Every time I have looked at these photos I seriously question the 1949 date given as all but three of the cars visible are of 1930's production and the three that aren't appear to be of 1940-41 production. Nit picking on my part to say the least.

After WW2, it took a while for new civilian car production to crank up, and those that were made were scarce and expensive. Very few civilian cars were made during the war (auto companies made stuff for the military--Ford even built aircraft like the B24 Liberator). So until the early 1950s, the majority of cars on the road were probably pre-WW2 vintage--1920s-1941. So the pic is likely 1949. I was a small child in the mid 1950s, and I have memories of cars from the 1930s and even late 1920s being very common on the road, just like now we still see a lot of cars from the 1990s still being driven. Old cars stick around for a while, and are passed down the income chain until shrewd collectors snap them up. Wish I had bought some of those 1920s/1930s cars for a couple of $100 back in the 1950s---would now be worth $50K each at least when rebuilt. Jay Leno has a huge garage full of the beauties.

Little known fact--in the late 1920s, Fred MacMurray started as a singer, and crooned the hit song "I'm In the Market For You" that sold a lot of records for the Olson Band. The stock market was hot and roaring before the crash, so the song was popular. Here it is with Fred crooning about halfway in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvYBk6oH0NA

A Boy in The Band
 

MacMurray was a singer, and he also played sax and clarinet, notably with Gus Arnheim and his Cocoanut Grove Orchestra. Singers with the pre-Swing dance bands quite often also played an instrument in the band. It was MacMurray who played the sax in the My Three Sons theme.

MacMurray's father was a music teacher.

I errored--Bing Crosby crooned "Happy Feet" for the Whiteman Band. Fred MacMurray's big hit was "I'm in the Market For You" for the Olsen Band. Fred could croon with the best of them. Again, here it is--Fred sings in a pleasant tenor about 1/2 way in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvYBk6oH0NA

For Bing fans, here is "I've Got Happy Feet" in a technicolor sequence in "King of Jazz" (1930)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1V_nsBaX8&t=8s

You may recall the song from "The Aviator" scene in the Cocoanut Grove that turns into a brawl

Car Dates
 

Most of the cars are 30's early forties. However the Pontiac is either a 42 or a 46, I would say 46 judging by the grille, can't enlarge enough to be 100 percent positive. . As stated after the war it was difficult to get a new car and prices were above the MSRP. I remember in Grammar School watching a little old lady drive down Sunset Blvd. everyday in a Baker Electric in the early 50's. We would all yell "Get A Horse" to her. Many of our neighbors still had 30's 40's cars into the 1960's.

My uncle, Tom Powers, played Barbara Stanwyk's hapless husband...

Reading that song title brought this to mind... :)

https://theblondeatthefilm.files.wor...k-market-3.jpg

I remember my 1950s Grade School days and seeing many cars from the 1930s.

HG you are very correct. It was not until the very late 1950s.....that people were able to finally replace their old worn-out pre-war cars. By then you couldn't even sell them...they went straight to the junk yards. But there were a few kids who relished their sturdy bodies for hot rods.

http://dealeraccelerate-all.s3.amazo...80_low_res.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-st6shlwDdt...-scenes-05.jpg
http://dealeraccelerate-all.s3.amazo...80_low_res.jpg

I'm pretty sure the first car parked on the street at right is a 1946 Chevrolet Fleetmaster coupe. The '46 grill was different from the 1942, the last pre-war model released.

bad air
 

Here is one from the Daily News archive at UCLA. It's a mystery location, the caption only reads "Street scene on foggy and smoggy day in Los Angeles, Calif., 1953."

https://i.imgur.com/0AT8RRn.jpg
UCLA Special Collections

I didn't recognize the large building in the next block, but extreme embiggening of the building on the left gives:

https://i.imgur.com/h812KYk.jpg

The sign appears to say "Seaboard Loans". The 1956 city directory lists a half-dozen Seaboard Loan offices, one of which was at 959 S. Flower. The contemporary Sanborn for that address is:

https://i.imgur.com/PaxNv3L.jpg
lapl.org

The arrows point to an overhang wrapping around the NW corner of Flower and Olympic, which can be seen in the original photograph. So that makes the big building the Standard Oil company, whose products no doubt helped create the atmosphere on display.

Today a lot more breathable:

https://i.imgur.com/4BcypKC.jpg
gsv


The loan office is now a parking lot, but it's good the Standard Oil building survived.

My mother worked in the Standard Oil Bldg. in the late 1940s. The sole tale I have of her being there has nothing to do with the building, except that she was in it at the time of this anecdote: One of her co-workers as a secretary was inimical to her. For some reason, my mother received a gift box of candy, and offered to share it with her co-workers, a piece per co-worker, so there would be enough to go around. The inimical co-worker selected a candy, took a bite out of it, said "I don't like this one," put back the unliked one, selected another, took a bite, and went through this same routine with some half-dozen pieces of candy.

I don't believe my mother then pushed her out a window or shot her, so I'm afraid this doesn't qualify as noirish. :-( Had she but known where I'd be posting someday, I'm sure she would have happily obliged.

Yes indeed, Fred should have crooned "I'm In the Market For You" to Barbara: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvYBk6oH0NA Fred starts crooning about 2 minutes in.

That market, I believe was on 6th St. near Normandy or Alexandria St. Real market, not just a set. When I lived in the area in the early 1980s when I worked in mid Wilshire it was still open as a grocery market. Believe it was called the Chapman Park market.

Palm Garden on Main Street
 

Your colorful and interesting invitation to visit the SW corner of 18th and Main must be from 1908 (Friday, July 3), e_r.
The Palm Garden was built on the site of the Palace Stables.


February 11, 1906, Los Angeles Times:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...h.jpg~original

ProQuest via LAPL


The Palace Stables at the SW corner of 18th and Main can be seen in the lower right corner of this c. 1902 aerial:


Here is the SW corner of 18th and Main on the 1906 Sanborn, showing a livery stable being built around the
Palace Stables on the corner (the 1894 Sanborn shows a smaller Palace Stables on 18th St. were the livery
stable is being built to the right of 128 W. 18th St.):

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r.jpg~original

ProQuest via LAPL


This appears to be the building permit for the Palm Garden. There is a permit with the same date to demolish
a frame building at 1807 S. Main, part of the stable I guess:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original

LADBS


Related Building Permits:

Jan 5 1907: "general alterations to frame building" at 1801 S. Main ("brick" is crossed out next to "frame")
Feb 20 1907: "To make changes to interior and exterior of bldg by cutting exits, putting in partitions, etc." at 1801 S. Main
Jan 21 1908: Interior changes including moving the soda fountain at 1801 S. Main
Aug 25 1911: Remove 10 feet from front of building at 1809 S. Main "known as Palm Garden" to accommodate widening
of Main Street; the building's lessee is listed as A. W. Rutherford, the same name on the 1908 invitation
Aug 11 1913: "We intend to make a Class D building into a Class C garage" at 1801 S. Main


1910 Baist Map with dance hall at 18th and Main (at upper right) and livery stable next door to the west:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original

HistoricMapworks


1921 Baist Map with garage at 18th and Main:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...h.jpg~original

USCDL

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The other Palm Garden on south Main, from the 1899 articles, must have been this one, which was across from the
short-lived 1892-1901 Post Office/Federal Building at Main and Winston:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original

1899 LA City Directory @ fold3.com

A different kind of Super Bowl
 

Here's a fantastic photo of the first Super Bowl played at the Coliseum on January 15, 1967 by Sports Illustrated photographer Walter Ioos jr. Quite a bit has changed between then and the game played today in Minneapolis.

https://i.imgur.com/mM4N9kM.jpg?4
http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/...um-6516484.php

A different kind of Super Bowl
 

Double post

A different kind of Super Bowl
 

Triple post. Duh!

Countless "open" markets featured on this thread could have stood-in for the actual shooting location. Chapman Market certainly has its own significant history, since it is reputed to be the first drive-in market opened in 1929. However, most agree that the DI market was Jerry's at 5330 Melrose . . . >> http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28127

https://movie-tourist.blogspot.com/2...nity-1944.html

There is nothing left of the former Jerry's. A cursory glance at the permits indicates in 1921, the property was residential. There are numerous build permits without any specifics after that date. However, by 1937, the location was definitely permitted as a reinforced brick "two stories," "market and store."

I first thought St. Charles as well but it did not have enough fancy plasterwork. St Charles is loaded with it. The next choice was Camarillo. I have always wanted to see the inside of that church, since it sits on a hill above the freeway and looked old and fascinating. Thanks for the pictures

Here's the basilica......let's peek inside.