!

Please do more :)

CityBoyDoug Dec 21, 2013 8:26 PM

The march of time....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 6382102)
Here's a close-up of the drugstore.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mannDrugs2.jpg
Detail of photo above.

Now :(.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mannDrugs3.jpg
GSV

So many of the "Now" photos are so, well, sad. I lived on 106th Street near San Pedro in the late forties...would love to see some of the "Then" photos of buildings on San Pedro or Avalon, in that area, from those days...there was a furniture store on 106th and Avalon that I would be interested in seeing...[/QUOTE]

rbpjr....Many people are not aware that various and sundry parts of Los Angeles have decayed into Third World Status. We see it in this photo. I won't get into the reasons why but there's a reason.

HossC Dec 21, 2013 8:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 6382102)
So many of the "Now" photos are so, well, sad. I lived on 106th Street near San Pedro in the late forties...would love to see some of the "Then" photos of buildings on San Pedro or Avalon, in that area, from those days...there was a furniture store on 106th and Avalon that I would be interested in seeing...

No sign of the furniture store yet, but this grocery store stood on the corner of 106th and Avalon in 1928.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...shGrocery1.jpg
USC Digital Library

The caption calls it '10525 Avalon Boulevard', but it was clearly 10599 Avalon Boulevard at some point in the past.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...shGrocery2.jpg
Detail of photo above.

I wasn't surprised to see that it had gone.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...shGrocery3.jpg
GSV

rbpjr Dec 21, 2013 11:50 PM

The caption calls it '10525 Avalon Boulevard', but it was clearly 10599 Avalon Boulevard at some point in the past.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...shGrocery2.jpg
Detail of photo above.

I wasn't surprised to see that it had gone.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...shGrocery3.jpg
GSV[/QUOTE]
In the late forties the furniture store would have been to the left...there was also a drug store next door (I think)...

rbpjr Dec 22, 2013 1:23 AM

I wasn't surprised to see that it had gone.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...shGrocery3.jpg
GSV[/QUOTE]

The concrete pad (in the "now" photo) fits the shape of the old store including the angled spot where the front door was. I did find (Google Street View) the (furniture) building, across the street, to still be there...but apartment buildings have replaced the drug store and other busineses that were there in the late 40's.

GaylordWilshire Dec 22, 2013 1:57 AM

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7432/soqe.jpgLAPL


A little more Avalon Blvd--closer to downtown. The nice little building above was at 4030 S Avalon, gone now. At the s/w corner of 41st Street is a survivor, despite once getting hit by a Dodge.... The apartment building behind 4101 is also still there.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...2520PM.bmp.jpgUSCDL

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-j...2520PM.bmp.jpgGSV

FredH Dec 22, 2013 4:44 AM

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7706/m8r5.jpg
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...446547&page=13

Three old schools, now in the path where a section of the Hollywood Freeway will be constructed, are being
razed on Fort Moore Hill to make way for the new thoroughfare. (1) is the Fort Hill School; (2) is the first high
school built in Los Angeles, and (3) is Central School. Everything between the broken lines will be cleared away
for the super-roadway, Photo dated: February 1, 1949.

Posted by BrerHair on www.jalopyjournal.com

Flyingwedge Dec 22, 2013 4:52 AM

RIP Hollywood Park 1938-2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 6371403)
Hollywood Park race track is shutting down in two weeks and will be demolished.

Any noirish historic images of the race track to post in its honor?

My thoughts exactly, Lwize. It's sad, but I think the end was foretold when Churchill Downs sold Hollywood Park to a land development company -- the same one that tore down Bay Meadows
race track (thanks, Churchill Downs). December 22, 2013, will be the last day of racing ever after 75 years.

Anyway, here's Hollywood Park under construction:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097843.jpg

The track opened in 1938; here's a 1946 aerial view looking east. Prairie Avenue runs across the bottom of the photo:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original
lafire.com -- http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/1...odParkFire.htm

A wide view of the clubhouse, June 16, 1938. Stiles O. Clements designed the clubhouse and grandstand, and Edward Huntsman-Trout was the landscape architect:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/32254/rec/5

A closer shot of the clubhouse entrance:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101561.jpg

South end of the grandstand, c. 1938:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101602.jpg

Clubhouse betting windows, June 16, 1938:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library -- http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/32258/rec/9

Cigarette girl:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101569.jpg

This aerial view is dated c. 1950, but was definitely taken prior to 1950. Century Blvd. runs across the top of the photo:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
USC Digital -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/10912/rec/2

On the night of May 5-6, 1949, the original clubhouse and grandstand burned down:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
lafire.com -- http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/1...odParkFire.htm

The things that look like little stop signs are actually folding seats:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original
Calisphere -- http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...and=calisphere

A closer shot:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...3.jpg~original
lafire.com -- http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/1...odParkFire.htm

LAFD Truck 66 firemen operate a portable monitor:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
lafire.com -- http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/1...odParkFire.htm

The fire made the cover of The Firemen's Grapevine:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original
lafire.com -- http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/1...odParkFire.htm

But the plant was rebuilt in 1950; here's a 1961 aerial. The clubhouse entrance is on the right:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
Calisphere -- http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...and=calisphere

Clubhouse entrance, 1960:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original
Calisphere -- http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...and=calisphere

1960:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original
Calisphere -- http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...and=calisphere

A new aluminum rail was installed in 1954:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original
USC Digital -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../83050/rec/105

Here's Hollywood Park's 1959 Goose Girl (their title, not mine):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original
USC Digital -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../77145/rec/101

Hollywood Park was known as the Track of Lakes & Flowers, as seen in this September 1969 photo:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
Calisphere -- http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...and=calisphere

If you can take your eyes off that brown AMC Hornet, you'll see the outside of the track in May 1977:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original
Calisphere -- http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...and=calisphere

But the large crowds stopped coming. Here's opening day 1959:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original
USC Digital -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/77121/rec/2

Next four are December 20, 2013, by me:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original

Looks like Desi had a winner:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...1.jpg~original

sadykadie2 Dec 22, 2013 7:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6364998)
-another Los Angeles barber shop scene. -be sure to pan right to see all the reflections -->
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/6408/ftyo.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img560/996/9ey6.jpgebay

When I was a little boy my barber's name was Snuffy Bart. He was like 4 feet tall and had to stand on a box.
__

Ethereal, that is funnier than heck. Had a good long laugh. Like something out of a Woody Allen book

sadykadie2 Dec 22, 2013 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 6363978)
I see that the palm trees are still there in '68, although thirty years taller. I wonder if they are still there now.

What a travesty. Why?WHY?:uhh:

LesT21 Dec 22, 2013 8:37 AM

New member to the site. Found it while searching for the Portal Motor Motel.

Several years ago, I bought a framed picture in a junk store in Cayucos, CA. It is a b/w of a lady posing in the nude with a freeway in the background. Obviously from the 1950's because of the cars. In the background across from her is the Portal Motor Motel, arch readable with magnification. Freeway signs noting 'Hollywood Bowl' and 'Highland Ave.' are readable also. It was such an unusual photo, nicely framed, with this phrase on the matting below the photo "Let me sit by my house at the side of the road, And be a friend of woman.", that I had to buy it.

Have been trying on and off to figure out where she is posing. Now thanks to this post, I'm pretty sure I have it pinpointed. The key was the motel. I thought the Bowl was behind the photographer. Actually it is behind the motel and the view is looking almost perfectly due south. It is very close to the one photo here with the construction equipment in the foreground.

On the back is a photographer's stamp with the name Orman S Longstreet, 5453 Virginia Ave., Hollywood 29 California. It requests he be credited in any byline or use of the photo. I'll black out the lady's torso, credit Longstreet and upload a lower resolution scan of it later.

Tourmaline Dec 22, 2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6382446)
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7706/m8r5.jpg
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...446547&page=13

Three old schools, now in the path where a section of the Hollywood Freeway will be constructed, are being
razed on Fort Moore Hill to make way for the new thoroughfare. (1) is the Fort Hill School; (2) is the first high
school built in Los Angeles, and (3) is Central School. Everything between the broken lines will be cleared away
for the super-roadway, Photo dated: February 1, 1949.

Posted by BrerHair on www.jalopyjournal.com

;)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8353

Chuckaluck Dec 22, 2013 12:07 PM

Angel's flight is one subject with so much coverage here that I have dispensed with prior links. Suffice it to say, I have not noticed this celebratory image before.



1910 - per source
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...DTGQN7AIDL.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...DTGQN7AIDL.jpg




couldn't resist

http://postcardmemory.files.wordpres...els-flight.jpghttp://postcardmemory.files.wordpres...els-flight.jpghttp://postcardmemory.files.wordpres...els-flight.jpg

GaylordWilshire Dec 22, 2013 3:57 PM

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...ps996ccb17.jpgAvoiding Regret


I just came across some sad pictures on a very interesting blog:

http://www.avoidingregret.com/2013/0...me-chapel.html



I haven't gone through all her posts, but here's one on Paul Williams's 28th Street Y:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...ps122a16bd.jpgAvoiding Regret

http://www.avoidingregret.com/2013/1...-williams.html



And one on Castle Green:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...psd602d81e.jpgAvoiding Regret

http://www.avoidingregret.com/2013/1...house-old.html


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