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GaylordWilshire Feb 28, 2017 1:16 PM

Anyone familiar with Cheviot Hills/Monte Mar Vista/WLA? Trying to identify this house...it appears in two different Hal Roach 1930s short comedies in the '30s--Mixed Nuts and Luncheon at Twelve. It may have been in/may still be not too far from the site of the Hal Roach Studios. (Or elsewhere in the city. Could it have been an actual achool? I'm noticing what may be a long wing at left in the first view....unless this is another house)....


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ze...w=w864-h648-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/c-...g=w865-h648-no

Tourmaline Feb 28, 2017 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5687663)


6508 Hollywood Blvd. The structure that housed the Iris was evidently replaced in 1971. Demo permit mentions "existing fire gutted building." https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1016...8i6656!6m1!1e1 BPs indicate original construction in 1917. Some confusion exists since the business known as the Iris theater :previous: did, in fact, move across to the south side of the street to 6415 Hollywood Blvd. See bottom. For additional info try: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/27300


http://1.fwcdn.pl/po/15/66/181566/7573229.6.jpghttp://1.fwcdn.pl/po/15/66/181566/7573229.6.jpg

Don't believe anyone commented on the Charles Ray marquee, "The Family Skeleton." Ray has received significant NLA, both for his studio on Sunset and his 1923 production of The Courtship of Miles Standish and its big non-floating prop. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=32592 Evidently, Adolph Zukor was well ahead of Ray's legendary penchant for ignoring financial advice or courting financial ruin.
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By 1920, [Ray] was earning a reported $11,000 a week. Around this time, he left Paramount after studio head Adolph Zukor refused to give him a pay raise. Zukor later wrote in his autobiography, The Public Is Never Wrong, that Ray's ego had gotten out of hand and that Ray "... was headed for trouble and [I] did not care to be with him when he found it." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ray_(actor)
http://silenthollywood.com/sitebuild...R3-374x520.jpghttp://silenthollywood.com/sitebuild...R3-374x520.jpg


The Family Skeleton was a 1918 3-reeler that also featured Andrew Arbuckle, Roscoe's cousin. Andrew's brother Macklyn, was also in "the" business and is reputedly remembered for the line "Nobody loves a fat man," when he played the character Sheriff "Slim" Hoover in the play The Roundup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macklyn_Arbuckle



Andrew Arbuckle, center. Charles Ray, right.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._of_Spades.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._of_Spades.jpg



:hmmm:

Chris Cooper
http://www.unsportsmanlike-conduct.c...97125.jpeg?375http://www.unsportsmanlike-conduct.c...97125.jpeg?375
http://r3sub.com/images/gallery/2003...329575/b13.jpghttp://r3sub.com/images/gallery/2003...329575/b13.jpg (Seabiscuit won the Santa Anita Derby in '37.)



The very pretty Iris theater.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...7d3a9db4ea.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...7d3a9db4ea.jpg



To the immediate right. Same business, new address (6415 Hollywood Blvd.), new marquee. Neil Hamilton! :cool:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00008/00008113.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00008/00008113.jpg

Tourmaline Feb 28, 2017 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6165749)
Looking east on 3rd Street from above the tunnel next to Angels Flight:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps42373cb9.jpg
Huntington Digital Library -- http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/12405/rec/1



From the other direction, with a splash of color by artist Millard Sheets.:yes:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...c6011b6133.jpghttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...c6011b6133.jpg

http://laeastside.com/wp-content/upl...ngelsFligh.jpghttp://laeastside.com/wp-content/upl...ngelsFligh.jpg


https://ahbelab.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=922&h=791https://ahbelab.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=922&h=791


Another artist's interpretation from http://onbunkerhill.org/tag/angels_flight/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/...a14ca585_o.gifhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/...a14ca585_o.gif

Again, well worth a look-see.http://onbunkerhill.org/tag/angels_flight/



https://postcardmemory.files.wordpre...-flight-03.jpghttps://postcardmemory.files.wordpre...-flight-03.jpg




Millard Sheets' work is evocative of several NLA topics, not the least of which is Lorendoc's recent Academy Rd. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=40141 post.http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=40141 (BPs indicate the Academy Rd. structure was/is a duplex - a perfect hangout for all the neighborhood kids - at least for a group photo when school was not in session. (The structure was listed as a duplex, a perfect hangout for all the neighborhood kids - when school was not in session - and a great place for a group photo. :P)

"Sunset Tenements" also by M. Sheets.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5XzU42q-nz...d%2BSheets.pnghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5XzU42q-nz...d%2BSheets.png



Sheets was also responsible for this work, curiously entitled "Angel's Flight."
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ffz07c4Fj...e5%2B-%2B1.jpghttps://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ffz07c4Fj...e5%2B-%2B1.jpg



https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1092/3...95880b99_b.jpghttps://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1092/3...95880b99_b.jpg




Hold the mayo?


Should anyone scrounge enough coin, there are several places to grab a sandwich.
https://www.incollect.com/sites/uploads/fig0312.jpghttps://www.incollect.com/sites/uploads/fig0312.jpg

CityBoyDoug Feb 28, 2017 6:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7726353)
From the other direction, with a splash of color by artist Millard Sheets.:yes:


Tour
Wonderful artwork.....thanks for posting.....LA art is always welcome.

Tourmaline Feb 28, 2017 6:59 PM

Then I guess you won't mind this image: "Apparition over Los Angeles" by Barse Miller (1932).;)
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/07...31501332045795





http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5259/...cedda9e2_b.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3133



http://la.curbed.com/2014/4/21/10112...as-echo-park-1

HossC Feb 28, 2017 8:00 PM

I have to admit that Maria Bergson was not a name I was familiar with until I found these Julius Shulman pictures. As well as being an interior designer, she was also an architect, and designed this house. This is "Job 2393: Maria Bergson, Maria Bergson Office (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1957". You won't be surprised to hear that I've left a few photos out.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Those chairs look more like satellite dishes (or washing baskets).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

A small, but neatly designed kitchen. Notice that the burners on the hob are built into the worktop. The tap mechanism looks very complicated.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

Electrical outlets so close to the basin doesn't seem like such a great idea.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

There aren't any good views of the bedroom, but this gives an idea.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

I'll finish with one of the color images.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The house is still standing at 8749 Holloway Drive, West Hollywood. Maria Bergson only died in 2009, but the current resident, The Law Offices Of Bruce M Margolin, is listed as far back as the 1987 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
GSV

CityBoyDoug Feb 28, 2017 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7726414)

Rev.Aimee Semple McPherson was an American Pentecostal phenomenon even before she went missing for five weeks in 1926.**

Most historians, including myself, firmly believe that Rev. Aimee had disappeared with her boy-toy lover, married man Kenneth Ormiston for a romantic fling in up-coast motels.
Many wild stories were told but that's the only one that sticks to the wall.

I guess Rev Aimee was able to effect her ''miracles'' on Kenneth.

**Finally after 5 weeks Sister Aimee popped up mysteriously in Arizona claiming she had been kidnapped by two Mexican
bandidos at the California beach [5 weeks previously.]. None of that story has ever been proven to be factual.

Here he is: Ken Ormiston, her long-time ''radio manager".....noir at its finest.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps1w6jy6fx.jpg
Flickr file

ScottyB Feb 28, 2017 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7726493)
A small, but neatly designed kitchen. Notice that the burners on the hob are built into the worktop. The tap mechanism looks very complicated.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

the Dishmaster faucet system was a standard item in our house- Dad claimed it saved on water. Ha! I used to booby-trap it so it would spray inattentive users when they turned the faucet on.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3679/3...d1a88d2aff.jpg
http://retrorenovation.com/2014/03/1...cet-installed/

tovangar2 Feb 28, 2017 10:32 PM

:previous:

That looks very like the kitchen tap I was trying to describe to CBD a couple of dozen pages back. The one I recall lit up, to indicate temperature I think. Everything (including the kitchen sink) was supposed to have a "control panel" back then.




ETA, Thx Scotty, I didn't know what it was called. Were the water controls push buttons?



P.S.

Yikes, they still make them (not electrified though):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2v...=w1238-h340-no
houzz

"Unit kitchens" are still manufactured too

ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2017 10:58 PM

'mystery' street.


This screen_grab is from a relatively unknown movie called 'Speed Devils'. [c.1935]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/tGaSlg.jpg
https://noirencyclopedia.wordpress.c...d-devils-1935/


I'm pretty sure the street you see through the 'windshield' is somewhere in Los Angeles.
I thought the building on the left is unique enough that one of you fine sleuths might recognize it.


The movie is also known as 'Thru Traffic'.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/RKjKsr.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027030/



the screen_grab is from
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/3hHp9s.jpg
https://noirencyclopedia.wordpress.c...d-devils-1935/


I haven't watched the complete movie yet (it's available online at youtube), but the bits and pieces that I have watched appear
to have been filmed on studio sets.

ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2017 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 7726041)
Starsky and Hutch are being chased in the Striped Tomato by the bad guys.

http://i.imgur.com/0AOiTov.jpg
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2...t-1_shortfilms

:previous: Very cool Lorendoc. How in the heck did you remember this one scene?

Thanks t2, for pointing out that the 522 Club sign is still there. (it hadn't occurred to me to go and look)

Now we need to figure out what the 522 Club was.

HossC Feb 28, 2017 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7726708)

'mystery' street.

This screen_grab is from a relatively unknown movie called 'Speed Devils'. [c.1935]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/tGaSlg.jpg
https://noirencyclopedia.wordpress.c...d-devils-1935/

I'm pretty sure the street you see through the 'windshield' is somewhere in Los Angeles.
I thought the building on the left is unique enough that one of you fine sleuths might recognize it.

The ambulance scene is only a couple of seconds long. The vehicle makes a 90 degree turn immediately before the picture above - this is the first view through the windshield. Maybe the streetcar will help identify the location.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ruTraffic1.jpg
Melbert Productions

BTW Did any ambulances really have letters that big across the front? It seems to block a lot of the view, so I'm guessing it was just for the movie audience.

ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2017 11:37 PM

:previous: Thanks for your help Hoss.


The area beneath my red arrow looks intriguing. (is it a balcony with pillars?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/NqDEWx.jpg
detail

_____







I just saw this postcard on ebay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/9ICGah.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-...EAAOSwx2dYIXff


I thought it was a bit surprising that a parking garage would be the main subject of a postcard.

(at first glance I thought this was the garage the 'Elephant Parade' was walking past)

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CityBoyDoug Mar 1, 2017 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7726679)
:previous:
Yikes, they still make them (not electrified though):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2v...=w1238-h340-no
houzz

"Unit kitchens" are still manufactured too

Pure happiness.! Queen for a Day (TV Series 1956–1964)...Jack Bailey

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psemzcnkhr.jpg
retroworld

His bombastic overarching introduction was ...."Would you like to be Queen... for a Day?" It was filmed at the Earl Carroll Theatre on Sunset Blvd.

tovangar2 Mar 1, 2017 1:46 AM

Grand Central Garage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7726753)

I thought it was a bit surprising that a parking garage would be the main subject of a postcard.


__

Yeah but that was a beautiful garage:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7722106)


ethereal_reality Mar 1, 2017 1:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7726090)
Anyone familiar with Cheviot Hills/Monte Mar Vista/WLA? Trying to identify this house...it appears in two different Hal Roach 1930s short comedies in the '30s--Mixed Nuts and Luncheon at Twelve. It may have been in/may still be not too far from the site of the Hal Roach Studios. (Or elsewhere in the city. Could it have been an actual achool? I'm noticing what may be a long wing at left in the first view....unless this is another house)....


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ze...w=w864-h648-no

:previous: Interesting challenge GW.




Maybe we should start by checking out the residential streets near the studios.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/iLCR5p.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pietsc...ream/lightbox/

tovangar2 Mar 1, 2017 2:56 AM


Five people died during the construction of the Third Street Tunnel, all in cave-ins. There were also a distressing number of injuries.

W. F. Brown and Michael Lobro died in separate incidents in 1899.

Maj. W. T. Lambie, John Vincentini and W. J. Pauley were killed in the
disaster of 21 Jan 1900.

All were workmen, except Maj. Lambie, who was a city inspector.

Los Angeles Herald:

11 April 1899

25 November 1899

24 January 1900

ethereal_reality Mar 1, 2017 7:19 AM

I seem to recall a similar photograph on NLA, but I believe this might be new to the thread. (I don't remember the "Sunset Auto Park" sign...or the two cars)

It's labeled: "Spring Street, North of Downtown" -found in a box of pictures.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/SZYdYk.jpg

found here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g_clis...n/photostream/


I found a "Sunset Auto Camp" in the 1938 city directory, but the address was 525 San Fernando Road.

Lorendoc Mar 1, 2017 7:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7726718)
:previous: Very cool Lorendoc. How in the heck did you remember this one scene?

Thanks for pointing out that the 522 Club sign is still there t2. (it hadn't occurred to me to go and look)

Now we need to figure out what the 522 Club was.

The 522 Club was a dive bar with B-girls.

It made it into the pages of the LAT at least twice in the '50s:

http://i.imgur.com/eKPQ35e.jpg
LAT 12-13-1953

and:
http://i.imgur.com/51NjQcN.jpg
LAT 11-17-1955


As to the S&H find, an obsessive fan has created a web page with lists of all LA locations used in filming the four seasons the series ran. I found an entry for the 522 Club, which pointed me to the episode (they're all on YouTube) the exterior of the club was seen. I watched it (unfortunately not great television) and made a screen grab when I saw the club and posted it above.

ethereal_reality Mar 1, 2017 7:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc
The 522 Club was a dive bar with B-girls.

:previous: Oh that's great! Just what I hoped it was, ;) something NOIRISH.





Here's a color slide with an impressive depth of field.

The info didn't say, but this was no doubt taken from the top of City Hall.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/Uop9U9.png
ebay / several months ago

I didn't think it was possible to see the Southwest Museum from City Hall (I'm pretty sure that's what we see in the far distance)



Yep, it's possible.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/SUQDDQ.jpg
google_earth





The tall building (seen below) on the right.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/Vjsd47.png
detail



is now the Chinatown Senior Lofts, 808 N. Spring St.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/IJADo3.jpg
gsv


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