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minkykat Jan 20, 2012 8:01 PM

Say, George Dolenz, Tv's "Count of Monte Cristo" had his own eatery for a while. Anyone have any pics of it? I believe that it was named after his tv show.

Bilbo Jan 20, 2012 9:17 PM

"Sunset House"
Whilst reading about the 30s and 40s Los Angeles I came across a reference to "Sunset House" - I have tried without - success - to find out more about it - is it still standing and what was its exact location ?

Do any pictures exist of what it was like back then ?:shrug:

GaylordWilshire Jan 20, 2012 9:48 PM

The houses that cafeterias built, part III...
Well, actually, it turns out that the Schabers--cousins of the Boos brothers who opened a few of their own Los Angeles cafeterias--were either not as successful as their relatives, or at least not as pretentious. Their various Mid-City and Cheviot Hills homes were quite a bit more modest, and there's really nothing much left of them to show here. Pictures of their cafeterias, other than the one at 620 S. Broadway, are rare. In fact, all I could find of the others were small, fuzzy images.

Another vintage shot of 620 S. Broadway--a great pic showing See's, Desmond's, and Silverwood's signs. Question: What exactly is the piece of street furniture to the left of lamppost? The building still stands, as we've seen in a prior post, but the sidewalk has been replaced.

If I've got this right, at some point Al and Erhard Schaber swapped buildings with the owner of 720 S. Hill--no idea why. The Broadway building was a Forum Cafeteria in the mid '50s, one of a national chain that seems to have acquired the Schaber operations somewhere along the line. This is the only pic of the Hill Street location I could find:

The building still stands: Street View

The Schabers and/or the Forum chain also operated a store at Wilshire and LaBrea, which didn't last long. One on Victory Drive in North Hollywood lasted longer. The pic below is of one or the other:

ethereal_reality Jan 20, 2012 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5557848)

I had forgotten all about See's Candies until this photo. The equivalent in Illinois was Fanny Mae's. Thanks for the flashback G_W.

GaylordWilshire Jan 20, 2012 11:20 PM

See's is one of those businesses that have always said Los Angeles to me. Whenever I leave LAX I take La Cienega north and make sure to look for the See's factory on the left, somewhere around Jefferson.

A while back I read that the original factory at 135 N. Western Ave might be torn down for a mini-mall, but it looks like it's still there... Street View

Then...'s Candies/Los Angeles Times's Candies/Los Angeles Times

Steve Hoffman Jan 20, 2012 11:29 PM

Wow, did that See's building get dilapidated or what? Sad, actually. I mean, I'm glad the building still stands but it looks like something out of a war zone now.

ethereal_reality Jan 20, 2012 11:52 PM

Here is another photograph of Schaber's Cafeteria showing the See's Candies Shop, circa 1940.

below: Boos Bros. Cafeteria can be seen bottom right in this view looking north on Olive from 7th Street in 1930.

GaylordWilshire Jan 21, 2012 1:26 AM


Boos Cafeteria at 618 S. Olive became Clifton's in the mid '30s; it was converted to the famous "Pacific Seas" cafeteria in 1939, lasting until 1960.

Here it is post-Boos, pre Pacific Seas:'s

Has anyone been downtown lately to see how the facade-removal is going on Clifton's Brookdale?

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2012 3:53 AM

Some interesting photos I recently found on ebay.

below: This is the entire photo.


below: Close-ups of several 'touring' cars from Hasting's Place.

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2012 4:10 AM

Jennie Lee...the girl with the big 'eyes'.


ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2012 5:16 AM

I found this Arthur Fellig (aka 'weegee') photograph on ebay earlier this week. The seller dated the photo 1947.

below: details


below: Two excellent close-ups of the crowd.

I'm not sure of the exact location of this photograph....the mortuary seems to be the best clue.


3940dxer Jan 21, 2012 5:26 AM

Las Palmas Market
This small market at 1259 N. Las Palmas at Fountain in Hollywood has long interested me. This is a residential area, about a block west of De Longpre Park. The place is still there and still looks like an old country store. Wonder how long it's been around?

ethereal_reality Jan 21, 2012 5:36 AM

:previous: I couldn't resist a before and after 3940dxer. :)
google street view

I wonder if the current owners know the history of the place? It would be interesting to see if there are old photos hanging inside.


FredH Jan 21, 2012 6:12 AM


According to the L.A. County Assessor's website, it was built in 1912, 1040 square feet.

Their website is a good reference for history of buildings, but like any government website it is balky and frustrating to use. :hell:

...and for $1,500.00, you can buy a nice painting of the place

3940dxer Jan 21, 2012 7:28 AM


Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5507692) Guy Guy

The only vaguely noirish thing--and I admit that it's a stretch--about The Burger That Ate L.A. once at the se corner of Melrose and Stanley was its replication of City Hall. I'm not sure what happened to it--the City Hall part--when it became a chicken place, but Starbucks seems for some reason to have felt the need to restore the shape (if it wasn't eventually to become a parking lot, a gas station, a minimart, a strip mall, it would have to have become a Starbucks, right?).

Per a commenter on the photographer's website: "The restaurant is in the shape of a huge 2-story burger. Bar stools are shaped like pickle wedges and suspended above your head is an enormous tomato slice suspended from the top bun! The counter where you eat is between the two buns which act as the floor and the ceiling."

GaylordWilshire Jan 21, 2012 1:32 PM


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5558360)

I'm not sure of the exact location of this photograph....the mortuary seems to be the best clue.

Presumably New Year's Eve....

Utter-McKinley was at 6240 Hollywood Blvd--southeast corner of Argyle--the empty corner lot near the center of shot. (I know people have the need to name their businesses after themselves, but if my name was Utter... but I digress.) The scene now: Street View

The Pantages is behind the camera. Argyle Street seems to be the border of the old and new
Hollywood Blvd. The difference is dramatic. The view west is high-rise... Street View

...the view east, still low-rise: Street View


GaylordWilshire Jan 21, 2012 2:32 PM

It's still there at 6640 Sunset, more or less. Same palm out front, and you can still see the outlines of the little gable windows... Street View

One hallmark of Golden Age Hollywood movies is the name Westmore in the credits. I noticed that there were several Westmores--Perc, Bud, and Wally were the names you see most often--but apparently there were alot of them. Bud was at Universal, Wally at Paramount, and Perc at Warners... one site refers to the scandals of the clan, but doesn't elaborate other than to mention the third wife of this one or the fourth husband of that one. Anyway, I was curious about the reflection in the windows... Street View

...and found school and church buildings I've never really noticed before. The Blessed Sacrament: Street View

Blessed Sacrament was two blocks north at Hollywood and Cherokee until 1924:

3940dxer Jan 21, 2012 3:48 PM

The Hot Dog Show, 450 S. La Cienega
1949 menu from the Hot Dog Show at 450 S. La Cienega, between Colgate and Clifton. This would have been a few blocks south of Tail O' The Pup and Lucas Kiddie Land. It seems that the address is now extinct.

Those Who Squirm! Jan 21, 2012 7:30 PM


Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5551058)

Every time I see high-rise pants in old movies, I wonder--especially considering that these were the days before Jockeys became popular--umm... how it was all arranged without revealing certain contours, IF you know what I mean. Perhaps the costume designers had their tricks.... Anyway... this is really out of the scope of the thread....

Jockey shorts have probably been around longer than you think, having been wildly successful from their introduction in 1935. On the other hand, to my knowledge they have never, ever been depicted in film or literature as something cool guys wear. Go figure...

rcarlton Jan 21, 2012 8:08 PM

Carlton Theatre
Here is the Carlton Theatre in LA:

Torn down now. Was located at 5409 S. Western Avenue, Los Angeles, CA. This theatre is famous (?) for having the March 1957 preview of Grave Robbers from Outer Space (later renamed: Plan 9 from Outer Space) which was shot in 1956. This was Béla Ferenc Dezső Blaskó (Bela Lugosi) last film.


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