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ethereal_reality Nov 23, 2014 3:51 PM

:previous: Whoa, good eye Godzilla!


The greedy developer sure filled up that wedge of land where Carl's used to be. I'd hate to have windows facing one of the light-wells.
He appears to have used every inch of available land (except for maybe at the tip). yeech $$$

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/EUno1Q.png
detail / gsv



below: Do we know anything about this impressive house and grounds? For a brief second I thought it might be my
mystery' house.http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24733

originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/oDQv7C.jpg
usc

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ethereal_reality Nov 23, 2014 4:49 PM

Oddities found on the Warner Bros. property lot in Burbank (1940s).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/VA1gPV.jpg
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/L8ELQ1.jpg
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Match up the oddity with the movie they appeared in to win a monkey from Monkey Island.;)


reverse
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ethereal_reality Nov 23, 2014 4:54 PM

Rosslyn Hotel, Los Angeles (1940s) 1100 Rooms...that's amazing when you think about it. How many rooms are in the Biltmore? -Bonaventure?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/BBsF7j.jpg
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Can you work your 'color magic' on this one HossC? :)
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HossC Nov 23, 2014 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6818193)

below: Do we know anything about this impressive house and grounds? For a brief second I thought it might be my
mystery' house.http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24733

originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/oDQv7C.jpg
usc

Here's a closer view of the house.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...leinHouse1.jpg
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

The house belonged to George Zobelein (of Maier & Zobelein's Brewery fame). The picture below dates from 1925 (11 years before the aerial above), and its description says "Exterior view of the Zobelein residence on Figueroa, opposite Exposition Park." As far as I can tell from the 1921 Baist map, the grounds used to extend to Figueroa, hence the difference in addresses. It's right on the corner of four different maps, so I'll see if I can stitch something together. The inset is from the 1936 CD (the same date as the aerial). The house had already been replaced by the current building by 1948 (looking at Historic Aerials).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...leinHouse2.jpg
LAPL

ethereal_reality Nov 23, 2014 5:01 PM

:previous: Thanks for answering my question HossC.

HossC Nov 23, 2014 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6818220)

Rosslyn Hotel, Los Angeles (1940s) 1100 Rooms...that's amazing when you think about it. How many rooms are in the Biltmore? -Bonaventure?

Can you work your 'color magic' on this one HossC? :)

I can certainly make it better :).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...d.jpg~original

CityBoyDoug Nov 23, 2014 6:10 PM

Footlight Parade.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6818219)
Oddities found on the Warner Bros. property lot in Burbank (1940s).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/VA1gPV.jpg
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Looks like it could be from one of the Busby Berkeley Warner Bros. movies. The movies with the rotating, many tiered scenes of dancing ladies. That's a guess based on its appearance and location.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psf39f126c.jpg
Warner Bros. archives

ethereal_reality Nov 23, 2014 6:20 PM

:previous: I have to say....that's a pretty interesting guess CityBoyDoug.

My guess is much less imaginative. I was thinking more along the lines of a water-wheel/grinding stone for a mill.




Here's a larger view.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/746/NpukeO.jpg

ethereal_reality Nov 23, 2014 6:31 PM

A few weeks ago I came across this early photograph of Abbot Kinney's home in Pasadena/Sierra Madre. He named the house and the surrounding 550 acres 'Kinneloa".

1880s.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/Jh7lP2.jpg
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USC says this is a view of Kinneloa taken in 1905, but it doesn't look like the same house to me. (remodeled?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/v1A3N9.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/6199

Among other things, it looks like the centered cupola was moved to the front of the house. -and there are gabled windows now
Maybe this isn't even the same house. Does anyone know if the first one burned down?




Abbot Kinney, the father of 'Venice of America'.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/VD1MDR.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbot_K...circa_1900.jpg

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CityBoyDoug Nov 23, 2014 6:58 PM

Night in Los Angeles....1946
 
A mesmerizing and haunting Saturday night time capsule...YouTube video....link below.
This is one I had not seen before today.....if I recall correctly.

The date appears to be March, Saturday night, 1946. There are several fur stores which is something we don't see anymore in 2014. Plus the clothes are very different. Hard to believe things have changed that much in one lifetime.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psceaaa8a1.jpg
YT video

http://youtu.be/4vNwVD6Xxxg?list=PL0...soJ6KhRLWsH01A

AlvaroLegido Nov 23, 2014 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 6817778)
I'll probably get flamed for this almost non sequitur to NLA post but this is something that has always interested me... more as a curiosity... and minor annoyance.
It's driving me mad, I tell you!

Actually I think the subject has come up before. Not too generally speaking, there's almost nothing we haven't touched on here that even only barely borders on the Noirish.... yet it keeps getting better all time often due to peoples real effort and talent. What a jewel NLA.

Oh, That Old-Timey Movie Accent!

Video example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wFjyu3rD-o#t=144

To a French ear like mine, this accent sounds British. But not quite : it sounds like an american who imitates awkwardly British. The diphtongs are not as much marked. And yes, fhammon, this is annoying. Some 1930s/1940s american actors had a little touch of British accent to my ears (Fred Astaire for instance, mainly when he sings).

HossC Nov 23, 2014 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6818283)

A mesmerizing and haunting Saturday night time capsule...YouTube video....link below.
This is one I had not seen before today.....if I recall correctly.

The date appears to be March, Saturday night, 1946. There are several fur stores which is something we don't see anymore in 2014. Plus the clothes are very different. Hard to believe things have changed that much in one lifetime.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psceaaa8a1.jpg
YT video

http://youtu.be/4vNwVD6Xxxg?list=PL0...soJ6KhRLWsH01A

I'm not sure why the video title includes the word "Hollywood" as the majority was filmed in downtown LA, and the final section tracks alongside a railroad - Alison Martino should know better :).

Most of the video appears to be a black and white duplicate of the color film I linked to a couple of weeks ago in post #24381. You can watch that on archive.org.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6ColorFilm.jpg
archive.org

For the black and white version, here are some familiar sights to look out for. Some get two or even three passes. They all appear in the color version as well, but the timings are different. The color version omits the final sequence which was filmed at a different location.

1:27 & 7:19 Coffee Dan's, 8th Street
1:31 & 7:22 RKO Theatre
1:50, 7:53 & 9:19 Comet's (Tower Theatre)
3:34 Clifton's Pacific Seas
4:26 Hotel Bristol/Golden Gopher
11:09 Coffee Dan's, Broadway

It's a little blurry, but now we know what color the Comet's stores were.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LAComets5.jpg
archive.org

Hollywood Graham Nov 24, 2014 1:22 AM

Downtown Film
 
Looks like it was filmed after 10 when the Acme's were turned off.

Tetsu Nov 24, 2014 3:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6818271)
A few weeks ago I came across this early photograph of Abbot Kinney's home in Pasadena/Sierra Madre. He named the house and the surrounding 550 acres 'Kinneloa".

1880s.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/Jh7lP2.jpg
ebay



USC says this is a view of Kinneloa taken in 1905, but it doesn't look like the same house to me. (remodeled?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/v1A3N9.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/6199

Among other things, it looks like the centered cupola was moved to the front of the house. -and there are gabled windows now
Maybe this isn't even the same house. Does anyone know if the first one burned down?

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Hey e_r, found a page that gives a little more detail about Abbot Kinney and the building of Kinneloa:

http://www.nkrpoa.com/ewExternalFile...oa%20Ranch.pdf

The picture they have seems to be of the same house shown in your 1880's photo; unfortunately it gives no info about any rebuilding/remodeling of the house at a later date. The link also gives some information about the "Vosburg tract" which was in the same general area as Kinneloa and the Sierra Madre Villa Hotel. I posted some pictures a few months back of some Victorian survivors which must have been part of the tract, located on Vosburg Avenue:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5a888957.jpg
http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...ps597adfac.jpgmy photos

Too bad I couldn't find anything more about Kinneloa itself, but I'm glad it led me to revisiting the neighborhood, since I was amazed to find Victorians I hadn't seen before in my hometown. :D

CityBoyDoug Nov 24, 2014 7:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6818434)
I'm not sure why the video title includes the word "Hollywood" as the majority was filmed in downtown LA, and the final section tracks alongside a railroad - Alison Martino should know better :).

Most of the video appears to be a black and white duplicate of the color film I linked to a couple of weeks ago in post #24381. You can watch that on archive.org.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6ColorFilm.jpg
archive.org

For the black and white version, here are some familiar sights to look out for. Some get two or even three passes. They all appear in the color version as well, but the timings are different. The color version omits the final sequence which was filmed at a different location.

1:27 & 7:19 Coffee Dan's, 8th Street
1:31 & 7:22 RKO Theatre
1:50, 7:53 & 9:19 Comet's (Tower Theatre)
3:34 Clifton's Pacific Seas
4:26 Hotel Bristol/Golden Gopher
11:09 Coffee Dan's, Broadway

It's a little blurry, but now we know what color the Comet's stores were.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LAComets5.jpg
archive.org

The color version is much more interesting to watch. Eleven minutes of 1946 downtown Los Angeles. A reel treat. Hoss posts the link above....thanks.

Handsome Stranger Nov 24, 2014 7:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6818220)
Rosslyn Hotel, Los Angeles (1940s) 1100 Rooms...that's amazing when you think about it. How many rooms are in the Biltmore? -Bonaventure?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/BBsF7j.jpg
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Just thought I'd also take a crack at this one, and remove some of the dust as well.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r.../Rosslyn-3.jpg

I really need to find another online photo host. Picasa has not only forced a resize here, but the image is also quite a bit more red than what I uploaded.:hell:

JScott Nov 24, 2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6818220)
Rosslyn Hotel, Los Angeles (1940s) 1100 Rooms...that's amazing when you think about it. How many rooms are in the Biltmore? -Bonaventure?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/BBsF7j.jpg
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Can you work your 'color magic' on this one HossC? :)
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And my attempt:

http://otters.net/img/lanoir/BBsF7j_mod.jpg

CityBoyDoug Nov 24, 2014 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScott (Post 6818826)
And my attempt:

May I applaud your photo correction.

ethereal_reality Nov 24, 2014 8:40 PM

Thanks Tetsu.
The link you provided had some pretty interesting information.
(If you don't mind, I'm going to post a portion of it for the people who skip links)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/Jh7lP2.jpg
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"Kinney finally found what he was looking for at the top of a mesa,
grown thick with chaparral and with no road leading to it. He pictured
a great white house on the plateau and knew that from the windows
one would be able to see all over the valley and 30 miles distance to
the sea.

Kinney later called the area "the mecca of all my hopes. He purchased
550 acres of land in the spring of 1880, which comprised the mesa on
which to build his house with a sizable sloping field in front of it. The hill
had previously been occupied by a hermit bee-rancher. Two days after
Kinney acquired the property, men were at work clearing the brush, bridging
ravines, and grading for a road on the east side of Eaton Wash. By tunneling
into the base of the mountainside, they transformed an insignificant water source
into a splendid irrigation system Pipes were laid and a 35 foot-deep reservoir
with a 500,000 gallon capacity was constructed, as well as a storage reservoir
with a four million capacity.

DETAILS OF THE HOUSE:

A commodious two-story home was built with four large rooms upstairs and four
downstairs, surmounted by a tower. A wide hall ran through the center of the house,
and a kitchen ran along the back. Downstairs, a library and dining room were situated
on the east side, while on the west were a parlor and large billiard room. Upstairs were
four large bedrooms, but there were no servant quarters in the house. Only Chinese were
employed as servants and laborers, and a long, low wooden building had had been erected
farther up the hill. Kinney called it the 'Chinese Quarter'. The only servant to live in the main
house was Mr. Kinney's black valet."


-all information from:
www.nkrpoa.com


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ethereal_reality Nov 24, 2014 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 6818515)
Looks like it was filmed after 10 when the Acme's were turned off.

:previous: I didn't realize they were turned off at night HG.
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