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GaylordWilshire Jan 3, 2017 1:38 PM

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My favorite swing dancers, other than Frankie Manning and Norma Miller--


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cD...56Q=w1366-h768

Earl Boebert Jan 3, 2017 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7665993)
Sailors in dress blue uniform are still wearing 13 button trousers in 2017.
Tradition is hard to change in the Navy.

The famous dress blue trousers made their debut in the early 19th century as part of an effort to develop uniformity within the enlisted ranks while creating a distinct appearance. Bell-bottoms are easily distinguishable.

In 1817, after 42 years of confusion over enlisted men's attire, the War Department finally dared to enforce a uniform regulation for its rag-clad naval force, demanding that enlisted men wear "blue jackets and trousers, red vest with yellow buttons and a black hat."

Few people know it but the bell-bottom trousers are actually fixed tight to the body by shoe-string laces in the back.


When I was in Sea Scouts in the 1950s our dress uniforms were US Navy enlisted dress blues, surplus from Treasure Island, with the Sea Scout "bug" sown over the stars. The "tan pajamas" (1505s) I wore in the Air Force were a hell of a lot more practical :-)

Cheers,

Earl

odinthor Jan 3, 2017 4:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7665993)
Sailors in dress blue uniform are still wearing 13 button trousers in 2017.
Tradition is hard to change in the Navy.

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Few people know it but the bell-bottom trousers are actually fixed tight to the body by shoe-string laces in the back.

Very interesting! How does this work?--the laces go around the leg? Or do you mean the upper part of the trousers has a a corset-like feature?

tovangar2 Jan 3, 2017 7:36 PM

The Darkroom
 
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Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 7666028)
I'm almost certain the camera-tavern next door has been seen here before:

http://i.imgur.com/6GUCGpq.jpg
GSV


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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5865301)

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5986678)

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Martin Pal Jan 3, 2017 7:54 PM

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Martin Pal Jan 3, 2017 7:58 PM

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Enjoyed the jitterbug and swing dance photos Lorendoc and GW (Frankie Manning is 102!).

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/HC-285.jpg
Torrence/Hollywood Photographs

CAPTION: Sally Butterfly Dancing the jitterbug with PFC A. DeFlaminis at the Hollywood Canteen, 1944.

I haven't been able to find anything out about Sally Butterfly, if indeed that's her name. (Or PFC DeFlaminis, for that matter.)

Awhile ago I was looking for examples of jitterbug dancing online. I found this great MGM short that's a humorous instructional
and historical piece about the dance. It culminates in some great dance moves.

Video Link


The blond dancer in the Marine uniform (:previous:) does a jitterbug dance with Charlotte Greenwood in the 1943 color film "The Gang's All Here."
In that film he's credited as Charles Saggau. That film also has swing dancing in Benny Goodman's number "Minnie's in the Money."

There's also a great dance number in the 1943 b&w film "The Powers Girl," where they do a jitterbug number in the pouring rain!

GaylordWilshire Jan 3, 2017 8:21 PM

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Frankie Manning died in NY in 2009 a month shy of his 95th birthday, dancing practically until the end.

Beaudry Jan 3, 2017 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 7666028)
Browsing some more through the Daily News archives just now, I found a picture that reminded me of the discussion of the "staged/not staged" photo at Ciro's:

http://i.imgur.com/I8hUwCj.jpg
UCLA Special Collections

The caption was: "Overhead view of crowded auditorium during Jitterbug Dance contest Los Angeles, Calif., 1939."

This reminds me of the hardcore shows of the early '80s. During big ones, say at the Olympic Auditorium, you'd have multiple slam pits. Didn't quite find a shot of that, but here's a 1983 Black Flag Olympic gig that conveys a similar feel, despite the (forty+ years and) vast ideological divide between the two camps:

https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/644/31...5eb8e8dc_b.jpg
edcolver

tovangar2 Jan 3, 2017 10:07 PM

13-button
 
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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7665993)

Few people know it but the bell-bottom trousers are actually fixed tight to the body by shoe-string laces in the back.

Thank you CBD, I'm one of the ones who did not know that:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ju...xE0=w1366-h768
etsy

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8t...kRg=w1366-h768
etsy

ethereal_reality Jan 3, 2017 10:34 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/TSMmgC.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Jan 3, 2017 10:53 PM

An organ grinder and his monkey visits Berendo street in Los Feliz, 1926.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/x1WQfD.jpg
courtesy Marjorie Monteleone Romer

"The organ grinder would let children play with his monkey. It was always good for a squeal and a laugh.
Little Marjorie Monteleone clutched the monkey in the front yard of her home at 1909 N. Berendo Street in 1926.
Even the Ralph’s Grocery delivery man stopped his truck long enough to be amused by the monkey.
He may even have slipped him a banana."
-lfia





Here's lil' Marjorie's home and front yard today. (note how the tree has grown)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/SqCKKd.jpg
gsv



And here's the house across the street that's visible in the vintage photograph.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/6zfZ4A.jpg
gsv

tovangar2 Jan 3, 2017 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7666617)

(note how that tree has grown!)

...and changed from a Queen palm into a carrotwood (or something. Help me odinthor)

odinthor Jan 3, 2017 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7666627)
...and changed from a Queen palm into a carrotwood (or something. Help me odinthor)

Yes, I'm scratching my head on this one. Looking at the trunk and surface roots, my first thought was . . . Magnolia; but it would have to be the time of year when Mags are semi-dormant and look pretty sparse. The trunk looks Carrotwood-y; but the leaves are more Camphor Tree-y. :shrug: I guess I'll stick with sad Magnolia! The tree with branches extending into the upper left corner of the "across the street" pic definitely has that Magnolia-in-the-sparse-season look.

odinthor Jan 3, 2017 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7666573)


Whew, that makes more sense than my first thought, which was that the trousers' bell-bottoms were somehow kept secured to the leg so that they wouldn't flap around.

ethereal_reality Jan 3, 2017 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7666627)
...and changed from a Queen palm into a carrotwood.

Well I never said I was an arborist. ;)

tovangar2 Jan 4, 2017 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7666658)
Well I never said I was an arborist. ;)

Me either Boss. My second son was nuts about trees. They could have been dinosaurs arranged along the boulevards and he couldn't have been any more thrilled. Anything I know about trees was from research I did to satisfy his questions.


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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7666652)
Whew, that makes more sense than my first thought, which was that the trousers' bell-bottoms were somehow kept secured to the leg so that they wouldn't flap around.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who went somewhere that's else. I think maybe, prompted by Blaster, I looked at too many Olivia pin-ups (considering the visual I got).

ethereal_reality Jan 4, 2017 1:04 AM

I wish I had more information to go with this photograph. (I found it a few weeks ago on ebay / it's no longer listed)

"Young lady dressed up, Los Angeles."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/KkLUKM.jpg
ebay

perhaps she's modeling a satin bridesmaid dress....maybe prom....or perhaps she made the dress herself.

I like the deep niche above the fireplace. I don't recall seeing one quite like it.
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ethereal_reality Jan 4, 2017 1:13 AM

I just happened upon this amazing old postcard on ebay.

"1911 Los Angeles, California - REAL PHOTO Apartment Bldg, Hotel, Devon Inn"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/CT1z0E.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-Los-Ang...IAAOSwImRYZZJ3


back
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/VwIFkB.jpg




turned for easier reading

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/DOh37b.png

:previous: "This is a poor picture. I am on the side that doesn't show."

link to the photograph in ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-Los-Ang...IAAOSwImRYZZJ3

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GaylordWilshire Jan 4, 2017 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7666740)
I wish I had more information to go with this photograph. (I found it a few weeks ago on ebay / it's no longer listed)

"A young lady dressed up, Los Angeles."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/KkLUKM.jpg
ebay

perhaps she's modeling a satin bridesmaid dress....or...maybe prom.

I like the deep niche above the fireplace.
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Everything about this is stylistically atrocious, in a fun way. The satin, the bustier, the ruffles, the antimacassars.... Obviously shot by an LA counterpart of Diane Arbus

CityBoyDoug Jan 4, 2017 1:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7666573)

Hey thanks Tov2 for posting the photos of just How It All Works..!!

The current Navy uniform is the same design but it's now made of Gabardine rather than wool. This was a much needed improvement for many reasons.

But the pathetic ridiculous item today in 2017 is that enlisted Navy women wear the jumper top of the "crackerjack" uniform. This a rank insult on three levels: It insults the Navy, insults males and most of all it's a hideous insult to women.

Navy enlisted women already had a very well designed and good looking female uniform. [So why is it that many military women want to be males and even look like males?]
Haven't they noticed that the male and female bodies are different?

The traditional Navy enlisted uniform was designed specifically for males. When you put that on a female she looks absurd....like its Halloween.



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