Metra's 2023-27 capital budget is out. The two big things are a) Metra is still planning to shift towards a regional rail model with frequent service throughout the day. b) Metra is taking over operations of the Union Pacific lines! This has big implications about the need for the A-2 flyover if they can just route the MD lines to Ogilvie and UP-W to Union Station.
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This seems to imply the transfer will be incremental. It will probably start with Metra operating the lines through trackage rights agreements, while UP still owns the tracks, similar to the NCS and Heritage Corridor. This would also mean conductors would be employed by Metra rather than UP. Purchasing of tracks & stations will probably happen later down the line. |
From what I've read, there's no indicated UP wants to give up its responsibilities. It's simply that UP wants Metra to operate the trains themselves, instead of having them use UP employees to run. So basically Metra is budgeting to have their own employees run the trains instead of Union Pacific. UP still owns the tracks, coordinates trains, etc.
https://www.up.com/media/statements/metra/index.htm https://www.trains.com/trn/news-revi...muter-dispute/ |
Let me just say this arrangement where the railroad that owns the tracks actually operates the passenger trains of a public metropolitan commuter rail agency instead of just some sort of access agreement is one of the most bizarre out there.
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UP will never surrender UP-W since it's part of their busiest transcon freight corridor. UP-N and UP-NW are probably available for the right price, probably in the high 9 figures, but Metra isn't interested in buying since that means they take on all the responsibility of maintenance.
As for switching Metra terminals to avoid the A-2 project, you can't run all the MD lines into Ogilvie, there's not enough room. You could maybe run MD-N into Ogilvie and UP-W out of Union since they have similar service volumes (31 vs 29 daily round trips respectively) but MD-W and NCS have to stay at Union. They might also need to restore the 4th track between Union and Pacific Jct (most bridges still in place). |
Groundbreaking for 75th St Corridor
https://www.illinois.gov/news/press-release.25609.html They have the money and a contractor selected, so work should begin in the next few weeks. Some advance work is already visible on Google Maps from a few months ago, so they already have a head start. Note this is only the Forest Hill Flyover (aka P3 + GS19) that will elevate CSX tracks over the Belt Railway and Metra/NS tracks, and over 71st St. This should reduce Metra delays on the Southwest Service, though. A future phase (P2/EW2) will build a 2nd flyover to link Southwest Service to the Rock Island tracks and bring SWS into LaSalle St Station instead of Union. That part is not funded yet. Not shown on the map but they are also raising the existing Rock Island flyover at 79th St so they can run double stacks under it... once this is done, Metra will build the new Auburn Park station on the flyover. https://i.ibb.co/GCsT99Q/Screenshot-...-26-110058.png |
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/10...uthern-ashburn $380 million flyover project expected to ease rail congestion Planners hope a new rail bridge will resolve one of the largest chokepoints for passenger and freight rail traffic in the nation. By Manny Ramos Oct 25, 2022, 5:06pm CDT A $380 million railroad project on the South Side is expected to eliminate one of the most congested rail chokepoints in the Chicago area. “Make no mistake, Chicago is a transportation and economic epicenter for all of North America,” Mayor Lori Lightfoot said at the CSX Forest Hill Yard, 7545 S. Western Ave., where the ceremonial groundbreaking for the project was held Tuesday. “It is a critical part of who we are and has been from our very beginning and it continues to be important today.” More than a dozen local and federal leaders gathered at the rail yard in Chicago’s Ashburn neighborhood to celebrate what’s officially known as the Forest Hill Flyover. Construction on the new rail bridge at 75th Street is expected to start this month. When complete, officials said, freight traffic will move more smoothly as the flyover reduces areas where tracks used by the Belt Railway Company, CSX and Norfolk Southern cross each other. Currently, Lightfoot said, 30 Metra trains cross paths with 90 freight trains every day in that area. ... The flyover will also help connect Metra’s Southwest Service with the existing Rock Island District tracks — increasing capacity while also improving reliability. Conflicts between 30 Southwest Service Metra trains and 35 freight trains operating on the Western Avenue corridor would be removed. Metra trains cross freight tracks at multiple locations, including the Forest Hill Junction, and during peak commuter periods only Metra trains are allowed to run in these areas. This can cause both freight trains and Metra trains to sit idle for lengthy delays. The project also includes eliminating a street-level rail crossing on 71st Street and improving safety and convenience for pedestrians, bicyclists and drivers. These projects are the first two parts of four major projects being developed as part of the 75th Street Corridor Improvement Project. It’s the largest project to date from the Chicago Region Environment and Transportation Efficiency Program. That program, also known as CREATE, is a public-private partnership that works to improve how passengers and goods travel by rail. It is supported by transportation departments at the federal, state, county and city level. ... Garcia said Chicago has the busiest freight rail hub in the country, with nearly 500 freight trains and 750 passenger trains moving through the city every day. He said the project will eliminate 8,500 annual hours of passenger delays. ... |
My question is this, how much do the rail companies pay for these projects? We should tie fixing these issues that cost us 100s of millions of dollars and improve THEIR business to them giving up or at discount unused rail....like for example Carrol St. That will NEVER function for the rail lines again.
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source: FHWA As for unused rail lines: the City of Chicago doesn't want to take them over until they have a use for them. It's a matter of liability: you don't want someone suing the city because a chunk of concrete fell on their head, or because they tripped on an old rail in the street, or because criminal activity is occurring on the rail line. The city has unofficial agreements with the freight RRs for Carroll Ave/North Branch, the Paseo corridor in Pilsen/Little Village, the Kenwood Line, etc. Whenever the city wants to move, the freight RRs are happy to hand over these lines. A few years ago the city was forced to take over the rail line running thru Lincoln Yards and Goose Island; the freight RR parked tanker cars in the middle of the street to pressure the city into taking action. |
I noticed workers working on repairing the exposed/eroded portions of the Brown Line flyover today during a midday errand. Good to see they are working on a solution.
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The giant gantry crane monster that's assembling the red line is totally insane.
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Some early Christmas gifts from CTA:
CTA starting work (finally) on rehabbing the Congress branch: https://www.transitchicago.com/cta-a...egoryId=2&pg=2 $105M to rebuild the tracks between UIC-Halsted and Medical District, plus an upgrade project to the Racine station including an elevator for accessibility. i'm glad they're finally starting, but it's annoying they are piecemealing this instead of just knocking it out like CTA did for the Dan Ryan branch 10 years ago. CTA gets $118M for accessibility improvements: https://www.chicagobusiness.com/poli...pete-buttigieg Unfortunately because of our batshit construction costs, the money won't go very far - possibly only 2 stations, Belmont and Irving Park on the Blue Line. The article references Pulaski, but I can't tell if they are referring to the Pulaski entrance at Irving Park, or the Pulaski station on the Congress branch. CTA's official press release does claim it is "three stations", fwiw, but that's still an average of $40M per station. (A brand new station only costs $80M at Damen Green Line.) Both Irving Park and Belmont saw major work recently, now they have to go back and rip up those stations again to add elevators. Just insane the way they do things. Chicago Ave bus lanes now permanent https://chi.streetsblog.org/2022/12/09/bus-lanes/ During Covid, CDOT painted some janky "bus lanes" on Chicago Ave from Ashland to Western. The signage was poor, no red paint was used, and the restrictions were rush hour only. Drivers totally ignored them. Now the city has finally added the red paint along the full mile from Ashland to Western and made the bus lane 24/7 instead of rush hour only. I'm sure drivers will still cheat, but now it will just be the assholes instead of just normal drivers that are confused. |
How the hell is the CTA spending $40 million at each station for an elevator? For its elevated MED stations, Metra is spending $11 million at each station to renovate and install elevators:
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Belmont is the only one that barely makes sense, since it is underground. Irving Park and Pulaski though are in the middle of an expressway, no way it should cost this much.
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Pulaski was built with two exits, but closed its 2nd exit (to Keeler) long ago. My guess is that the Pulaski project will rebuild the Pulaski stationhouse similar to the Ogden stationhouse at IMD (before/after). That project cost $23M. Currently the Pulaski stationhouse has a long ramp, it will be altered to a stair/elevator combo. Presumably the Keeler entrance will be reopened too, both to provide temporary access during station construction and to provide a 2nd fire exit after completion. No idea if the Keeler exit will be an auxiliary entrance, or just a fire exit only. Irving Park has a whopping four exits designed to facilitate easy bus transfers. If all four exits need elevators, that could get very difficult, especially considering how narrow the platform is. Belmont was only built with one exit, but they may be planning to add an emergency exit at the south end of the platform near Kimball/Barry. CTA is already building a new substation in this area to provide more juice to Blue Line trains. Quote:
Also, the Blue Line can't be shut down for a big modernization like the Green Line had - it's too important to the city's economy. You could maybe do a big reconstruction on the Congress branch, but the Feds have not dumping cash like they used to. So CTA has apparently decided to piecemeal the modernization of both ends of the Blue Line. |
With the Red/Purple Modernization underway and the Red Extension funded, is there any indication of the CTA’s next big priority? By “big” I mean more than a few new stations or renovations.
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Phase 1 of the Forest Park branch reconstruction is about to begin, and CTA received an ASAP grant for the Pulaski station and is seeking a MEGA grant for Cicero and Austin. I wouldn't be surprised if they are attempting to piecemeal the funds together to get the rest of the line redone.
The other major project is the future phases of the Red Purple Modernization. I don't think any would begin construction before 2025, but there's still a lot to figure out on those. I'd rank the difficulty from easiest to hardest as: 1. Purple Line - many of the bridges in south Evanston have already been reconstructed, but six stations will need significant work to handle 8 car trains and add ADA compliant features. 2. Red from Bryn Mawr to Howard - largely similar to the segment under construction to the south, with the addition of a Red-Purple transfer station at Loyola. 3. Red from Addison to Wilson - This project is going to require some significant real estate takings to modernize and a lot of money. The ASAP program has the most committal from the CTA, which is adding ADA compliancy and elevators to every station. The most challenging of these include the rebuilding of three more stations on the Loop (State/Lake is next), the Damen Blue Line, most Blue Line subway stations, and a few Red Line subway stations. I think it might be a good idea for the CTA to combine other work on the subways with the accessibility projects. The subways are really aged at this point and it would be better to knock a lot of work out at once. I wish CTA would reconsider at least some of the Circle Line projects. The West Loop, IMD, and Lincoln Yards are some of the/going to be some of the most major job centers outside of downtown, there really needs to be some holistic transportation solutions being considered. Right now all that seems to be happening in those areas is relatively minor street reconfigurations. Additionally, it would be nice to see more Metra improvements. They've done some good work recently to increase service to 30-60 min frequencies off peak on a few lines. It would be good to see that improved further. Many of the undeveloped "megaproject" sites in the central area are adjacent to Metra and there's a lot of opportunity to build on that. Metra has plans for the West Loop and Lincoln Yards stations, but the 78, Michael Reese Hospital and casino sites would be good places to consider new stops. The O'Hare express is a good idea also, and it would be great to try to tie in Amtrak to that station for airport connections to the Illinois and Michigan services at a minimum. |
CTA pursues whatever projects the mayor tells them to. The only thing CTA staff advocate for is State of Good Repair (SOGR) work, because without it the trains will eventually grind to a halt.
The reason the original Circle Line died is because it was Frank Kruesi's pet project, which he pushed without strong support from Mayor Daley or other politicians. When Kruesi was fired and Daley put Huberman in the job, all the planning stopped. I don't see CTA pursuing anything beyond the first half of TCMetro's list above. The next mayor may put more emphasis on bus lanes, which would be a CDOT and not a CTA project. Or they might decide to pull some weird transit idea out of left field and waste their 4 years studying that. |
This isn't really targeted at Chicago specifically, but I wonder how the next few years of depressed ridership combined with funding shortfalls once federal covid money runs out will play out and if transit agencies rethink some of their pre-pandemic planning visions.
It would be too soon to say that now, but in 3 years if Metra ridership was only a quarter of what it used to be 5 years before in January 2020 and stable at that level and revenue is down, like would still want to pursue buying Alstom bilevels and expand stations or build overpasses? It might be the right approach ends up being the CTA not building the red line extension, and re-designing station rebuilds to have shorter platforms to reduce costs, running shorter trains, etc. Metra might want to reject the sunk cost fallacy and buy Stadler DMU's or something for their more urban lines and close most of the stations on the more suburban lines to turn them into something between regional and intercity rail like the Atlantic City Line or Montauk Line or Rail Runner. I know that all sounds horrible but what are they going to do if there's a crisis because office workers stay home permanently, a recession decreases local funding availability, and the feds are under a GOP regime and won't offer aid? |
I believe Chicago rail and bus ridership was experiencing slight declines before the pandemic. Both Metra and CTA had practical solutions with unraveling congestion at junctions, infill stations and balancing service to improve ridership experience and hopefully increase revenues from fare. All these strategies remain good plans, with the exception of the red line, which I still remain skeptical about.
It’s difficult to predict what’s next. The good news is increases in ridership over the last few months has exceeded forecasts last I checked reports, but we’re still at like half of what it was in 2019. Immediate solutions would be to improve security and reduce fare evasion. Most people I know who have given up on the CTA and now choose to drive and pay for parking said they were sick of dealing with filthy trains and bad behavior like loud music and smoking. People will tolerate a bad commute infrequently but once it becomes chronic, people will stop altogether. |
The suburban sales tax that actually pays for Metra remains in place, even if fares collected on trains stay depressed. For that reason, Metra is not going to be looking to close any suburban stops, pissing off the locals. It's actually the stops within city limits—where Metra gets no tax revenue—that are merely done for the sake of public relations.
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With the SSL station at South Bend Airport moving to the west side of the airport, are they planning on running new tracks? Or will the SSL trains still take the slow way around the eastern end of the airport and down Bendix Blvd to the mainline?
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I personally find the river and Congress and Michigan Ave a more intuitive boundary when colloquially talking about the loop than the elevated tracks. Counting those narrow boundary areas surrounding the tracks separately seems like it might be slicing things too thin when trying to measure walkable density, given that they are only a block wide in places. But it would definitely be very useful to cut Grant Park and the lake out of density statistics. |
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There are so many giant strip malls facing the river, no way those will survive more than 5 years. Both Elston and Clybourn do need to be updated with either subway lines or a tram line / BRT. How these type of interventions have not been planned is beyond me. Total lack of leadership or interest in public works that benefit the actual residents of this city. What is sad is the lack of planning for the river. Recently the city completed the Webster bridge for the LY site and they didn’t even bother to add an underpass or pathways for bikes or pedestrians. The LY site is being build as an island with no connectivity to the urban fabric. |
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The city doesn't even need to spend money to build a new subway line when the UP-N/NW lines are right along the river. They just need to have Metra start acting like a rapid transit service by running trains at least every 15 mins, reopen closed the stations, and integrate transfers with CTA services. This is literally how the regional rail system works in London, Paris, Tokyo, etc.
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Metra's alignment and station locations aren't great either... Clybourn can only serve a small slice of the North Branch/half of Lincoln Yards, and there's never been a station between Clybourn and Ogilvie to reopen. Further north on UP-NW, there is maybe one station that should be reopened at Maplewood (aka Diversey). All the others are too close to Blue Line stops. On UP-N, you could do 2 infill stops at Irving Park or Addison, and Diversey or Fullerton. But none of those infill stations would actually serve the North Branch area in question. |
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In any case, proper planning should be done for this corridor as it's going to become a hot area pretty quickly. |
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Apart from higher capacity and a better ride quality, the main difference in my mind is that a streetcar system would require a maintenance building and yard near the North Branch corridor, so CTA would need to buy a decent size chunk of land. They can get creative, though - Portland put their streetcar shop under an expressway, so basically free land that's not competing with private development. Chicago has a similar area under the Kennedy by the end of the 606, but if IDOT won't cooperate there are plenty of other open sites. They would also need maybe 2 or 3 electric substations on smaller sites for the overhead power. The downside is that the North Branch corridor is mostly old rail ROW or side streets, but if they want to extend the system beyond the North Branch (I think extensions to Fullerton Red/Purple, and Western Blue are warranted) there is limited space on arterial streets and there will be a big temptation to run them as mixed-traffic instead of dedicated lanes. This would be slow and vulnerable to disruption. |
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It is likely that they plan to rip up the tracks connecting from the airport to Bendix Rd; whether they would even keep the tracks along Bendix in place at all is probably an open question as well. It doesn't seem like there are any active freight customers along this route anymore. Seems a shame. https://cdn.greatnews.life/wp-conten...134256.860.jpg |
Mr. Chicago here,
WHAT? Transportation in the NW corridor should not be this much of an issue. There is a terrific river -- use it. Start taking bids on river taxi service which, by the way is very popular in NYC, Furthermore take bids on a monorail system along the river which can provide direct service building to building. Take bids even from Musk if you must, Chicago can use the taxes from private enterprise. Let these new systems start way up the river where I and a million others can park and take what is offered.( I still mourn for the garage on St Clair) I said this some time ago, Chicago can make the list of Venice, Amsterdam and Saint Petersburgh for its urban river culture. If done correctly, the new features in the city can be better than a supertall. |
^Some trains would originate from the airport and some would originate from a downtown station. Same for termination. The tracks don't need to "run through" the airport to the current east side tracks to provide this service. The municipal leadership of SB is in agreement that a downtown station is desired.
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No mention of a monorail on SSP should ever go without a reference to the best example of a monorail in human history...
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Better not to have a branch. The trains run very infrequently as it is. If they are going to relocate the station, at least do it right and align it so you can go through.
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Mr. Chicago here,
I do not quite get it , but be that as it may. Monorails work in cities as diverse as Detroit and Miami. Am I to understand monorails are impossible in Chicago? Furthermore on the topic of transportation in the area, between bicycles and cars, consider staggered commute hours or half -hours. Assign a street for bicycles only for an half-hour morning and evenings. |
^The only alternative would be to build the west side airport connector but run a precision timed shuttle to the main with a new transfer platform. But then obvious (and fair) questions arise about whether a nice shuttle bus could fulfill the same need and forego an airport terminal SSL station altogether in exchange for a very nice downown extension and station initiative. If SSL freight handling to Chicago was to be proven lucrative, a west side alignment could be back in contention as you would be investing in the rail connection anyway. There's zero advantage to building a west side connection and then through routing across airport property and running SB bound over the very east side route back to the main that takes too long.
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Is there any good reason that the station is at the airport? All the flights seem to be regional jets to big 3 hubs or Allegiant vacation oriented destinations. I can't imagine many of the South Shore passengers are interfacing with the airport in any other way.
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1. Because monorails are barely built anymore, cost to built and maintain is super expensive.
2. Monorails have no way of utilizing existing 2 track lines. Or the other way around. Existing 2 track cars cant utilize new monorail lines. You don't have this limitation with all the other options. 3. Track changeovers are super slow and complicated with the mono track, leading to layouts avoiding them as much as possible. This limits the flexibility of the layout to simple lines and loops. |
Loving all the responses and clearly the city should have already had a plan for Clybourn, Elston but they have ZERO plans or studies. How do we get something going so that we can hold officials accountable?
Under Rahm there was much talk about a new train line to connect Ohare to downtown faster. Perhaps a new line should have the following stops: - Wolf Point / Fulton Market - Casino - Goose Island - North Ave and Elston - LY connecting to Clybourn Metra - Ashland and Fullerton - Western and Belmont - Avondale - Express to Ohare |
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