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odinthor Dec 2, 2016 6:41 PM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7639228)
Doubly my category ("trees" and "missions"): We're looking towards Mission San Fernando Rey--its convento building, to be precise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conven..._San_Fernando) . And you already know that they're Washingtonia filifera (California Fan Palm) rather than Washingtonia robusta (Mexican Fan Palm). LAHS students must have gone to San Fernando on a field trip!

A few years earlier:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...psbz1p7fhr.jpg
Century Magazine, Vol. XLI (1891), p. 397.

GaylordWilshire Dec 2, 2016 6:45 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/50...366-h768-rw-no


In the neighborhood of the White Spot Realty Co, whose sign if not building was seen recently below, is the City Spa...have we seen this before? This decrepit building seems to hide a modern den of indulgence...well, while the website is very up-to-date, it actually seems to go nowhere, maybe some hipster's failed idea of old LA making a comeback: http://www.lacityspa.com/


https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...g?format=1000w



At one point it was the Royal Health Club; before that, it was the Pico Steam Bath; I thought the building might be older than 1956:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cI...366-h768-rw-nohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sy...366-h768-rw-nohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Rc...366-h768-rw-no

HossC Dec 2, 2016 6:54 PM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7640123)

A few years earlier:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...psbz1p7fhr.jpg
Century Magazine, Vol. XLI (1891), p. 397.

Just a reminder: Diamond-X posted some pictures of the palms nearly a year ago in post #32704. Here are two of them:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diamond-X (Post 7279523)

Mission San Fernando Rey de Espana was established in 1797. There are two palm trees which were originally located near the mission.
I've read, but forgotten where, that these trees were planted as a reference to where the mission should be constructed. It's possible
that Fr. Crespi planted them.

Are they still there? What's their history? Noir-ish minds want to know.

After scanning Google earth and looking at the mountain ridge-line, I think they were somewhere in the triangle created by the 405 - 5 - 118,
possibly between the 118 and Brand.

[...]

Another from Pinterest, 1886:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...d55fb9a8a1.jpg

[...]

From Water and Power dot org, dated 1887:

http://waterandpower.org/Historical_...ion_ca1887.jpg

A smaller version of the second picture originally appeared in post #17710 by Chuckaluck.

HossC Dec 2, 2016 7:00 PM

I posted some Julius Shulman pictures of apartment buildings in Redondo Beach about a week ago (see here). Here are two more buildings in "Job 4670: Jerome White, Apartment Building (Redondo Beach, Calif.), 1970".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

Just like the last set, these apartments have large numbers on the front.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

This one has distinctive wide wooden balconies.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

Although it's not a twin, the other building shares several of the design details.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

Seeing 2213 and 2215 together in a set, I originally assumed that these buildings were next door to each other. Starting in the area where Bristolian pointed us to last time, I found the first apartments at 2213 Voorhees Avenue.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original
GSV

2215 Voorhees Avenue is not the second building. I initially wondered if the building from the last photograph had been demolished, but then I checked Historic Aerials and found that the current building has been there since at least 1972. In the end, I found the second building a few streets away at 2215 Nelson Avenue.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
GSV

BifRayRock Dec 2, 2016 9:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7602650)








August 1935 - Nearby Currie's Ice Cream at 100 N Gale, Beverly Hills (on Wilshire) would have been east of the above pictured locations. Note the Knudsen's Buttermilk sign at upper left.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...g.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/30027




odinthor Dec 2, 2016 9:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7640143)
Just a reminder: Diamond-X posted some pictures of the palms nearly a year ago in post #32704. Here are two of them:



A smaller version of the second picture originally appeared in post #17710 by Chuckaluck.

I cranked up the Googlemobile and went for a spin through where the palms were located. Formerly (in mission times) an olive orchard, it now has modest residences. I looked up at one point and noticed a very old California Fan Palm just about where the shortest one in the old pic showing three palms would have been (remember that they grow very slowly indeed), giving me hopes that at least that one might have been preserved in some miraculous moment of respect by the developers. Here's the best angle I could get on it; it's near the upper left corner. We're looking in the direction of the mission compound, though the edge of the residential development, S. Brand Blvd., Brand Park, and San Fernando Mission Blvd. (lined by the tall Washingtonia robusta palms in the distance) intervene. If the palm in question is not one of those originals, it could quite likely indeed be a seedling from one of them!

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...psbuw28ggx.jpg
gsv

BifRayRock Dec 2, 2016 10:27 PM






Quick change lighting? Before and After.

Since source dates all of these images November 10, 1937, the new lighting was installed on the same day, or the images were all printed on the same day. Strangely, not so sure the big arrow is an aesthetic improvement rather than a gaudy eye catcher. The new hand painted advertisements probably wouldn't last long with some good Santa Ana winds.


For some reason source indicates Market was at Termino Avenue and Anaheim Street, Long Beach. It seems fairly obvious that the original structure is still present at 200 West Anaheim Street.



November 1937 - Termino Market, 200 West Anaheim Street, Long Beach.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...q.png~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/31579


A side order of arrow?



November 1937. Termino Market. Termino and Anaheim Blvd., Long Beach
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...o.png~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/31581


200 West Anaheim Street
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...i.jpg~originalGoogggle Street View










What's going on inside?



The butcher and the produce manager maintain order. What would they would think of the place today?
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.png~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/31580




CityBoyDoug Dec 2, 2016 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7640422)






The butcher and the produce manager maintain order. What would they would think of the place today?
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.png~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/31580

Its hard to say what someone from the past would think today but I would say..." ...it now looks Third world in 2016."

Bristolian Dec 3, 2016 5:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7632249)

The other is at 2309 and 2311 Carnegie Lane - then ...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

... and now.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

Looking at these photos of the apartments in Redondo Beach recently posted by HossC I think there's a pretty good chance the now considerably large pine tree can be seen as a sapling in the original photo. It appears to me that it never lost its general shape with the distinctive double bend.

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2016 7:10 AM

I've had the following two 'mystery' photographs for quite some time. I'm almost certain I found them on eBay.

The information I have is quite vague.

"Construction, Los Angeles Calif."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/bd18Rv.png
eBay

At first I thought it might be the framework for a Drive-In movie screen.



That is, until I realized there was a second photograph!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/4ObhqH.jpg
eBay

As you can see by the structures on the right, this appears to be a studio backlot. And judging by the machinery I'd say the 1930s.

As of yet, I haven't been able to figure out which studio. I thought one of you here on NLA might recognize the structure and then we could go from there.


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ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2016 7:34 AM

Nothing says romance like a date to the La Brea Tar Pits.

"Kodachrome slide, 1950s"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/AitlpK.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...QAAOSwA3dYNhLG

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Ed Workman Dec 3, 2016 4:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7640779)
I've had the following two 'mystery' photographs for quite some time. I'm almost certain I found them on eBay.

The information I have is quite vague.

"Construction, Los Angeles Calif."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/bd18Rv.png
eBay

At first I thought it might be the framework for a Drive-In movie screen.



That is, until I realized there was a second photograph!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/4ObhqH.jpg
eBay

As you can see by the structures on the right, this appears to be a studio backlot. And judging by the machinery I'd say the 1930s.

As of yet, I haven't been able to figure out which studio. I thought one of you here on NLA might recognize the structure and then we could go from there.


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I think it's at what is now TBS. The foreground would be for water- a pond to shoot ocean scenes. IIRC it was destroyed to accommodate the enlargement of another set for a teevee show

HossC Dec 3, 2016 8:40 PM

We've had a few Lloyd Wright houses from Julius Shulman recently, so now it's time for a John Lautner house. This is "Job 3494: Sheats House (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1963". That ladder looks pretty precarious.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

This shot is looking back the other way from near the pool.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

A '60s hanging chair.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

There are two similar images from this angle, so I picked one. It shows the rather impressive views. I think the window above the table can be opened.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

Often called the Sheats-Goldstein House, you'll find it at 10104 Angelo View Drive. There's an article at la.curbed which includes the picture and text below, as well as links to their previous posts with more pictures. The house has made several on-screen appearances including The Big Lebowski.
The Sheats House was built in 1963 for UCLA professor Paul and artist Helen Sheats and their five children. They asked Lautner to give the pool a "camping under the stars" feel, so he stuck Old Fashioned glasses into the concrete roof above; Helen wanted to be able to see the kids swimming, which is why there are windows into the pool from the master bathroom. But, maybe unsurprisingly, the Sheats moved out just a few years after the house was finished.

[James] Goldstein bought the property in 1972 and began a decades-long partnership with Lautner to modify and expand the house, up until Lautner's death in 1994, when he began working with Duncan Nicholson, the last architect Lautner had hired. The house is more or less original, but some materials, built-ins, and motorized elements have been replaced; rooms on the lower level were also combined into one baller master suite furnished in concrete and featuring a see-through bathroom (it's blocked off by concrete).

In 2002, Goldstein and Nicholson tore down a lesser Lautner on a neighboring lot to build a three-level entertainment complex topped with a tennis court. Inside, Club James has retractable glass walls, floor-to-ceiling TVs, club lighting, an outdoor bar, and multi-stall bathrooms for men and women. Goldstein's office is also in the structure with angular built-in furniture to match the main house.
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
Elizabeth Daniels/la.curbed.com

The house is now "surrounded by a tropical jungle, which requires the attention of four full-time gardeners and a landscape architect". The tennis court can be seen on the left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
Google Maps

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2016 11:27 PM

:previous: Excellent post Hoss.

I've seen quite a few photographs of this house but never from the angle shown below (the giant silver 'shard' shape is pretty severe from this angle)
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7641025)
"Job 3494: Sheats House (Beverly Hills, Calif.), 1963". That ladder looks pretty precarious.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Getty Research Institute

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Here's a set of floor plans.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/01EgFi.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u9voRcLhZU...TEIN_PLANS.jpg



and the seating arraignment in the living room
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/YBGrdA.jpg

The couches are even visible in the floor plans I posted above.

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ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2016 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 7640903)
I think it's at what is now TBS. The foreground would be for water- a pond to shoot ocean scenes.
IIRC it was destroyed to accommodate the enlargement of another set for a teevee show

Ed, when you say TBS do you mean The Burbank Studios, formerly NBC Studios?

If so, I think my two construction photos I posted yesterday predate that studio.

Here's an aerial of NBC Studios. Not much there in 1952.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/QOB9T6.jpg
http://www.scottymoore.net/NBCStudio4.html

"In 1951 NBC purchased 19 acres of land from the city of Burbank and 30 acres from Jack Warner.
It was originally an old riverbed wash and part of Warner Brothers Studio exterior backlot that was used infrequently." -Scotty Moore


I could be wrong, but I think the machinery in my 'mystery' pic look much older than the 1950s. (see below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/qyTz3N.jpg

I may be way off the mark, I would guess the roller-machines were from the 1920s or 30s.





There were numerous additional buildings by 1955 (aerial below) but I don't see an outdoor set that matches the 2 sepia pics.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/2dMpBR.jpg
courtesy http://wesclark.com/burbankia



And still no such set in this aerial dated 1962

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/pZPeP3.jpg
http://www.scottymoore.net/NBCStudio4.html

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I know there was a set like Ed described at Paramount (1970 aerial below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/phPsGo.jpg
http://www.retroweb.com/tv_studios_and_ranches.html


But the large 'backdrop' is attached to a structure that has a peaked roof with six large vents.

close-up
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/C9mFBH.jpg
detail



For comparison, here's the second of my two mystery pics again.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/4ObhqH.jpg
ebay

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update:

I decided to included the other mystery pic as well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/bd18Rv.png

ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2016 1:19 AM

Remember this?
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7638269)

I finally found Albert McFarland in the 1892 L.A. City Directory.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/nuaCJ9.jpg
lapl

Mr. McFarland was the treasurer and business manager for the [I]Times Mirror Co.

But I'm a bit confused by the address (which I believe would be the location of the bungalow)

to denote residence, the directory usually has a 'r' or 'res', so what do they mean by 'r s e c'? (it's probably something obvious & I'm going to be embarrassed )

And as you can see, the streets are Arnold and Lucas Ave.

Well,l I found Lucas Ave. in the 'Crown Hills' area between downtown and present-day MacAurthur Park, but the only Arnold Avenue I could find is west of the 405!
-many miles away.
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ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2016 1:40 AM

re: Hollywood Boulevard in "Rule Don't Apply"

Originally posted by Martin Pal (I enlarged it a bit, I hope you don't mind)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/ZY2eXM.jpg
On Set Hollywoof
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal
What kind of special effect do you think this is? Inserted car into actual footage, or recreated in a computer or what? I can't really tell myself.

However they did it, they did a fantastic job!

:previous: I noticed there's a Vic Tanny's in Martin's 'Rules Don't Apply' photo so I thought it was a good time to post a snapshot I found on ebay awhile back.





http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/9lAC6S.jpg
eBay

I believe this Vic Tanny's was somewhere in Santa Monica.


Here's VIC!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/IToQU8.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Muscle-Build...-/400801607975

I'm curious, was there really a Vic Tanny's location on Hollywood Boulevard, or was it just added for the film? (I don't recall seeing it before)
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tovangar2 Dec 4, 2016 3:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7641178)
And as you can see, the streets are Arnold and Lucas Ave.
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That intersection was at "X" on the right side of the map.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/h-...0Sw=w1366-h768
calisphere

Arnold and Lucas isn't far from where the Witmers built their homes http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=30207

Flyingwedge Dec 4, 2016 4:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7641178)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7638269)

I finally found Albert McFarland in the 1892 L.A. City Directory.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/nuaCJ9.jpg
lapl

But I'm a bit confused by the address (which I believe would be the location of the bungalow)

to denote residence, the directory usually has a 'r' or 'res', so what do they mean by 'r s e c'? (it's probably something obvious & I'm going to be embarrassed )

And as you can see, the streets are Arnold and Lucas Ave.

Well,l I found Lucas Ave. in the 'Crown Hills' area between downtown and present-day MacAurthur Park, but the only Arnold Avenue I could find is west of the 405!
-many miles away.
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e_r, your ebay photo of the McFarland residence can also be found online here.

Here's another photo of the McFarland residence on the SE corner ("r s e c") of Lucas and Arnold from Los Angeles and Environs
Illustrated
(1894):

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original

LAPL/Flyingwedge photo


I will supplement t2's map -- Hi, t2! -- with the 1894 Sanborn, which shows Lucas and Arnold down near the lower left corner:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...p.jpg~original

LAPL


Fourth Street west of Lucas was realigned to the south in the early 1990s, and what is shown below as Miramar Street is
3rd Street on the 1894 map. So the McFarland house was on what is now the SE corner of Lucas and 3rd (formerly Arnold):

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original

Googlemap

FredH Dec 4, 2016 4:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 5549325)
Of course I knew it was the planet as soon as I posted comet. And I wondered how long it would take to get corrected. Looking around, I found another company sign pre-Mutual of Omaha. Anyone ever heard of "General of America Insurance"

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...ngGeneralo.jpg

NEAT-STUFF-BLOG-BLOGSPOT.COM



Here is another Vic Tanny Gym on Wilshire Blvd. It was posted almost five years ago by KevinW


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