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rivernorthlurker Oct 25, 2021 5:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Briguy (Post 9432092)
Will be able to tell soon, but the floor spacing on the core DOES look to be a bit wider on the last few floors???

Not sure I see it but floors 38/39 are combined into 1 though that is kind of 'accounted for' because they are being counted as 2 floors instead of 1. See the diagram on https://www.333wolfpoint.com/the-icon/. This is also outside of the floors that Salesforce is leasing so maybe this could be 2 floors that Kirkland purchased and asked to be combined (or some other tenant). You can see this in the some of the photos above as well.

In either case, this is gonna be a totally baller space. :slob:

PS - If that is indeed Kirkland's 'showcase space' then it's probably unlikely that there will b any surprise 'super floors' left in construction.

10023 Oct 25, 2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9430945)
That would be Kirkland and Ellis but I hadn't heard about any delays.

I thought K&E were in 300 N LaSalle. Wonder why they’re moving so soon.

dewbs Oct 25, 2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9432950)
I thought K&E were in 300 N LaSalle. Wonder why they’re moving so soon.

I don't think it's any particular problem with 300 N Lasalle. They've been upgrading many of their offices. In London they just announced they're leaving the Gherkin after 15 years, which is only a bit more than the time they were in 300 N Lasalle (will end up at about 14 years by the time they move in 2023). the firm just has a lot more money than when they signed the lease in 2007 (i.e. profits per partner are higher by a factor of 2.5).

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Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9432913)
Not sure I see it but floors 38/39 are combined into 1 though that is kind of 'accounted for' because they are being counted as 2 floors instead of 1. See the diagram on https://www.333wolfpoint.com/the-icon/.

The stacking plan shows 38-39 as mechanical: https://www.333wolfpoint.com/wp-cont...cking-Plan.pdf

If you're willing to trust the pixels on that plan, 50 is 20% taller than lower floors, and 49 and 51 are both 10% taller. (there are also clearly some taller floors at the top for Salesforce).

Also worth noting that this plan is clearly from before K&E's lease, since it marks half the building as available (it's dated 2/2020). They took, reportedly, 600k sqft, which would be 23-24 floors given that the website reports 25-26k sqft per floor. That would probably imply they're taking 26-50 or 28/29-54 (recall the two mechanical floors on 38-39). If the latter, 50 and 51 would be natural conference floors, since there's a terrace on 51. So then all that's available to rent is 26-28 or 51-54. (also obviously possible their floors aren't contiguous, with the staff at the bottom and a gap in the middle; they did that at 300 N Lasalle).

bnk Oct 25, 2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9432950)
I thought K&E were in 300 N LaSalle. Wonder why they’re moving so soon.

K&E had that tower built for them. Before that they were in the AON building.

chris08876 Oct 26, 2021 12:19 AM

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harryc Oct 26, 2021 1:39 AM

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Transfer floor

rivernorthlurker Oct 26, 2021 3:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dewbs (Post 9432989)
I don't think it's any particular problem with 300 N Lasalle. They've been upgrading many of their offices. In London they just announced they're leaving the Gherkin after 15 years, which is only a bit more than the time they were in 300 N Lasalle (will end up at about 14 years by the time they move in 2023). the firm just has a lot more money than when they signed the lease in 2007 (i.e. profits per partner are higher by a factor of 2.5).



The stacking plan shows 38-39 as mechanical: https://www.333wolfpoint.com/wp-cont...cking-Plan.pdf

If you're willing to trust the pixels on that plan, 50 is 20% taller than lower floors, and 49 and 51 are both 10% taller. (there are also clearly some taller floors at the top for Salesforce).

Also worth noting that this plan is clearly from before K&E's lease, since it marks half the building as available (it's dated 2/2020). They took, reportedly, 600k sqft, which would be 23-24 floors given that the website reports 25-26k sqft per floor. That would probably imply they're taking 26-50 or 28/29-54 (recall the two mechanical floors on 38-39). If the latter, 50 and 51 would be natural conference floors, since there's a terrace on 51. So then all that's available to rent is 26-28 or 51-54. (also obviously possible their floors aren't contiguous, with the staff at the bottom and a gap in the middle; they did that at 300 N Lasalle).

Thank you for the correction - I didn't realize those were mechanical... Yeah there are clearly some slightly taller floors (by pixels) at the top but nothing that seems like it would add more than a few feet and not already be included in the original height.

Well it's fun to speculate but now I guess I should just wait a weeks and see what they build.

10023 Oct 26, 2021 5:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bnk (Post 9432994)
K&E had that tower built for them. Before that they were in the AON building.

Yep I remember those offices. But I haven’t been to K&E in Chicago since I went to London.

dewbs Oct 30, 2021 1:29 PM

Photo from down the street this morning (link):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...=w600-h1340-no

The mechanical floors on 38-39 seem clearly visible (and they match counting up from the bottom). Counting from there, the heights seem to get a bit taller starting at 50 (not 49...).

Briguy Oct 30, 2021 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dewbs (Post 9438463)
Photo from down the street this morning (link):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...=w600-h1340-no

The mechanical floors on 38-39 seem clearly visible (and they match counting up from the bottom). Counting from there, the heights seem to get a bit taller starting at 50 (not 49...).

Fingers crossed, but it looks like 51 is taller as well. If all of 51-54 (Kirklands floors not already higher heights as shown in the diagram) are higher, we could be looking at possibly 15-20 extra feet?

Tombstoner Oct 30, 2021 4:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Briguy (Post 9438501)
Fingers crossed, but it looks like 51 is taller as well. If all of 51-54 (Kirklands floors not already higher heights as shown in the diagram) are higher, we could be looking at possibly 15-20 extra feet?

Off topic: in this photo, striking how the Calatrava sculpture seems to sit in a 3D space defined by the parabolic arch or the building, the sidewalk and reflection of the sidewalk in the building. Of course, that's dependent on the vantagepoint so not designed that way, but cool nonetheless. :cool:

donnie Oct 30, 2021 4:43 PM

Very soon Stonehenge of the America's will be complete.

BVictor1 Nov 3, 2021 3:19 AM

11.02.21

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...909130/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...909490/enhance

nomarandlee Nov 3, 2021 4:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 9441070)

Very cool. This photo just highlights to me the need to have some sort of sculpture in front of WPS that can match the Calatrava's work at River Point.

I know that originally there was supposed to be some sort of fountain in front of WPS that seems no longer in the cards, I am perfectly Ok with the idea of doing without the fountain but there needs to be something sculptural there.

Tombstoner Nov 3, 2021 8:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nomarandlee (Post 9441342)
Very cool. This photo just highlights to me the need to have some sort of sculpture in front of WPS that can match the Calatrava's work at River Point.

I know that originally there was supposed to be some sort of fountain in front of WPS that seems no longer in the cards, I am perfectly Ok with the idea of doing without the fountain but there needs to be something sculptural there.

Personally, I think you rarely go wrong with a fountain--they lend grace and movement to just about any space and are a natural gathering spot. I also think the Calatrava sculpture is a bit of a disappointment. Not terrible, but nothing exciting or memorable.

left of center Nov 3, 2021 9:51 PM

Anyone know how many floors left to go? From my counting, looks like the ironwork is somewhere near floor 48-49.

rivernorthlurker Nov 4, 2021 2:35 AM

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Originally Posted by left of center (Post 9441846)
Anyone know how many floors left to go? From my counting, looks like the ironwork is somewhere near floor 48-49.

Profile view on previous page showed floor 53 in the form, so 7 floors from the top to 60. But on the drawing on the website theres kind of this little 61st floor to the architectural top so you could say maybe 8 more floors to pour.

left of center Nov 4, 2021 2:40 AM

Wow I was way off. Thanks for the update!

dewbs Nov 6, 2021 1:56 PM

11.6.21
So here's a new image (full-size link):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...rTaXSQ=w600-no

Zoomed in version here. They haven't added any new floors since last week.

The floors that are covered appear to be 37-39. Counting up from there, 50 looks taller, which is consistent with the stacking plan here.

Measuring the image, 50 looks 25% taller than the lower floors, while the stacking plan shows it 20% taller. However, 49, as built, looks the same as 48 and below, whereas the stacking plan has it 10% taller.

As built, 51 appears to be 36% taller than 48 and below, whereas the stacking plan shows it just 10% taller.

Obviously the stacking plan might just be off on the heights. But the other possibility is that some of these upper floors are getting stretched, as was suggested in a previous post.

rivernorthlurker Nov 7, 2021 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dewbs (Post 9443995)
11.6.21
So here's a new image (full-size link):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...rTaXSQ=w600-no

Zoomed in version here. They haven't added any new floors since last week.

The floors that are covered appear to be 37-39. Counting up from there, 50 looks taller, which is consistent with the stacking plan here.

Measuring the image, 50 looks 25% taller than the lower floors, while the stacking plan shows it 20% taller. However, 49, as built, looks the same as 48 and below, whereas the stacking plan has it 10% taller.

As built, 51 appears to be 36% taller than 48 and below, whereas the stacking plan shows it just 10% taller.

Obviously the stacking plan might just be off on the heights. But the other possibility is that some of these upper floors are getting stretched, as was suggested in a previous post.

Interesting observation about the pause. Could be a million reasons for that, one of which is modifying the design. Like when they paused 9 W Walton while figuring out how to add Ken's Griffin 3 floor penthouse to the design. Still slim I say, but hey, us skyscraper groupies can hope!


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