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Handsome Stranger Jul 27, 2011 9:31 PM

Here are a few recent eBay finds. I hope these haven't been posted previously...I don't remember seeing them here, but with this forum totaling 215 pages now it's not easy to keep track of everything that has already appeared.

I'm also a little skeptical that the locations indicated are 100% accurate, so I welcome any corrections.

Sunset Blvd., 1903

[source: eBay]

Westlake Park, about 1905

[source: eBay]

Wilcox Building, year unknown.

[source: eBay]

5th & Hill Street, year unknown.

[source: eBay]

Downtown Streetcar, 1912

[source: eBay]

Miracle Mile, 1929

[source: eBay]

gsjansen Jul 28, 2011 1:44 PM

every so often, even noir needs a little color to brighten things up!

some historical postcard scans

Clifton's Pacific Seas 618 South Olive Street - 1950

Chinese Theater 6925 Hollywood Boulevard - 1973

looking north on vine street from sunset boulevard - 1954

CBS Television City 7800 Beverly Boulevard - 1958

Ambassador Hotel 3400 Wilshire Boulevard - 1961

looking east from beaudry across the harbor freeway towards the civic center - 1964

gsjansen Jul 29, 2011 4:56 PM

speaking of color.........this 1973 photograph looking north on main across 4th street was just recently posted on the Vintage Los Angeles facebook page. wow! the follies in full living color!
Source: VLA Facebook page

Los Angeles Past Jul 29, 2011 9:18 PM

*chuckle* I'm more impressed with that lowrider. Wasn't Main a northbound one-way street even back then?

GaylordWilshire Jul 29, 2011 10:02 PM


Well, that looks like a '72 or '73 Imperial to me.... if it's a lowrider it's probably not the kind that does tricks. Now, it's hard to tell, but a few tricks might be turning in that back seat.... Looks to me like the lean is really just due to its having turned practically on two wheels off 4th Street... note the rubber on the road. The tire marks and the Follies are gone, but at least the Barclay remains:

gsjansen Jul 29, 2011 10:57 PM

hey scott,

the person who posted the photograph, clarified it by stating that it was a screen capture from the movie uptown saturday night.........

funny, as i recall, that bill cosby, sidney poitier flick was supposed to take place in chicago......................................hmmmmmmmmm, (imdb confirms that the movie takes place in the windy city, but pick up shots are indeed filmed in the city of angeles..........)

anyway, that explains why the traffic is flowing against the normal grain.

cleats Jul 29, 2011 11:49 PM

Great shot of Wilcox building and H. Jevne was a grocer who was at 40 Spring Street as early as 1882 but listed at 208 S. Spring in 1909 Guessing at 19-ought-something since Sun Drug started in LA after 1901 and streetcar is electric
Shot from LAPL shows area in 1913.

MikeD Jul 30, 2011 12:03 AM

That picture of Television City reminded me of some addresses I been trying to find for awhile. I'll bet that somebody on this forum can answer these two questions. I've searched the internet but came up empty.

Does anybody know what the street address of Four Star Productions was? This was the production company owned by Dick Powell and 3 other stars that produced, among other shows, 'The Rifleman' and 'The Big Valley'.

How about Revue Studios, producers of 'Wagon Train' and 'Leave it to Beaver' ? I think it became Universal Television. I've seen clips of the building where it looks like it has a street address, not buried in Universal Studios.

Thanks in advance!

cleats Jul 30, 2011 12:08 AM

Frostonya mystery
Wondering if anyone might have suggestions about a mystery about the Frostonya apartments. Photo here from LAPL.
In big pictorial map of LA from 1932 called Greater Los Angeles the Wonder City of America... the artist draws a big circle around the Frostonya. The artist was a transplanted German named Karl Leuschner who created this great map but why was the Frostonya singled out? Leuschner did not seem to live there and the company who published the map were not in the building.

ethereal_reality Jul 30, 2011 2:52 AM

What a beautiful apartment building cleats! Luckily it has survived. I'm still trying to find an answer to your Leuschner mystery.
google street views

ethereal_reality Jul 30, 2011 2:57 AM

The street north of Frostonya Apts. is Oakwood Avenue (now an on-ramp to to the Hollywood Freeway).

below: A contemporary view of the entrance.
google street view

gsjansen Jul 30, 2011 12:23 PM

Kelly Kar Co. Figueroa between 12th nad pico 1947

GaylordWilshire Jul 30, 2011 12:35 PM


And a detail...
Leuschner lived at 1323½ Lemoyne per the '29 city directory... the wire between the KFSG
radio towers atop Aimee's joint in this fragment of the big map marks the spot. He taught at
Otis in those days, when it was located at "The Bivouac"...

Scroll to the bottom of this post for a description of an apartment in the Frostonoya:

Not that any of this explains Leuschner's circle....

gsjansen Jul 30, 2011 1:56 PM

a very interesting map centered on the plaza, showing buildings and streets that no longer exist, along with the current streets and buildings that do.

streets which no longer exist are shown in a light grey, and/or labeled in italics

the 101 freeway and its ramps are shown in a darker grey

Buildings which no longer exist are outlined with dotted lines, (for some reason, the lugo adobe is shown as still existing??)
Source: LA Nopalera

malumot Jul 30, 2011 5:27 PM

Hallo everybody............

So last night I'm channel surfing at around 12:10 am...... Guess what I see coming up in FIVE MINUTES on Turner Classic..........


Yup. They ran it last nite.

Opening and closing shot: Clay, just north of Angels Flight, in the exact same spot where Mike Hammer parked his little convertible in Kiss Me Deadly.

As to the movie.....Let's just say it was a student movie. But the insight into what things were like in LA 50 years ago was instructive. Life was harder, with sharper edges. And that just didn't apply to the Indians.

Watching it will deflate some of the romantic notions many of us (myself included) hold about Bunker Hill and the Main Street bars. Could - and should - the Engstrum have been saved? Absolutely. The Sunshine? No way in the world. Bunker Hill WAS a slum.

The crime wasn't so much in the redevelopment of Bunker Hill (it needed it) as it was the nuclear leveling of the place.

Handsome Stranger Jul 30, 2011 7:52 PM

malumot, interesting post about The Exiles. Hadn't heard of it until now. I'll see if I can locate a DVD and do some frame grabs of the Bunker Hill shots.

GaylordWilshire, thanks for the image of Leuschner's map. I love historic maps that show landmarks, and this one is new to me.

I've been looking around the net for a larger version. (OK, and maybe I'm looking for an affordable reprint too.) I'm a little puzzled why some versions on the net show the circle around the Frostonya...

(source: Los Angeles Times)

...while others versions of the same map have no such circle.



Are we certain the map was originally drawn and published with a circle around the Frostonya?

EDIT: Still searching around the net, and I stumbled across a few very large, high-quality images of early pictoral maps of Los Angeles at a site called (Not the Leuschner map, however.)

This 1909 birdseye map has a staggering amount of detail, with names for virtually all major buildings and businesses in Los Angeles at the time.

Der Blut Jul 30, 2011 10:49 PM

The Exiles is currently on Netflix streaming. FYI.

gsjansen Jul 31, 2011 2:13 AM

Hey, Handsome Stranger, (and anyone else who wants), you can view the full sized Leuschner's map at this locale

Los Angeles the Wonder City 1932


ethereal_reality Jul 31, 2011 4:19 AM

^^^That map is amazing! Thanks for the link gsjansen.


I'm watching 'The Unfaithful' (1947) tonight on TCM.
Impressive scene on Angels Flight...among others.

ethereal_reality Jul 31, 2011 5:00 AM

After a bit of 'googling' I found this....

The Angels Flight scene from 'The Unfaithful'.
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