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If they want more affordable units, they need to change the zoning to allow for it. The market is there... given the housing crisis... the need, and so on. But it seems we rarely hear them push for larger projects. Even under current rules, if you change the total number of total units to be build, with a mix of market/affordable, the affordable unit count will increase. I don't think the politicians are really for the people, because if they were, they'd be pushing for more larger projects, and transit. The two ying-yangs of any city. |
We'll see what happens.
Some GoogleEarth images, and proximity to other sites... http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...b9PJMdt.g1.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...mSpkNYz.g2.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...MUo4WOV.g3.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...WKgRNWo.g4.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...L3Jba17.g5.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...1sK8FB.g6b.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...OVB5cY.g7b.JPG |
There's also that giant assemblage two blocks north on Fulton, as well as those two 70's-era lowrise office blocks, one of which is currently for sale as residential development site.
The Fulton corridor is gonna be one of the most impressive in NYC in a couple of years. There could easily be a half-dozen 800 ft.+ towers. |
OT, but I wonder if they will ever take down the ugly radio tower at brooklyn tech
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Well that's awesome
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This is a project very much like 80 Flatbush, but it still needs the School Construction Authority approval for the school, which shouldn't be a problem. New York always needs more schools. And this tower will be so bulky that it needs every bit of extra height it can get. But you just know the NIMBYs will declare this armageddon. I can't wait to see how they try to trash this proposal. It will be entertaining.
https://i.giphy.com/media/vjwACwDxB0hZ6/giphy.webp https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-quality-vjwACwDxB0hZ6 The worst case scenario would be no approvals, and that 800 footer with all of the open space. No one wants that. 942 ft http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...appVQTN.d8.JPG 928 ft http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...34wSck.d13.JPG 864 ft http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...a5RnCV.d14.JPG 821 ft http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...mZl9PH.d12.JPG |
What will the nimby's do now ????
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Does 625 Fulton Street fall within the Zoning Guidelines that considers it technically "DOWNTOWN BROOKLYN" that will allow the building to rise to it's potential of 941 feet and is the property "As- Of-Right" ? I assume if the answers are yes to those questions, than the NIMBY's have no ground to stand on other than to vote it down at their respective Community Board Meeting and howl at the moon which will bare no weight. Therefore the City Planning Commission and "Full" City Council eventually renders it's final decision should it reach that stage is the only thing that matters. But you know how organized NIMBY's in NYC react and take action...They will attempt to examine every available loophole and persuade the resident City Councilman that represents that area similar to what happened at 80 Flatbush.....NYguy....WHAT'S YOUR INITIAL TAKE AND ANALYSIS ON THIS ???? |
NYguy.....My question in 2 parts about this development is this.
Does 625 Fulton Street fall within the Zoning Guidelines that considers it technically "DOWNTOWN BROOKLYN" that will allow the building to rise to it's potential of 941 feet and is the property "As- Of-Right" ? I assume if the answers are yes to those questions, than the NIMBY's have no ground to stand on other than to vote it down at their respective Community Board Meeting and howl at the moon which will bare no weight. Therefore the City Planning Commission and "Full" City Council eventually renders it's final decision should it reach that stage is the only thing that matters. But you know how organized NIMBY's in NYC react and take action...They will attempt to examine every available loophole and persuade the resident City Councilman that represents that area similar to what happened at 80 Flatbush.....NYguy....WHAT'S YOUR INITIAL TAKE AND ANALYSIS ON THIS ???? |
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According to the draft, the developers do plan to include up to 25% affordable units, although they are required to do so. Perhaps the local council member will push for a lock on a set number of units, or try to increase it a little more. That seems to be her initial concern. We know where the city stands on the proposal, based on the draft. http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...LDTWdV.d20.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...S27xOV.d21.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...txG4VD.d22.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...YSYWxA.d23.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...N8mHf8.d24.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...OjBjPf.d25.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...V1YTqm.d26.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...Eou2lH.d27.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...Ja737Y.d28.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...QPyo8O.d29.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...25AEbAF.g8.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...L67X8h9.g9.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...ddYIcT.g10.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...Us0wNW.g11.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...1I3FMd.g12.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...VF6yT3.g13.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...WJNDZP.g14.JPG http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...9qKW1D.g15.JPG |
I wonder if the old team will design the new tower. This was just a couple of years ago...
https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/marke...o-liberis/7282 First Renderings of Rabsky Group's Soaring Brooklyn Office Tower Designed by Albo Liberis By CityRealty Staff December 9, 2016 https://ds3.cityrealty.com/img/d8535...1da+1024++0+60 https://ds4.cityrealty.com/img/dcaf4...869ac+w+h+0+60 https://ds1.cityrealty.com/img/de189...a3f16+w+h+0+60 https://ds1.cityrealty.com/img/b60db...477c7+w+h+0+60 https://ds1.cityrealty.com/img/70682...979+1024++0+60 |
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A little more info...you can see this project has both indoor and outdoor public spaces...
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Exciting stuff. The regulatory/bureaucratic timeline as usual is too long. I just hope the economy continues at its strength. I know NY tends to weather economic declines nicely or won't be impacted AS much in regards to housing/office impact, but the talk of the coming recession, makes me a bit nervous when I see a time line of 2020/2021 before steel or concrete is on the ground. Surely hope in the future this isn't downsized.
If all goes well, this and 80 Flashbush. 9 Dekalb being the well deserved trophy tower for DoBro. |
I love it. It's like a new take on the Secretariat Building.
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Rabksy gets six-month extension on $100M in loans for towering Brooklyn project
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