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HomrQT Jun 30, 2019 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Flaccer05 (Post 8620242)
Wicked good angle here. :slob::slob::slob:

BonoboZill4 Jul 1, 2019 3:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bnk (Post 8620483)
I hope so I hate the suburban gated subdivision that is Dearborn Park

Perhaps after the value of the space in 30 years could do that.


But this is right now a sun non barrier. Giving great views for the buildings to the east and the eventual buildings to the west that will go up.

My main issue is the road network around there. There needs to have the roads with go throughs even if it takes some townhomes down to fix the mess and recreate the Chicago Grid.
Yep, the South Loop will be a nightmare traffic wise in the very near future if they don't figure that out.

Skyguy_7 Jul 1, 2019 2:05 PM
^^ Dearborn Park is an annoyance to us pro-grid outsiders, but it must be pretty great to live in that suburban oasis. Little crime, no bums. Relative peace and tranquility. And a bustling city just outside the gates.

gebs Jul 1, 2019 2:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8620790)
^^ Dearborn Park is an annoyance to us pro-grid outsiders, but it must be pretty great to live in that suburban oasis. Little crime, no bums. Relative peace and tranquility. And a bustling city just outside the gates.
Amen to that. I completely understand and agree with everyone's comments about how DP kills connectivity ... but it's a great place to live because it's tough to find a quiet place so close to the downtown core.

I just hope they never tear down actual Dearborn Park. Trees are important.

Kenmore Jul 1, 2019 3:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8620790)
^^ Dearborn Park is an annoyance to us pro-grid outsiders, but it must be pretty great to live in that suburban oasis. Little crime, no bums. Relative peace and tranquility. And a bustling city just outside the gates.

lol, hard pass

r18tdi Jul 1, 2019 7:18 PM
OT, but I once rode a divvy down one of the streets in Dearborn park and some woman with little kids said to me "Excuse me, excuse me! what are you doing here? There aren't any stations in this neighborhood!" lol

donnie Jul 1, 2019 8:27 PM
sweet shots Bone

AMWChicago Jul 2, 2019 1:07 AM
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...0-million-loan

Is this confirmation that they are preliminarily attempting to finance NEMA II next door? I know this is related to the one up now, but the fact that they are refinancing and not straight up selling feels like the move to make as you progress to the next stage of construction. I'm probably out of my depth here. And maybe trying to come up with I want to hear, but is this a good sign for an upcoming Stage Two???

BonoboZill4 Jul 2, 2019 2:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AMWChicago (Post 8621283)
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...0-million-loan

Is this confirmation that they are preliminarily attempting to finance NEMA II next door? I know this is related to the one up now, but the fact that they are refinancing and not straight up selling feels like the move to make as you progress to the next stage of construction. I'm probably out of my depth here. And maybe trying to come up with I want to hear, but is this a good sign for an upcoming Stage Two???
35% already leased is a damn good sign if you ask me. By the end of the summer they could be half way filled

Skyy Jul 2, 2019 9:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Flaccer05 (Post 8620242)

Can you imagine what this would look like with the 78? Would feel like an urban canyon :worship:

Ned.B Jul 2, 2019 9:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyy (Post 8621493)
Can you imagine what this would look like with the 78? Would feel like an urban canyon :worship:
It could be our own Central Park!...except with a pseudo gated community instead of public green space.

dan ryan Jul 2, 2019 9:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ned.B (Post 8622117)
It could be our own Central Park!...except with a pseudo gated community instead of public green space.
Yeah something has to be done about Dearborn Park. You all think it will ever be something better?

Would be nice if it was just park space. Or if all of the homes became affordable housing with some good public space in there for everyone.

BonoboZill4 Jul 3, 2019 1:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dan ryan (Post 8622137)
Yeah something has to be done about Dearborn Park. You all think it will ever be something better?

Would be nice if it was just park space. Or if all of the homes became affordable housing with some good public space in there for everyone.
I wouldn't expect anything for at least another 50-100 years. Too many large single family homes for it to be removed. Perhaps Dearborn Park one's communist style housing might be removed before then, but DPII is not going anywhere in my lifetime for certain.

BonoboZill4 Jul 3, 2019 11:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/onSoF0e.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/5BAN4Uc.jpg?1

gebs Jul 5, 2019 1:25 PM
I love how Vista lines up in this shot with NEMA's last setback. Great framing!

harryc Jul 6, 2019 11:42 AM
June 28

Chicago | Essex on the park by Harry Carmichael, on Flickr

BonoboZill4 Jul 9, 2019 3:38 AM
https://i.imgur.com/7P5RpzQ.jpg?1

Distant cousins?

https://i.imgur.com/jmYS3ZY.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/XZ4WnVy.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/wAymLbl.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/CcT7zrV.jpg?1

ardecila Jul 9, 2019 6:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BonoboZill4 (Post 8622324)
I wouldn't expect anything for at least another 50-100 years. Too many large single family homes for it to be removed. Perhaps Dearborn Park one's communist style housing might be removed before then, but DPII is not going anywhere in my lifetime for certain.
Communist? There's nothing communist about any of those buildings. They have bay windows and wedding-cake setbacks, for crying out loud... and the one I've actually been in (801 S Plymouth) has a beautiful lobby with brick and woodwork.

The site plans leave a lot to be desired, though, and the inward orientation/blank walls along Clark, Polk, State, etc aren't doing them any favors.

BonoboZill4 Jul 9, 2019 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 8627821)
Communist? There's nothing communist about any of those buildings. They have bay windows and wedding-cake setbacks, for crying out loud... and the one I've actually been in (801 S Plymouth) has a beautiful lobby with brick and woodwork.

The site plans leave a lot to be desired, though, and the inward orientation/blank walls along Clark, Polk, State, etc aren't doing them any favors.
I believe you may be confused what part of Dearborn Park I'm referring to:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8699...7i16384!8i8192

Do you not agree this gives slight bloc housing vibes (albeit in low-rise format). They are ugly and cheaply built and not densely packed. Hopefully that makes them prime candidates for redevelopment in the coming decades.

Sorry for such an off topic comment...

SolarWind Jul 10, 2019 1:50 AM
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