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ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2018 1:31 PM

lol. I like the way you think Noir Noir.

That Scattering fellow didn't do very well at all. :(

Ed Workman Jul 10, 2018 2:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8246456)
Anybody posted pics of the old railroad up Echo Mountain and Mt. Lowe? Tied right into the Pacific Electric. It was quite the tourist attraction until the 1930s depression. Wish we still had that, along with the Richfield tower..

THe incline from Rubio Canyon up to Echo Mtn was a favorite place to take/sell souvenir photos, so a look into the LAPL or USC digital phots will reward you.
THe incline was spectacular, but the 42" gage electric line up to the Tavern was no less so, particularly the Great Circular bridge. That part was traversed by totally open 4 wheel cars so one could enjoy the abyss easily. Those were later replaced by 8 wheel cars that had curtains on the outer side for basic weather protection. If you REEEAAALLLLLY are a fan of Mt Lowe, find a copy of the book by Charles Seims- lots of pix, most made by Pierce, a professional photographer
And it wasn't the depression that killed it, it was fire in the Inn/Tavern ca 1936. In 1937 the whole thing was ripped out, and the Forest Service dynamited the Echo Mtn power house in the 60s- BASTIDS.
Oh google Mt Lowe and one of the returns should be 'Friends of Mt Lowe", plus others

Ed Workman Jul 10, 2018 2:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8245197)
I returned to LA from Santa Fe, NM this afternoon on the 5+ hour late Southwest Chief train. Since the 6th Street bridge was recently discussed here, I thought I'd try to take some pictures of the other bridges over the LA river more or less visible from the train. This wasn't easy, as the train was moving pretty fast, and I'm not a very good photographer :shrug:


and lastly, the Cesar E Chavez bridge:
https://i.imgur.com/Zz0Mdn6.jpg

You can see they've done a *massive* graffiti-overpainting project since I took this trip a year ago.

Thanks for the update
There is a set of drawings of the river bridges at Library of Congress in the HAER section.
Several years ago, LA City had a hard to dig out site named Vault that contained horrid microfilm views of blueprints- white lines on blue backgrounds for most of the older ones. But those included the construction drawings of some of the river bridge.
LA 'saved' the drawings by microfilming, then I presume trashing the originals. Where did I put my BASTIDS stamp?
One of the better sets I excavated were the plans of the Los Angeles Municipal Railway.
There were two; the one to which I refer ran on San Pedro St from Aliso to 9th, was built by the PE for LA, which leased it to PE and as part of it was dual gage I presume LARy paid too

Andys Jul 10, 2018 2:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 8246564)
THe incline from Rubio Canyon up to Echo Mtn was a favorite place to take/sell souvenir photos, so a look into the LAPL or USC digital phots will reward you.
THe incline was spectacular, but the 42" gage electric line up to the Tavern was no less so, particularly the Great Circular bridge. That part was traversed by totally open 4 wheel cars so one could enjoy the abyss easily. Those were later replaced by 8 wheel cars that had curtains on the outer side for basic weather protection. If you REEEAAALLLLLY are a fan of Mt Lowe, find a copy of the book by Charles Seims- lots of pix, most made by Pierce, a professional photographer
And it wasn't the depression that killed it, it was fire in the Inn/Tavern ca 1936. In 1937 the whole thing was ripped out, and the Forest Service dynamited the Echo Mtn power house in the 60s- BASTIDS.
Oh google Mt Lowe and one of the returns should be 'Friends of Mt Lowe", plus others

And, check YouTube for some interesting historical film footage. Yeah, interesting area. Hiked it a few times.
Andys

GaylordWilshire Jul 10, 2018 3:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 8246579)
Thanks for the update
There is a set of drawings of the river bridges at Library of Congress in the HAER section.
Several years ago, LA City had a hard to dig out site named Vault that contained horrid microfilm views of blueprints- white lines on blue backgrounds for most of the older ones. But those included the construction drawings of some of the river bridge.
LA 'saved' the drawings by microfilming, then I presume trashing the originals. Where did I put my BASTIDS stamp?
One of the better sets I excavated were the plans of the Los Angeles Municipal Railway.
There were two; the one to which I refer ran on San Pedro St from Aliso to 9th, was built by the PE for LA, which leased it to PE and as part of it was dual gage I presume LARy paid too


A NLA post from 2013 worth another look: 14223

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...eet/00001v.jpg

Martin Pal Jul 10, 2018 6:08 PM

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Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 8246362)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 8246252)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Lw...vmbnrj=s488-no
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I saw him once in Montecito in the late '70s. He had a ranch there. He was wearing a beard at the time and it took me a few seconds to recognize him. A striking man even in his later years.
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Surveying the Hollywood Walk of Fame August 9, 2016 with Terry Moore and Don Murray.

https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/f...6_v2_embed.jpgHollywood Reporter

I have to laugh! So many tourists come to Hollywood and probably hope to see famous stars and not one of the tourists
in the above photo are even looking in their direction!


https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/f...4_v2_embed.jpgHollywood Reporter

The Pantages Theatre in the background, between the young man with a guitar and Tab Hunter.

There's a video and interview with the three included at the link.

I, too, got to see and meet Tab Hunter at a VSDA (Video Software Dealers Association) trade show convention around twenty years ago.
I have a photo of us together somewhere. Some years later I happened to see or hear when his birthday was and I found out that I actually had
met him on his birthday, though I didn't know it at the time! His birthday is July 11th. :(

Just recently there was an announcement about a movie in the works about him and his relationship with Anthony Perkins, to be titled "Tab & Tony."

CityBoyDoug Jul 10, 2018 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8246886)

A look at his star says he's a music recording artist? Oh.

AlvaroLegido Jul 10, 2018 7:53 PM

Sears Building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8245197)
First picture was taken on the rail flyover, looking up the river north, with the East Washington bridge in the foreground and a railroad bridge just beyond it:
https://i.imgur.com/Skjcvze.jpg

Surrounded by nothing, the Sears Building always look terribly impressive. Great post Lorendoc !

Martin Pal Jul 10, 2018 8:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8246936)
A look at his star says he's a music recording artist? Oh.
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I hadn't noticed that, but you would've thought it would be for films. I wonder who decides the category? You used to be able to have one in different categories, but space considerations limit it to one now. I thought maybe he had more than one so I looked it up. He does have "one" star. He was proud of his music career success with several albums and the #1 Billboard hit (6 weeks) "Young Love." And I love the musical "Damn Yankees."

You can see him sing "Young Love" here on the Perry Como show. It was the first time he ever sang solo in public! His nervousness is, well, downright adorable.

Video Link


His star is located at 6320 Hollywood Blvd. on the south side, in between August Lumiere and Anjelica Huston, between Ivar and Vine Street.

odinthor Jul 10, 2018 9:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8247066)
I hadn't noticed that, but you would've thought it would be for films. I wonder who decides the category? You used to be able to have one in different categories, but space considerations limit it to one now. I thought maybe he had more than one so I looked it up. He does have "one" star. He was proud of his music career success with several albums and the #1 Billboard hit (6 weeks) "Young Love." And I love the musical "Damn Yankees."

You can see him sing "Young Love" here on the Perry Como show. It was the first time he ever sang solo in public! His nervousness is, well, downright adorable.

Video Link

[...]

Thanks! Yep, adorable. And some of the back-up singers think so too: Watch them--they're smiling in friendly empathy. That's kind of beautiful.

ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2018 11:03 PM

'mystery' location

"Los Angeles California Architecture l Vintage photo 1950 Amadee Apartment"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/f7b8qn.jpg
ETSY

The seller apparently got the name off the sign above the entryway. [enlarged below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/eduYeo.jpg
detail

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ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2018 11:57 PM

'mystery' location II

"1940s Negative...Street Scene, Virginia Bowling, Long Beach California" [address unkown]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/uJwONp.jpg
found on EBAY No longer listed



A print of the neg.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/O7e3EG.jpg

Does anyone know where this was located?




I thought perhaps the bowling alley utilized part of the property where the Hotel Virginia once stood. [the hotel was torn down in 1933]

Below: You can see, especially on the right, how the Hotel Virginia property had two different elevations. [and the bowling alley appears to be subterranean]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/uIFHQw.jpg
Reddit

Hence the name...Virginia Bowling. (why else would you name a bowling alley Virginia) :shrug:

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ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2018 1:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8244861)

LOS ANGELES TIMES DEC. 4, 1891 / reminiscing about 1882
https://s26.postimg.cc/edmbuglux/12-4-1891.jpg
LA Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library
:tumbleweed:

I searched the internet trying to find another instance of chickens eating Gold and dying. (nope, not one)

just as I was about to give up I came across this intriguing headline.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/G0LIas.jpg

I thought: Chickens must have pecked their way through some gun powder and exploded!!! [not Gold, but close]


Alas it was nothing of the sort.

The article was about a big chicken statue (named Betty, by the way) that some hoodlums decided to blow up as a prank.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/bvFwsS.jpg
SANTAROSAHISTORY

After the explosion parts of Betty were found all over Petaluma.

READ MORE ABOUT BETTY'S LIFE [AND DEMISE] HERE









Who names a chicken Betty? :shrug:

tovangar2 Jul 11, 2018 1:10 AM

ICYMI, after 35 years, Darrell Kunitomi gives one of the last of his tours of Gordon Kaufmann's 1935 LAT building at 1st & Spring before the paper's move to El Segundo. LA Taco reporting.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vW...p=w795-h448-no
la taco

odinthor Jul 11, 2018 1:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8247349)
'mystery' location II

"1940s Negative...Street Scene, Virginia Bowling, Long Beach California" [address unkown]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/uJwONp.jpg
found on EBAY No longer listed



A print of the neg.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/O7e3EG.jpg

Does anyone know where this was located?




I thought perhaps the bowling alley utilized part of the property where the Hotel Virginia once stood. [the hotel was torn down in 1933]

Below: You can see, especially on the right, how the Hotel Virginia property had two different elevations. [and the bowling alley appears to be subterranean]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/uIFHQw.jpg
Reddit

Hence the name...Virginia Bowling. (why else would you name a bowling alley Virginia) :shrug:

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Happy to oblige, e_r!

April 24, 1952, Long Beach Press Telegram: "NEED experienced fountain and counter girl. Top wages. Call between 2 and 3 p. m. Virginia Bowling Alley. 25 Chestnut."

That would be in the Pike area . . . in the Hotel Virginia area . . . Good thinking! :tup:

The scene just feels so . . . so . . . so Long Beach.

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2018 3:03 AM

:previous: Thanks odinthor!

I just looked up 25 Chestnut. It's quite difficult to tell where, exactly, the Pike was located. (what with all the added land and what-not)
Could anyone outline where the pike used to be on a modern google-aerial?

tovangar2 Jul 11, 2018 4:07 AM

Virginia Bowling
 
:previous:

Not actually answering your question, but this is South Chestnut Place at Ocean (thank you odinthor!):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/li...=w1141-h620-no
gsv

The lay of the land hasn't been totally obliterated compared to the earlier view. The Virginia would have been on the left in the view above (that's the Sovereign on the right, condos since it was built in 1923). The 2014 Press-Telegram article at this link says one could (at least in 2014) still see a bit of the Virginia Hotel's foundation at Ocean and Chestnut.

I'm not sure what I'm looking for/at, but that concrete stair rail looks the same/similar to the one in the Virginia Bowling photo:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rW...=w1366-h628-no
gsv

Better shot of the railing (note the Virginia Hotel photos mounted on the wall. Nice.) This has gotta be what the P-T was referring to:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/I7...=w1366-h631-no
gsv

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8247349)







ETA:

There's a website on the Pike here, including info on today's reconstituted Pike (although it looks not to have been updated since 2005).

Flyingwedge Jul 11, 2018 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8247349)
'mystery' location II

"1940s Negative...Street Scene, Virginia Bowling, Long Beach California" [address unkown]


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/O7e3EG.jpg

Does anyone know where this was located?


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The February 1949 Sanborn Map shows the bowling alley's marquee next to the red dot:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7qhviiok.jpg

ProQuest via LAPL

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2018 1:05 PM

:previous: hmmm...so what was on TOP of the Virginia Bowling Alley. (the roof appears to be at the same level as the higher elevation)
Was it just an expanse of concrete.....parking perhaps?


Thanks so much for clarifying the location of the Virginia Bowling Alley tovangar2 & Flyingwedge. I really really appreciate it!
and of course thanks to odinthor as well :) for pinpointing the location.

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2018 1:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge


Just for fun, here's a quick look at the Blackstone Hotel that figures so prominently on the right side of FW's Sanborn map.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/9qVrKu.jpg
the cougar countess

:previous: The Cougar Countess?? :shrug:...who dat? -read more about Countess Kate Nixon d'Aleria HERE

And what did the Blackstone look like inside?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/rP5JRP.jpg
Cauldine Burnett at historiclongbeach




Let's add some color

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/bQJucY.jpg
amazon





And as most of you already know, the Blackstone still stands today!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/of2LO9.jpg
check it out HERE


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