NEW YORK | Special Flushing Waterfront District
Hill West Architects Reveals Renderings For Massive Waterfront Complex In Flushing, Queens
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Obviously the area has strict height limits due to proximity to LGA.
But this is a welcome addition to Flushing, and will seriously bulk up the western half of the neighborhood core. |
"Waterfront District", on Flushing Creek, lol. I think it could be interesting if it were allowed to develop with local small Asian businesses, like dt Flushing and its unique character. But it looks like bland highrise housing with probably a Target, DSW, etc.
I'm not going to complain about more housing though, god knows we need every unit we can get. That curved building reminds me of the Watergate in DC. It would be nice if it turned out something like that complex, minus the major road cutting it off from the water. https://failedarchitecture.com/wp-co...56674780_b.jpg |
Thought the same regarding the Watergate. Nice curves.
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Density looks good. I would like to see more storefronts or other activated spaces.
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Boatdocks instead of another useless riverpark would be cool.
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The big boon is the 1,533 parking spots. Now Flushing has had quite a boom, and if anybody's been there within the last year, traffic is enough to make one forget who they are. Its like pepper spray painful.
Grand Central Parkway is a nightmare and where the cross Bronx meets 678... oh dear christ, the horror! |
https://www.thecity.nyc/2020/6/8/212...roject-lawsuit
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I wonder what is going to burden people more? 14% unemployment or some market rate houses being constructed?
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This rezoning has been delayed for decades, thanks to entrenched NIMBYs, who apparently prefer a desolate waterfront wasteland over new housing and waterfront parkland. Sorry, NIMBYs, it's finally happening.
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Folks, meaning the locals or any NINBYS need to understand that if they want developers to allocate affordable units, even beyond any sort of minimums, they need to make it so the developer has better margins, and therefore, greater zoning and essentially freedom for the developer needs to occur. The Bronx is showing that affordable housing can come in good numbers, but like any other American city, underwhelming in the units. Would be nice if the 1,725 apartments could be tripled. |
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NIMBY's don't want affordable housing or market rate housing. They want to wallow in their own psychological filth. Some may call for "affordable housing" as a ploy to stop development, but few want development for any reason. The further market rate rents fall, the more difficult it will be for companies to build affordable units. NYS is facing a historical tax deficit, something which the affordable housing tax break doesn't help in the least. If NYC wanted to increase taxes and decrease rents, they could make it much easier for large, market rate housing developments to be built. For a myriad of political and selfish reasons, that will not happen. |
This is a cool development proposal. But I'm saddened to see a large gathering of people and NO ONE is wearing a mask during the pandemic, especially since the demographic of people attending is the demographic most at risk of dying from COVID. :(:(:(
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Also, rents aren't absurd. You can get a decent apartment in a good neighborhood, like Bay Ridge, Riverdale, or Kew Gardens, for a reasonable price, comfortably affordable to a regular middle class earner. The rents are only crazy in core neighborhoods, but no one should expect low rents in those areas. |
I'd love to share some optimism, but I see the city as becoming increasingly out of reach for folks and I view that as a huge negative. Forget Manhattan, I'm talking the outer boroughs. Yes, one can get okay rent, in certain neighborhoods, but nothing is forever. The city has generally failed to keep prices at bay. The city needs a ton of affordable units, and also market rate as well. General issue at hand with underwhelming units being produced.
I do share the sentiment with union costs, which do add a handful of issues development wise. I just wish the city would be a little more aggressive in adding units. The middle class is the very range thats being pushed out. I've been on record saying that developers need profit, and it all comes down to the city allowing them the freedom to subsidize those affordable units via market rate, but that needs greater zoning and density requirements. That would be up to the city at that point, which does have a aura of politics and bs in making it happen. Its nice that NJ is kinda taking some of the load (some very high unit developments in the works long term in Jersey City), but even so, I'd like to see more of it in NYC. Granted the units rising would make most places blush, but its not enough for this city. The city is really not for the middle class, and this can be a detriment. If one makes 100-120k, your better off living in NJ and working in NJ than NYC. More bang for the buck, and no city tax either. Its a shame. I mean yeah... folks can budge, but your still squeezed like a sponge every month. |
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I have to say, I'm not for NIMBYism, but that affordable housing component is laughable. Why include it at all if it's not going to be in any significant amount of the project? Quote:
That's 5% or less. A development of that size, if you are going to include affordable housing, needs to have a much larger component of it. |
I project of this scale should really be closer to 3000 units. Get the added density bonus and increase the Affordable count to 25%. Everybody wins.
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That would require higher buildings, which they probably wouldn't be able to get at this location so close to LaGuardia. But at the current size, 25% would be about 431 units. That's a far cry above the 75 to 90 they are currently proposing. In a city with few too many places to build on with significant numbers (thanks to downzoning and NIMBYism), the City needs to take advantage of opportunities where you can do so, especially in the outer bouroughs. It's a city of over 8 million people, with a housing shortage. And when you tell a community that you are building over 1,700 residential units, and not even 100 of them will be the so called "affordable" units, it's no wonder people come out against it. There's going to be NIMBYism either way. But the people , for example, who can't just up and move out of the city until the pandemic is over, deserve better from the City. Especially in these times. And I'm a little pissed off that they're making me side with the NIMBYs on this issue. Of course, this will be moving through approvals, so there's no doubt that number will change, but will it change in any significant numbers? Stay tuned. |
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