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ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2011 5:40 PM

Welcome to the thread Horthos!
If you have photos to share...It would be great to see the interiors of the Alexandria Hotel.
In it's time, it was arguably the most lavish hotel downtown.

below: The Alexandria Hotel lobby after a 1936 renovation.
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Handsome Stranger Aug 4, 2011 7:31 PM


Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5368216)
I don't suppose you have Three Guys Named Mike on hand, do you, HS? Jane Wyman and the other American Airlines stewardesses lived in a real bungalow neighborhood in LA....

I don't, but I discovered that it's available over here at the Internet Archive. I tried skimming through the embedded video but didn't find shots of the bungalow. And TCM will be running it August 30th...I'll take another look then.

sopas ej, thanks for the photo of Carmen Miranda. Coincidentally, earlier this week I listened to a very good three-part BBC radio documentary about Carmen. I think I need to look again at some of her movies. In fact there are a few I've never seen.

gsjansen Aug 4, 2011 7:35 PM

a stumbled upon a blog page, Piedmont Avenue, that is hosted by a gentleman named Dorian.

he has a posting titled, Dorian's Bunker Hill Los Angeles Page
My recollections of Bunker Hill
, which has several color photographic images taken by him and his father on and around angels flight on it's last day of operation in may of 1969.

what really caught my eye though, are these two images taken of the Castle and The Salt Box after being relocated to Heritage Square. Not only are they in color, but these are the only images i have ever seen of them at heritage square where they weren't on fire or smoldering ruins.
Source: Dorian's Bunker Hill Los Angeles Page
Source: Dorian's Bunker Hill Los Angeles Page

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 4, 2011 10:45 PM

Jonathan Club
A beautiful 1909 postcard, currently on e-bay, showing the roof garden of the Jonathan Club when it occupied the top floors of the Pacific Electric Building (nee Huntington Bldg.) at 6th and Main.

I would assume you accessed the roof garden through the ballroom (below) that was previously pictured in the thread.


ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2011 12:07 AM

^^^That is an excellent find Fab_Fifties_Fan!
I had no idea there was a roof garden atop the old P.E. Building at 6th & Main.
The architecture surrounding the garden is surreal.....much more flamboyant than the staid exterior.
The most surprising is the grand staircase leading down to the garden area.

GaylordWilshire Aug 5, 2011 12:36 AM

The JC, 1910.

(Reminds me of the rooftop café of the old Madison Square Garden, where Stanford White was shot.)

sopas ej Aug 5, 2011 12:51 AM

Wow, the rooftop of the Pacific Electric Building was nice!

Here's what it looks like now:
Photo Credit, Floyd B. Bariscale

Meh. All cluttered and shitty.

Horthos Aug 5, 2011 3:21 AM

Thanks ethereal...
I only wish it looked that decent nowadays in the lobby. With the installment of the 2nd floor during WWll, you wouldnt have a clue that it at one time looked so nice, its very plain and dull now. The only upside is that they did keep all of the detailed ceiling work, only now you can only see it if you go into the "mezz bar".
The average person here doesnt realize that this was once the ceiling of the lobby, they just think that it was some crazy overly detailed really low ceilinged bar.

cleats Aug 5, 2011 5:21 AM

Parnassus and the Alexandria
Back in the 60's I used to be a delivery boy in downtown and used to take envelopes to George Parnassus in his office at the Alexandria. He was Mister Big in west coast boxing and had no fear since his office was filled with the toughest bunch of mugs in LA who all bowed to him. The Alexandria was less than grand in those days and the bar downstairs looked like something out of a might very well see these two dudes holding up a couple of stools in there.
And Thanks Christina for getting these scanned so I can ramble on about the olden days.

Sebisebster Aug 5, 2011 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger
Out of curiosity I've got a question for all and sundry here: do you regularly read and/or participate in other websites or blogs that focus on Los Angeles? If so, what are they?

There are three or four others in my bookmarks that I look at now and then, but I don't visit them quite as often nor enjoy them as much as I do Noirish Los Angeles.

NOT in any particular order, mind you

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5366283)
NOT in any particular order, mind you ;)

...and do not forget my own thread:

In spanish language! Use your google translator! Hugs!

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GaylordWilshire Aug 5, 2011 6:16 PM


Originally Posted by Horthos (Post 5368686)

Ive been reading this thread now off and on for the past couple months, and I figured I might as well join in and contribute some stuff. Ill introduce myself a bit here...

I live in downtown LA on 5th and spring in the Alexandria hotel, and although I am only 21 and have lived down here only for a few months, its been a fantastic experience so far (I used to live in van nuys...which wasnt). I have always had a fascination with architecture, and have been coming down here for years just to wander around and see things. As for this forum, I hope I can provide some useful information and photos, and learn even more from you all.

Horthos-- the brick this little boy is laying is the first of the
Alexandria Hotel, as seen in the Los Angeles Herald on
April 9, 1905. Behind him are his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Albert
Clay Bilicke. Mr. Bilicke and Robert A. Rowan, at right, were
involved in many early-20th-century real estate develop-
ments in L.A. (On his own Rowan developed Windsor Square--
Lorraine Boulevard is named for his daughter.)

ethereal_reality Aug 6, 2011 12:58 AM

Horthos, thanks for sharing your photos of the Alexandria Hotel.
I am relieved the elaborate ceiling has survived, despite the fact the lobby was cut (horizontally) in half!!

I honestly believe it will be restored to it's original grandeur some time in the future.

ethereal_reality Aug 6, 2011 1:23 AM

Below is a postcard view of yet another renovation of the Alexandria Hotel lobby (perhaps the early 1950s).

below: A booth in the 'Gentlemen's Club' of the Alexandria Hotel, circa 1910 (very elaborate for a booth...looks more like a shrine).

below: Years later, a view of the 'Masque Room', a step-down bar in the Alexandria Hotel.

Any ideas where this was located Horthos?


Handsome Stranger Aug 6, 2011 2:16 AM

Thanks for that link, Sebisebster. It'll be a good way for me learn a little more Spanish. ¡Qué Guay!

And I just found out this afternoon that I'll be starting a short job at the Dominguez Building on Wilshire next week! ¡Magnifico!
[source: USC Digital Library]

GaylordWilshire Aug 6, 2011 1:09 PM
Her first Hollywood home: 1344 N. Ogden Drive
Her longtime Beverly Hills home: 1000 N. Roxbury Drive, now sadly destroyed by a generic '90s remodel

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 6, 2011 5:42 PM

My idol's 100th
Thanks for posting that great picture of Lucy clowning around and the pictures of her homes GaylordWilshire!!!

I am an admitted Lucy fanatic and have been collecting Lucy memorabilia for years! Being a child of the 50's, Lucy, in a sense, helped raise me.

The moniker 'Fab Fifties Fan' is completely due to my obsession with Lucy and pretty much everything from the 50's. Here are some pictures of my idol that I love!!!

Lucy 1942

One of my very favorite I Love Lucy episodes

Beautiful Lucy 1963

And my absolute pride and joy of almost 17 years, my 1958 Cadillac Coupe deVille originally purchased on 11/07/57 at Lou Ehlers Cadillac by Mrs. Lucille D. Arnaz of 1000 N. Roxbury Drive Beverly Hills, Calif. My girl (also named Lucy :)) is always a hit at car shows:multibow!!! Can you just imagine how beautiful that redhead looked driving this car???



all photos personal collection

gsjansen Aug 6, 2011 5:46 PM

I love Lucy and she loves me
We're as happy as two can be
Sometimes we quarrel but then
How we love making up again

Lucy kisses like no one can
She's my Mrs. and I'm her man
And life is heaven you see
'cause I love Lucy
Yes I love Lucy
and Lucy loves me

lucy and desi leaving the desilu stuidos on gower, the old rko studios 1958

and of course, the fabulous view outside the recardo suite at the beverly palms

sopas ej Aug 6, 2011 6:01 PM

Speaking of which, the Hollywood Museum currently has an exhibit called "Lucille Ball at 100 and 'I Love Lucy' at 60." I'm thinking of going there today. I love me some "I Love Lucy"! :)

Aug. 4 - Nov. 30
“Lucille Ball at 100 & ‘I Love Lucy’ at 60”

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 6, 2011 6:15 PM


Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5371031)
Speaking of which, the Hollywood Museum currently has an exhibit called "Lucille Ball at 100 and 'I Love Lucy' at 60." I'm thinking of going there today. I love me some "I Love Lucy"! :)

Aug. 4 - Nov. 30
“Lucille Ball at 100 & ‘I Love Lucy’ at 60”

Have fun sopas_ej! We're driving up tomorrow to see the exhibit:D

Tony in Glendale Aug 6, 2011 7:01 PM


Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5363987)

According to this online inflation calculator that $450 down payment was the equivalent of $4,344 now, and that monthly payment would be $666 a month today. Not sure what the terms were, I think financing a car for 5 years was rare or nonexistent then but I'm not sure.

The Big 3 (GM, Ford and Chrysler) didn't really come out with any new car designs until the 1949 model year, the facelifted pre-war designs they had sold like hotcakes for the first few years after the war so they didn't need anything new.

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