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esotouric Jan 9, 2012 5:25 AM

A noirish interlude from this theater's long life is the Ginevra Knight case, in which the 18-year-old assistant manager shot dead an attempted carjacker, coming home late one night from work. It was 1947, just months after the Black Dahlia murder. Folks were jumpy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5540510)
While vicariously exploring (via Google street views) the streets that border Elysian Park I came across this building along Riverside Drive.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/700...iversidedr.jpg
google street view

Upon closer inspection I noticed the building houses a theater company and began wondering about it's history.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6...nightsbrid.jpg

I visited the Knightsbridge Theater website where it notes the building had originally been a silent movie house called The Colony Theater.

Here is their website.
http://www.knightsbridgetheatre.com/history.html
____

Next I visited http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/5069

Cinema Treasures lists the former names as the Riverside Theater, New Elysian Theater, and Elysian Theater but does not mention
the Colony Theater (the silent movie house).

A commenter on Cinema Treasures posted this snapshot from 1948.

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8...heater1948.jpg
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...02d01cc19f.jpg

Another commenter wrote, "When this theater opened it was the Riverside Theater."
and yet another said they knew it as The Elysian in the 1950s (as opposed to the New Elysian), and still no mention of the Colony Theater.

So I am curious, does anyone have information on this theater at 1944 Riverside Drive?

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RudyJK Jan 9, 2012 4:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5534405)
Rudy JK:

Here is another article I found about the missile sites:

http://www.laalmanac.com/history/hi08.htm

Thanks for the link Fred. I am fascinated a bit by Cold War history. My dad served in the Strategic Air Command during the 60's and 70's and would be on alert circling the skies in a B-52 fully loaded in case the unthinkable happened. Links like yours help the youngsters understand what that time was like.

RudyJK Jan 9, 2012 4:32 PM

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9738/nikem1a.jpg
http://modularsynth.collected.info/a...larsynth/96//a


http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9854/nikem1b.jpg
http://modularsynth.collected.info/a...larsynth/96//a



http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1...mulholland.jpg
http://modularsynth.collected.info/a...larsynth/96//a



I believe someone might have already answered your question RudyJK, but I thought these photos were very interesting.
____[/QUOTE]

This certainly looks like the place that we hiked ethereal. Thanks for the great pictures!

GaylordWilshire Jan 9, 2012 5:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esotouric (Post 5542572)
A noirish interlude from this theater's long life is the Ginevra Knight case, in which the 18-year-old assistant manager shot dead an attempted carjacker, coming home late one night from work. It was 1947, just months after the Black Dahlia murder. Folks were jumpy.

Of course I had to see if the houses in the story are still there...


Ginger's house at 1515 Courtney Avenue, then and now:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...2520PM.bmp.jpg1947project

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


...and, across the street, 1524 Courtney:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s...2520AM.bmp.jpg1947project

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View


(This Ginger Knight was an interesting character... and a second cousin of Winston Churchill??)

nostalgie Jan 9, 2012 9:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5541776)
Menu, circa 1900, from the Royal Restaurant, 118 S. Spring Street. What's fricadellen?

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...5001-cover.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...5001-cover.jpg


Lunch At Tait's, 1905
http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Taits.menu2.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...3745-cover.jpg


Dinner at the Hotel Alexandria in 1911
http://wwww.dkse.net/david/HotelAlex...13824-back.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...24-inside1.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...13824-back.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...24-inside1.jpg


The Pig'N Whistle in 1919. Save room for dessert! (What's an Egg Coffee?)
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...14002-back.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...02-insert2.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...02-inside1.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/dbtw-wpd/exec...=&MF=&MQ=&TI=0

What wonderul menus! Gives a nice look at the eating habits of a century ago.

To answer your question: fricadellen (or fricadeller) are Danish meatballs, usually served with red cabbage & new potatoes. I've had them at a restaurant in Solvang & they're delicious.

jg6544 Jan 9, 2012 10:23 PM

Up until the Depression, American restaurant menus in larger cities were fairly daring - lots of French preparations and terms. Then everything went bland. I don't know whether it was the economy or the coming of age of the "home ec" state of mind that held that food should be nourishing, not good to eat. From then until the 1960s, menus were dull as dishwater everywhere but in a few restaurants in some of the largest cities. Once people began to be interested in cooking again (God bless Julia Child!), it began to be more interesting to go out to eat. Nowadays, there's at least one decent restaurant in every town of any size at all in the country.

FredH Jan 10, 2012 3:06 AM

Sepulveda Boulevard tunnel opens - 1930
 
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3505/...atunnel297.jpg
Los Angeles Times

Now:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8791/sepulveda.jpg
Google Street View

L.A. Times story here:

http://framework.latimes.com/2012/01...-tunnel-opens/

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/205...lopens1600.jpg
Los Angeles Times

Looks like the light fixtures (above) have disappeared

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg213...jpg&res=medium
Google Street View

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg692...jpg&res=medium
LAPL

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg190...jpg&res=medium
Google Street View

Wow! What did they do before this when the 405 backed up? :whatthefuck:

FredH Jan 10, 2012 3:38 AM

Barker Brothers Warehouses and Factories
 
Built in 1906:

Located on Palmetto Street
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2492/barkerbros.jpg
Google Street View

A little more noirish photo from a few years ago:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/884/warehouses.jpg
http://you-are-here.com/downtown/warehouses.html

kanhawk Jan 10, 2012 4:19 AM

Don't know when it happened, but congratulations on the thread going over 1 million views.:cheers:
Quite a few of those views were mine.

3940dxer Jan 10, 2012 6:33 AM

Since the old menus I posted were well received, here's another one from place that interests me greatly these days, and has been covered in several older posts here -- Mount Lowe, high above Pasadena. In preparation for a planned hike to Mount Lowe I've been researching like mad and have found a lot of neat stuff.

The more I study Mt. Lowe and Echo Mountain, the more I'm amazed by the ruggedness of the terrain, the technical challenges that were overcome, and all the things that one could see and do up there, both then and now. There are a number of web sites that nicely document the place. I hope to get some "Now" photos of whatever remains when I go up there in a couple of weeks.

The menu is from 1896, other items are from the early 1900's.

http://www.mountlowe.org/albums/albu...untainMenu.jpg
http://www.mountlowe.org/gallery/alb...ainMenu?full=1

http://www.mountlowe.org/albums/albu...inHouseMen.jpg
http://www.mountlowe.org/gallery/alb...ouseMen?full=1

http://www.mountlowe.org/albums/albu...inHouseMen.jpg
http://www.mountlowe.org/gallery/alb...ouseMen?full=1

http://www.mountlowe.org/albums/album02/postcard_A.jpg
http://www.mountlowe.org/gallery/alb...tcard_A?full=1

http://www.mountlowe.org/albums/albu...stcard_BBB.jpg
http://www.mountlowe.org/gallery/alb...ard_BBB?full=1

http://www.mountlowe.org/albums/album02/postcard_BB.jpg
The Rubio Pavillion, at the base of the cable car incline below Echo Mountain
http://www.mountlowe.org/gallery/alb...card_BB?full=1

http://www.mountlowe.org/albums/Adve..._Pacific_E.jpg
http://www.mountlowe.org/gallery/Adv...cific_E?full=1

http://www.mountlowe.org/albums/Adve...on_Mt_Lowe.jpg
http://www.mountlowe.org/gallery/Adv...cific_E?full=1

Those Who Squirm! Jan 10, 2012 7:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malumot (Post 5133659)

BTW - Those officers are County, not LAPD. No idea why. Were the proceedings conducted in County courts, and therefore the serving of papers and such had to be done by Sheriff's Office? Maybe some legal beagle knows.

IANAL, but I think this is standard practice. The residents weren't being arrested, they were being evicted, presumably by a court order originating in a civil proceeding. It's County LEOs who serve as court bailiffs and serve papers, enforce evictions, and so on.

GaylordWilshire Jan 10, 2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5543834)
Since the old menus I posted were well received, here's another one from place that interests me greatly these days, and has been covered in several older posts here -- Mount Lowe, high above Pasadena. In preparation for a planned hike to Mount Lowe I've been researching like mad and have found a lot of neat stuff.

Great posts, 3940--on the menus and on Mt. Lowe. I find the configuration of the Rubio Pavilion fascinating--the pitched roof under the top building--

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b...4/echodual.jpgmountlowe.org

GaylordWilshire Jan 10, 2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5543652)
Built in 1906:

Located on Palmetto Street
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-X...2520AM.bmp.jpg
Google Street View


And then, Fred H, there are your shots of the Sepulveda tunnel and of the Barker Bros warehouse-- what's better than finding ghost signs?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...barkerfull.jpgLAPL 1923

3940dxer Jan 10, 2012 3:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5543929)
Great posts, 3940--on the menus and on Mt. Lowe. I find the configuration of the Rubio Pavilion fascinating--the pitched roof under the top building--

The "Pavillion" was in the lower section of steep Rubio Canyon. This was near the first part of the mountain journey, where the cable incline began, soon after you left Pasadena. There were a number of waterfalls in this section, and wooden stairways were built so people could explore them.

The pitched roof building beneath was a dining room and dance hall.

At the top of the incline, besides the wheelhouse, was the Echo Mountain House, a Victorian 70 room hotel. This was the place where you boarded a trolley car for the incredible 4 or 4 mile journey to Mt. Lowe.

The attractions up there included four hotels, a petting zoo, miniature golf, a bowling alley, billiards, tennis courts, the world's biggest searchlight, an observatory, and horseback riding.

Steve Hoffman Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM

Imagine how hard it was to build all of those places up the mountain? It's amazing. Not much to see up there now though. I've hiked around there (during my "looking for stuff from the movie "The Body Snatchers" phase).

You'll have fun and appreciate how they managed to build up there all the more..

GaylordWilshire Jan 10, 2012 7:12 PM

The Two Jakes...
 
A pretty dull sequel to Chinatown, unless, I suppose, you're into the L.A. scenery as we are. Aside from Jack Nicholson, Eli Wallach and maybe Harvey Keitel, the acting is atrocious. Meg Tilly and Madeleine Stowe couldn't act their ways out of shoeboxes--aside from neither being anywhere near the actor or having anywhere near the beauty or charisma of Faye Dunaway in her heyday, they give truly terrible performances... (or was Nicholson's direction not so hot?) Anyway, the storyline itself is pretty good, with ties to the Mulwrays... and there are some visual treats. One is Jake Gittes's office, part of the well-known streamline Winne & Sutch complex on South Soto Street:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...4%252520PM.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-j...4%252520PM.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...4%252520PM.jpg
The lobby of the Gittes Investigations building appears to be the actual original lobby of 5608 S Soto...the camera
tracks right behind Nicholson as he enters.


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-j...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View
The "G.I. Building" today at left, with the main Winne & Sutch building to the right.


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View
Looking north on Soto: The oil derrick in the first screenshot may have been real, or may have been a prop....anyway,
it's gone now. Note the border between Huntington Park and Vernon, as indicated in paint at the change in surface of
the street.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r...2520PM.bmp.jpg
Easy: Dinner on me at Leon & Freddie's if you can identify this floor.


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-V...5%252520PM.jpgGoogle Street View
A good exterior of Max Factor, and excellent shots of the interior. Has the Hollywood Museum now there preserved the individual Blonde,
Brunette, and Redhead treatment rooms?


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u...2520PM.bmp.jpg
Actor Allan Warnick reprises his roll as dyspeptic city beaureaucrat Mulford P. Rippey.... (The IMDB has his character as Manfred P.
Rippey, but his desk plaque clearly says Mulford...as you can see, I'm going for the anality award today....)

Pics beside Google Street Views from Paramount Pictures

Edit... it's written everywhere as "Winnie & Sutch"-- I've discovered that it's WINNE & Sutch, which was a wholesale dry-goods concern.

Fishzilla Jan 11, 2012 2:17 AM

chinatown floor question
 
That's the seal in City Hall rotunda

sopas ej Jan 11, 2012 2:48 AM

:previous:
Aw, you beat me to the answer, Fishzilla. Welcome to the forums! :)

Such great pics and posts in the last few days!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5544345)
Has the Hollywood Museum now there preserved the individual Blonde,
Brunette, and Redhead treatment rooms?

Yes, those rooms are all preserved. I was there on Lucille Ball's 100th Anniversary of her birth in August of last year. Here's the Redhead Room:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...8_675502_n.jpg
Photo by me

And here I am in the "Silence of the Lambs" set. You use Evian skin cream, and sometimes you wear L'air du Temps--but not today.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._3029195_n.jpg
Photo by me

FredH Jan 11, 2012 2:50 AM

Quote:
(originally posted by 3940dxer)

http://www.mountlowe.org/albums/albu...inHouseMen.jpg
http://www.mountlowe.org/gallery/alb...ouseMen?full=1

These old menus are so interesting. This one is about 116 years old and it has the same type of descriptions of the dishes that you would see in a good restaurant today (or so I am told). There is a real art to making ordinary food sound extraordinary.

However, you can put any glace you want on a beef tongue and its still going out to the dogs. Sorry. :slob:

3940dxer Jan 11, 2012 3:59 AM

Hild's Cafe, 5515 Hollywood Blvd. (just west of Western), 1920
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...5548-cover.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...5548-cover.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...4424-cover.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...4424-cover.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...lais_front.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...lais_front.jpg

http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside1.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside1.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside2.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside2.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside3.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside3.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside4.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside4.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside5.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...is_inside5.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...ais_insert.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/menus/...ais_insert.jpg


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