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Scott Charles Feb 27, 2018 1:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8100587)
Scott, the dome building is a memorial to the Hollenbeck's son. Here are Elizabeth and John with their handsome son shortly before John Jr. died. [ca.1856]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/1EvRfj.jpg
boyleheightshistory

What a horrible story:

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Mail between the US and Central America was poor, and it was not until the Hollenbecks arrived in New York on their way to see their son that they learned the news of his death.
She did make a lovely tribute to their son, though. I’m glad it’s still standing.

odinthor Feb 27, 2018 7:30 PM

I'm sure that many books and learned papers have been written on the subject of African Americans in earlier L.A.; but perhaps I can toss in a few footnotes on home locations from my notes about pre-metropolis L.A. (which are derived from chance references in newspapers of the time, the earliest city directory, and so on):

I have the following scantling data on home locations of some early Black Angelenos:

1857, Daniel F. Jefferson, November 28, 1857, published (Los Angeles Star): on Delinquent Tax List, property involved described as “lot on Spring street, 35 x 160 on the E of the Round House; house on the same”; November 24, 1860, published (Los Angeles Star): on Delinquent Tax list, location/property described as “city; lot and impts on Spring st, [bordered on the] N [by] Geo Walters, S by J Mascarel and W by Lehman.”

1860, Peter Biggs, “lot and house southwest corner of Spring street, being lot 6 block 3”; I have a nice handful of locations for his workplaces over the years, but this seems to be his home.

1860s?, Robert Owens, residence on San Pedro St., Livery Stables on San Pedro St.

1870s-1883, Winnie Owens on San Pedro St.

1872, Andrew Chisum and family at 121 Main St.

1872, Lewis D. Green, between Flower and 8th.

1872, Samuel Jones, 78 Main St.

1872, Biddy Mason, “1st St. below Main”; “later,” 331 S. Main St.

Jumping ahead a few decades, it seems that the African-American community had coalesced in an area adjacent to but south of the Little Tokyo area. Churches serving a particular community can be good indicators of the location of neighborhoods in which their community resides:

8th and San Julian (before which 6th and Maple)--

https://s26.postimg.org/d2ghwv6qh/BlaChu1.jpg
L.A. Times, via ProQuest, via CSULB Library.

950 1/2 Hemlock--

https://s26.postimg.org/u2ze5jrhl/BlaChu2.jpg
L.A. Times, via ProQuest, via CSULB Library.

edit add: This, a detail of the corner of 6th and Maple, must show, at center, the “original Wesley Chapel […,] a frame structure 40x60” referred to in the 1906 article as at that corner.

https://s26.postimg.org/rwrrp9t4p/6thMapl.jpg
1909 bird's eye map of L.A., Library of Congress Panoramic Map collection.

Martin Pal Feb 27, 2018 9:51 PM

Part of a recent post I made:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8083243)

FEBRUARY 24th: Earl Carroll Theatre Tour!

For the first time the LAHTF (Los Angeles Historic Theatre Foundation) will present their "ALL ABOUT" - behind-the-scenes tour of the Earl Carroll Theatre in Hollywood.
"Join us as we explore this legendary theatre with the doors open to the public for the first time in over three decades. We don't want to give too much away quite yet,
but this is one you do not want to miss!"

http://www.lahtf.org/event/all-about...rroll-theatre/
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I AM DEFINITELY GOING!
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I did go on this tour last Saturday morning! The LAHTF said it was the first time there had ever been a tour of this facility!

There was a line down the block to get in and it was nice to see so many people interested in things like this! (I was with a couple members so we got preferential treatment.) The Sunset Blvd. entrance is blocked off now because of the construction, so we entered through the back of the building which is on a short and narrow street called Leland Way. The sidewalk on the north side is in rough, cracked and bumpy condition and there were several homeless people sleeping along the uneven pavement. The other side of the street, however, is beautiful. There are an impressive row of bungalows nestled in a couple dense rows of poplars and pine trees.

(I took the Googlemobile along Leland Way down El Centro and then turned down De Longpre trying to find the name of this complex. There were so many trees I couldn't read the name on what looked like the main building. But looking up some street addresses I found that this complex is called The Hollywood El Centro and Yelp says it was established in 1974.)

The tour of the Earl Carroll Theatre first encompassed a gathering in the old nightclub and theatre area space. We were introduced to an Earl Carroll showgirl who is, or about to be, 90 years old and she started working at the original club when she was 17. Her name is Shirley Claire. She has a website dedicated to the club and if you Google her name you'll find a whole lot of things about her.

The tour was divided into three parts...the stage area, backstage areas (including underneath the revolving stage) and the lobby/entrance/office areas.

The entrance and lobby areas were the best part because the 1938 art deco designs and motifs have largely remained intact and the same color scheme through each successive tenants of the building after Earl Carroll.

Originally, you would enter the club from Sunset Blvd. You'd be faced with a hat/coat check area(*) to the left and in the center a circular area where I guess you'd wait ask to be seated. It was a supper club, so you weren't actually buying tickets to a show and would probably pay when you were through somehow.

Then you'd walk up the staircase and pass the statue called "The Goddess of Neon" (I tickled her toes) into the lobby area where there was a bar, lounge, phone booth, a staircase leading up to the restrooms, and you were surrounded by columns of light. And once you were up in that area you were actually in the nightclub and could see the stage show going on. There was no walled entrance where you passed through doors to get into the club. Once you were up the stairs, you were inside.

At some point, there was a wall, with door entrances, installed in the place to separate the stage area from the lobby and it was all designed in the same way as the lobby. It does look great. The tour guide said that they don't know exactly when this "renovation" was done because they do not find any building permits for the property for the construction of it. (Any of you that know how to look up these building permits might want to sleuth this out and maybe you could find out something!)

They did not offer any idea as to when this wall was built, but, for reasons I'll explain a bit further on, it might've been 1985 or later. (See the segment on the Moonlighting youtube video in the next post.) A friend of mine posits it may have been built when Fox used it for Chevy Chase's talk show which began in 1993, but only lasted a month or two.

The famous double (inner and outer) turntables of the nightclub are still in existence and still work, but they have been covered by another stage layer. The Heritage Foundation, however, taped out where the turntables and stage areas precisely were so we could visualize it. It is said that the last time the turntables were actually used was by Nickelodeon for a production in 1998. (What production that was, wasn't noted.) Part of the tour showed us the mechanism by which the tables turned (by hand cranks!) along the side backstage and also we saw the workings of it from underneath the floor in the basement. Also in the basement were the mechanisms that could lift hosts, announcers, showgirls, or microphones up through the stage floor so they'd suddenly appear right in front of you. The columns that would turn and reveal showgirls playing instruments or such were also shown to us and how they operated.

Foundation members were allowed to go to the second floor offices where the business aspects of the theatre have been performed. There was a nice viewing area of the stage up there where I'm sure Mr. Carroll invited a few guests from time to time. The rooms are all empty at present. Some of the offices have nice art deco shelving and drawer areas.

Because the place has not been a supper club since the early 60's or so, the kitchen areas are no longer kitchens and so that's the one aspect you might be left to wonder how it worked. The place could hold 1,000 guests and looking at photos, you will wonder just how they were all fed and served drinks and accommodated and from exactly where and how many waiters and busboys must've been involved. It was quite the operation. The stage and backstage area must be 2/3 to 3/4 of the building while the other 1/3 or 1/4 was for the audience!

I could show many photos we took while there, but, frankly, I believe if one is interested there are several sites that would give you a thorough look at this place from past to present and also show many of these behind the scenes workings of the nightclub, with pertinent info included. (SEE NEXT POST.)

(*)There are also many photos of the place already posted on NLA, including a newspaper story and up dates about a hat check girl (Beverly Rush) who worked there and claimed she'd been assaulted. I thought of this when I saw the hat check area! See these links:
Photo and newspaper press release:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=38744
Newspaper article:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=38757
An update:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=38763


Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8083243)
The Essex Property Trust project and The Earl Carroll Theatre

Construction begins: November 28, 2017

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tGoifXx1r...-Weiss-171.jpgChuck Weiss

Chuck Weiss writes on his Facebook page: "Sad to see the destruction of the parking lot and portico of the Earl Carroll Theater this week. I know that a developer recently purchased the property [...]. Luckily the theater itself is protected, but I was hoping that the adjacent architecture of the wrap-around marquis would have been protected as well."

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I did want to mention something concerning the portico written about above. You cannot tell from that photo Chuck Weiss took above, but during the tour we could look out of the front entrance and see that about 100 (?) feet of this is still intact and was not destroyed when construction began. You cannot tell this by the photo above.

These following two photos taken this month by Bill Counter show this.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KT_6rt3py...arroll-181.JPG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GhBYGmoM5...arroll-182.JPG

Martin Pal Feb 27, 2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8101588)
I could show many photos we took while there, but, frankly, I believe if one is interested there are several sites that would give you a thorough look at this place from past to present and also show many of these behind the scenes workings of the nightclub, with pertinent info included.

RECOMMENDED:

If one wants to get their fill of the Earl Carroll Theatre, start with this Los Angeles Theatres link:

Earl Carroll Theatre: History and Exterior views
https://losangelestheatres.blogspot....l-theatre.html

This link brings us right up to the present with recent updates. From this link you
can click on the links to other photos and information. The subjects are: the
Lobby / Stage / Stage Basement / Auditorium / and Scene Shop.

The sources for the photos on the site are linked and there are some links
to other photos not shown as well.
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This link is the Hollywood Photographs collection page of 42 photos of Earl Carroll's.
They can be clicked on and enlarged.
https://hollywoodphotographs.com/cat...oll-nightclub/
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If you go to the Los Angeles Public Library photo site and type in "Earl Carroll"
there are over 100 photos there.
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/p...ch_pageADV.jsp
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This is The Historic-Cultural Monument Proposal:
http://planning.lacity.org/StaffRpt/...ater_Final.PDF
It contains a wealth of information on the theatre and its history, including many historic photos and building plans.
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This is a post, from E_R, with an interior snapshot of the theatre that was being sold on eBay. Not dated.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15980
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This is a youtube video recommended to us on the tour. It was posted last October.
"A Day at Earl Carroll's." It gives a little tour and shows a couple scenes from a
movie (A Night at Earl Carroll's) that shows the revolving stage in motion and
that side column of girls playing the pianos! (Wonderful!) The guy in the video
happens to say that it isn't known what color the strand of neon was that the
statue was holding, but the lobby tour guide was emphatic that it was white.
(Did anyone ask Shirley Claire? Surely Shirley would know. ("And stop calling me
Shirley.")

Video Link

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A friend of mine pulled out his dvd of Imitation of Life (1959) and showed me this. The whole movie is on youtube (at present) and if you can put up with the way this is formatted, if you go to 1 hr. 20 mins. and 30 secs. mark, you'll see an approximately 2 minute and 30 second scene where the black mother enters the theatre entrance (we see her enter from the interior). There is a red neon sign that says Moulin Rouge, one word on either side of the Goddess of Neon statue. She walks from the entrance area up the stairs and into the lobby where we see the bar, neon columns, art deco statues etc. (She is looking for her daughter, the character who is passing for being white, who has run off to Hollywood to be a showgirl.) The woman turns and walks down into the nightclub. You can see there is no wall there. She walks down toward the stage and we see her from a distance and all the other patrons in the place. We see some of the showgirls dancing on this revolving stage. Including her daughter. Then we get to see this amazing shot: The camera is actually on the revolving outer turntable as the girls are doing their routine, each seated in a chair and pouring a bottle of champagne into a silver glass in their hands. The camera is at her daughter's place on this stage as it revolves off the stage and the curtain closes. Then we are backstage. It's a fantastic scene for those interested in this theatre.

Nightclub scene in Imitation of Life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRoEtHkxd4I
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Then there is this episode of Moonlighting titled "The Dream Sequence Always Rings Twice."
It is a mostly dream story by the two leads taking place in the past (a fictional nightclub) and
filmed mostly in black & white. It is mostly shot in the Earl Carroll Theatre in 1985. (It seems
to us who were watching it that the new "wall" in question is not there yet.)

Moonlighting
S02 E04 The Dream Sequence Always Rings Twice
Aired: 10/15/85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHGIOEtZAuI

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LA Kitty Kat Feb 27, 2018 11:29 PM

Thank you! Martin Pal,

Incredible amount of information on the Earl Carroll Theatre!!! I have just now realized that I have been in that amazing place--I saw "Hair" there in 1970 when it was the Aquarius. I wish I had known then what I know now about it.

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2018 11:59 PM

:previous: Yep, that's when it was the 'Kaleidoscope' Kitty Kat.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/2UDDeU.jpg
http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/u...chedelic-past/




update: I was wrong. :(

'After the 'Kaleidoscope Club' it became the 'Aquarius Theatre' at 6230 Sunset Boulevard for the production of the Broadway musical "Hair." Steve Hoffman

here's a slightly different view / note it says 'Aquarius' on the marquee (as well the large mural)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/8YVz5F.jpg
Steve Hoffman

Ed Workman Feb 28, 2018 1:06 AM

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Originally Posted by

More in flavor with this thread, my family was shipped to Manzanar from the old (and gorgeous) La Grande Station:

[IMG
https://i.imgur.com/4GX184b.jpg[/IMG]LA Times

Although normal passenger service moved to Union Station in 1939, La Grande station was called into service once more during World War II, as Japanese Americans bound for internment camps departed from the historic depot.

April, 1942 - Japanese American citizens boarding trains to internment camps. Note the familiar gasometers in the background:
https://i.imgur.com/xp5wmQz.jpglapl

This next image clearly shows the First Street Bridge:
https://i.imgur.com/hAgZgZm.jpgLA Times

La Grande was the Santa Fe depot, yet, as Santa Fe didn't go into the Owens Valley, the train[s?] were supplied by Southern Pacific, which could go as far as the depot in Lone Pine. I think some folks were sent to Manzanar by bus, for although gasoline and tires were critical, the Lone Pine depot is a few miles from Manzanar, and transfer by bus- shutttling, was required.

Also very interesting to see the lady on the left waving goodbye. Some Japanese didn't get scooped up, and a few even went to Manzanar to visit.

CityBoyDoug Feb 28, 2018 1:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 8101872)
La Grande was the Santa Fe depot, yet, as Santa Fe didn't go into the Owens Valley, the train[s?] were supplied by Southern Pacific, which could go as far as the depot in Lone Pine. I think some folks were sent to Manzanar by bus, for although gasoline and tires were critical, the Lone Pine depot is a few miles from Manzanar, and transfer by bus- shutttling, was required.

Also very interesting to see the lady on the left waving goodbye. Some Japanese didn't get scooped up, and a few even went to Manzanar to visit.

Some Japanese drove to Manzanar in their own cars which were impounded until they were released from the camp.

There was no real need to detain all those US citizens but people were terrified that Los Angeles might be attacked and invaded by the Japanese Army. Those were indeed strange times.
Many latter day experts say that the US should not have detained the Japanese et al but just kept a close eye on them by a registration and reporting system.

https://ww2db.com/images/battle_japa...ternment33.jpg
https://ww2db.com/images/battle_japa...ternment33.jpg


Scott Charles Feb 28, 2018 1:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 8101872)
I think some folks were sent to Manzanar by bus, for although gasoline and tires were critical, the Lone Pine depot is a few miles from Manzanar, and transfer by bus- shutttling, was required.

You are absolutely correct, Ed - here are some pictures of people who were transported out by bus:

https://i.imgur.com/AOwWI9c.png

A large number of Japanese drove themselves: (EDIT: CityBoyDoug beat me to it!)
https://i.imgur.com/xoYI0vT.jpg
If these people really were a threat, why should they be allowed to drive themselves? And it’s not like those two MPs seem very worried about the situation. (Pictures from same links as in my previous post.)

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Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 8101872)
Also very interesting to see the lady on the left waving goodbye. Some Japanese didn't get scooped up, and a few even went to Manzanar to visit.

If you click on the link, the picture has the following caption:

Quote:

Mar. 23, 1942: Family members say goodbye to single men who volunteered to be the first to go to Manzanar and help build the internment facility.
So sadly, it’s possible that she was scooped up, but was simply waiting for a later train. :(

ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2018 1:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8100665)
Evergreen Cemetery, East Los Angeles, June 20, 2015:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...v.jpg~original
FW Photo

I'm curious as to what used to be at the very top. (you can still see the old metal rod that once held it in place.

I'm guessing a decorative urn. :shrug:

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ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2018 3:53 AM

And if you pull back from the burial plot you see that the Hollenbecks have their name on the step.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/JyrYuG.jpg
wikimedia

ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2018 5:23 AM

I saw this fun pic. on ebay the other day.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/bTHfew.jpg
[must have sold]

This is the first time I've seen NBC Radio City painted on the background of a novelty photo.

I wonder what the building behind the driver's head is suppose to represent. The French Village?

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ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2018 5:55 AM

I JUST SAW THIS ON EBAY.

"1941 Edward H. Bohlin Catalog Saddlemaker and Silversmith (Hollywood, CA) *RARE*

ASKING $299.00
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/XdOuzI.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/0hFXuh.jpg
EBAY

IT'S QUITE THICK!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/asqIQl.jpg

As far as I can tell Edward H. Bohlin has been the subject of one post back in 2013.
The post included a photograph of the Bohlin Shop when it was at Hollywood and Cahuenga...& when it was at 931 Highland.*

But I don't believe we have seen a photograph of the store when it was at 5760 Sunset Blvd. [address below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/e35ahM.jpg
EBAY

*Chuckaluck's post also mentioned an earlier Sunset Boulevard address.
6309 Sunset Blvd. [c.1932]
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I'm not sure if Bohlin had multiple stores or just ONE store that kept moving around.

John Maddox Roberts Feb 28, 2018 6:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8102102)
I saw this fun pic. on ebay the other day.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/bTHfew.jpg
[must have sold]

This is the first time I've seen NBC Radio City painted on the background of a novelty photo.

I wonder what the building behind the driver's head is suppose to represent. The French Village?

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What's with the Civil War era revolver (looks like a Remington) the guy on the left is holding?

Ed Workman Feb 28, 2018 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8101908)
Some Japanese drove to Manzanar in their own cars which were impounded until they were released from the camp.

There was no real need to detain all those US citizens but people were terrified that Los Angeles might be attacked and invaded by the Japanese Army. Those were indeed strange times.
Many latter day experts say that the US should not have detained the Japanese et al but just kept a close eye on them by a registration and reporting system.

https://ww2db.com/images/battle_japa...ternment33.jpg
https://ww2db.com/images/battle_japa...ternment33.jpg


Thanks very much for those pictures
Here's a volume , one of three on the site, about Manzanar [apple orchard/grower in Spanish]

https://archive.org/details/threefarewellsto00burt

And another that has maps, pix etc- maybe some are repetitive, but these are several hundred pages

https://archive.org/details/culturallandscap00manz

There is also another set of volumes by Unlau done for the National Park Service

A web search should turn up Tule Lake , and Poston, AZ where one of my college housemates was born. I presume a Takeno or Ohara that were hischool classmates may have had similar backgrounds, but it never came up.

As for panic, don't forget the Battle of Los Angles, which followed by a day the shelling of Ellwood [just north of Santa Barbara] and the sinking of S.S. Montebello, just out of Avila loaded with oil, off Cambria. That's all San Luis Obispo County. The Montebello , still full of oil, lies there still.
The oil storage tanks that were fed from Santa Maria oil fields were on the bluffs at the north east edge of the bay. If one knows where to look, the excavation for a fake gun emplacement- a log or telephone pole- can be seen just off the left side of NB hiway 101 near the little summit as it is about to turn north to SLObispo

And one last note. Within a week after 12/7 Southern Pacific RR and Santa Fe Ry, both with with long stretches of coastal trackage, started fitting headlights of locomotives with shields so as to avoid detection of the strong light from overhead aircraft

oldstuff Feb 28, 2018 4:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8102124)
I JUST SAW THIS ON EBAY.

"1941 Edward H. Bohlin Catalog Saddlemaker and Silversmith (Hollywood, CA) *RARE*

ASKING $299.00
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/XdOuzI.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/0hFXuh.jpg
EBAY

IT'S QUITE THICK!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/asqIQl.jpg

As far as I can tell Edward H. Bohlin has been the subject of one post back in 2013.
The post included a photograph of the Bohlin Shop when it was at Hollywood and Cahuenga...& when it was at 931 Highland.*

But I don't believe we have seen a photograph of the store when it was at 5760 Sunset Blvd. [address below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/e35ahM.jpg
EBAY

*Chuckaluck's post also mentioned an earlier Sunset Boulevard address.
6309 Sunset Blvd. [c.1932]
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I'm not sure if Bohlin had multiple stores or just ONE store that kept moving around.

Edward H. Bohlin was born Emil Helge Bohlin in Sweden in 1896. He attended school through the 8th grade. He came to the US before 1917. He is found in Los Angeles in 1937 and registered for the draft in WWII, listing the Sunset Blvd address as his place of business. The 5760 Sunset address which is found in a 1938 Los Angeles Directory. The 6309 Sunset address is found in a 1937 directory as well. It appears that he did move the store rather than having more than one at the same time. I did not find a directory listing for the Highland address. There is an online article which says that when he came to California he operated his business under "Hollywood Novelty and Leather Shop. This may have been the address on Highland but I cannot find a listing for that specifically. By 1926 he had changed the name to Edward H. Bohlin, Inc.

There is a listing for a home address at 4126 W. 22nd place. This is one of a pair of duplexes, built in 1924 and still there.

From Find A Grave:Edward H. Bohlin was born in 1895 in Sweden. He came to the U.S. after a short stint in Cody, Wyoming. He moved to Hollywood, California and from the 1930s to the 1980s was the premier producer of silver mounted saddles and accessories. His jewelry, gun rigs, and spurs were purchased and worn by most of the western movie cowboys of the time including Tom Mix, Hopalong Cassidy, Buck Jones, Roy Rogers, Gene Autry and the Lone Ranger.

There are two pictures of Mr. Bohland I found. One is in Find A Grave.
His business is still operating under new ownership. Mr Bohlin died in 1980.

Examples of his work can be found at the Autry museum

ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2018 5:25 PM

:previous: Wow! Thanks for the additional information oldstuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff
Here it is.
Edward Bohlin home address at 4126 W. 22nd place. This is one of a pair of duplexes, built in 1924 and still there.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/BMhHqx.jpg
GSV

He must have lived here before he started making the big bucks.

Here's how he got his start:
After some crude attempts at fashioning silver and copper buckles, Bohlin opened his own leather
shop in 1920. But after a second marriage failed, Bohlin – who had become proficient with twirling
rope and shooting his Colt revolver – abandoned his business and joined a traveling Wild West
show headed to the coast. It was just as well. His temper had gotten him in trouble with the law
more than once, and it was time for him to move on.

Legend has it that during the show’s appearance at the Pantages Theatre in Los Angeles, Bohlin
was approached by silent film Cowboy Tom Mix, who wanted to purchase his handcrafted calf-skin
jacket. Others soon recognized the flare in Bohlin’s style and he began to appear as an extra in
cowboy movies and started making tooled leather gear for stars like Mix, William S. Hart, and others.
In 1922 he opened the Hollywood Novelty Leather Shop and scratched out a living by making special pieces
for film star Buck Jones and his wife Dell, who did stunt work. Major contracts to make leather outfits and harnesses
for decidedly un-western films such as The Ten Commandments (1923) and Ben-Hur (1925) helped him keep solvent.
from bohlinhistory



Tom Mix
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/dNkuJx.jpg

Tom Mix signed his picture, "To Ed Bohlin, Whose leather work is A-1."


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/Uau9AQ.jpg
bohlinhistory

Clayton Moore as The Lone Ranger with Silver. Both the hero and the horse are dressed in Bohlin gear.

as for the shop:
Bohlin’s firm was formally organized in Hollywood in 1926 as Edward H. Bohlin Inc. [as oldstuff informed us] The Bohlin Shop moved many times over the next 19 years.
He published lavish catalogs for promotion & his shop became a gathering place for real and imagined cowboys,
Bohlin joined organizations like the exclusive men’s equestrian group, the Rancheros Vistadores, whose members then bought and displayed his products.

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Downtownkid Feb 28, 2018 5:53 PM

All Nations
 
All Nations Foundation building located on E 6th Street and Gladys Ave -built in 1927 demolish in 1967. Some photos from Book I bought on eBay.[IMG]https://preview.ibb.co/d15WCc/0_cover_all_nations.jpg[/IMG] building[IMG]https://preview.ibb.co/mMdFoH/All_Na...6th_Gladys.jpg[/IMG] boys club[IMG]https://preview.ibb.co/jV8LNc/boys_club_e.jpg[/IMG]chapel[IMG]https://preview.ibb.co/ikUANc/all_nations_chapel.jpg[/IMG] Day care[IMG]https://preview.ibb.co/fMUV5x/All_Nations_Day_Care.jpg[/IMG]

Andys Feb 28, 2018 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 8102384)
Thanks very much for those pictures
Here's a volume , one of three on the site, about Manzanar [apple orchard/grower in Spanish]

https://archive.org/details/threefarewellsto00burt

And another that has maps, pix etc- maybe some are repetitive, but these are several hundred pages

https://archive.org/details/culturallandscap00manz

There is also another set of volumes by Unlau done for the National Park Service

A web search should turn up Tule Lake , and Poston, AZ where one of my college housemates was born. I presume a Takeno or Ohara that were hischool classmates may have had similar backgrounds, but it never came up.

As for panic, don't forget the Battle of Los Angles, which followed by a day the shelling of Ellwood [just north of Santa Barbara] and the sinking of S.S. Montebello, just out of Avila loaded with oil, off Cambria. That's all San Luis Obispo County. The Montebello , still full of oil, lies there still.
The oil storage tanks that were fed from Santa Maria oil fields were on the bluffs at the north east edge of the bay. If one knows where to look, the excavation for a fake gun emplacement- a log or telephone pole- can be seen just off the left side of NB hiway 101 near the little summit as it is about to turn north to SLObispo

And one last note. Within a week after 12/7 Southern Pacific RR and Santa Fe Ry, both with with long stretches of coastal trackage, started fitting headlights of locomotives with shields so as to avoid detection of the strong light from overhead aircraft

If you wiki "Japanese Internment Camps" you'll find a list from which you can extract coordinates which can be plugged into say, Bing Maps, and you can see where exactly these camps were located, as well as how they look today. Most of the camps have some remains, or footprint. It's an interesting keyboard journey, IMHO.
Andys

Tourmaline Feb 28, 2018 6:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 8102384)

As for panic, don't forget the Battle of Los Angles, which followed by a day the shelling of Ellwood [just north of Santa Barbara] and the sinking of S.S. Montebello, just out of Avila loaded with oil, off Cambria. That's all San Luis Obispo County. The Montebello , still full of oil, lies there still.
The oil storage tanks that were fed from Santa Maria oil fields were on the bluffs at the north east edge of the bay. If one knows where to look, the excavation for a fake gun emplacement- a log or telephone pole- can be seen just off the left side of NB hiway 101 near the little summit as it is about to turn north to SLObispo

And one last note. Within a week after 12/7 Southern Pacific RR and Santa Fe Ry, both with with long stretches of coastal trackage, started fitting headlights of locomotives with shields so as to avoid detection of the strong light from overhead aircraft


With the benefit of hindsight, there is little question that Executive Order 9066 was an overreaction to contemporaneous events resulting in significant injustice to many - in many directions -and countries.

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In the 1940 US census, some 1,237,000 persons identified as being of German birth; 5 million persons had both parents born in Germany; and 6 million persons had at least one parent born in Germany. German immigrants had not been prohibited from becoming naturalized United States citizens and many did so. The large number of German Americans of recent connection to Germany, and their resulting political and economical influence, have been considered the reason they were spared large-scale relocation and internment.

Shortly after the Japanese strike on Pearl Harbor, some 1,260 German nationals were detained and arrested, as the government had been watching them. Of the 254 persons not of Japanese ancestry evicted from coastal areas, the majority were ethnic German. During WWII, German nationals and German Americans in the US were detained and/or evicted from coastal areas on an individual basis. Although the War Department (now the Department of Defense) considered mass expulsion of ethnic Germans and ethnic Italians from the East or West coast areas for reasons of military security, it did not follow through with this. The numbers of people involved would have been overwhelming to manage.

A total of 11,507 people of German ancestry were interned during the war. They comprised 36.1% of the total internments under the US Justice Department's Enemy Alien Control Program.

By the outbreak of World War II, the Nazi party's foreign countries organization (NSDAP/AO) sought to organize German citizens abroad, and managed to enroll between 3% and 9% of the German nationals in the Americas. Though it was disappointed by this low participation, by promoting public activities of uniformed members, the NSDAP/AO gained a perception of being more influential than it was in fact. Inaccurate and fearful United States media reports contributed to a public perception of high feeling for the Nazis among German nationals in the Americas.

By contrast, an estimated 110,000–120,000 Japanese-Americans were forcibly relocated from the West Coast and incarcerated in internment camps in the interior run by an agency of the Department of Defense.

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[T]the US accepted more than 4,500 German nationals deported from Latin America, detaining them in DOJ camps. During the early years of the war, the Federal Bureau of Investigation had drafted a list of Germans in fifteen Latin American countries whom it suspected of subversive activities. Following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the US demanded deportation of these suspects for detention on US soil. The countries that responded expelled 4,058 people. Some 10% to 15% were Nazi party members, including approximately a dozen who were recruiters for the NSDAP/AO, which acted as the overseas arm of the Nazi party. Just eight were people suspected of espionage.

Also transferred were some 81 unfortunate Jewish Germans who had fled persecution in Nazi Germany and found refuge in Latin America. Many of the Germans had been immigrants and residents of Latin America for years, some for decades.

In some instances, corrupt Latin American officials took the opportunity to seize the property of Germans. Sometimes financial rewards paid by American intelligence led to a person's identification as German and expulsion. Several countries did not participate in the program, namely, Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Mexico.

The following nations set up their own detention facilities for enemy aliens of Axis nations: Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Curaçao, the Dominican Republic, Mexico, Nicaragua and Venezuela, as well as in the Panama Canal Zone. footnotes omittedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...rman_Americans [
Much more on the subject here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...nese_Americans




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Part of the 2000 Japanese who registered yesterday for the trip to Manzanar colony are shown above in offices of the Wartime Civilian Control Administration on Spring street -- caption on photograph
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All enemy aliens living in the [below] indicated evacuation area, an area thick with defense plants, must move by Feb. 24, the United States ordered yesterday. Five miles wide, the zone extends 10 miles inland to Western Ave.--caption on photograph
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"Part of a 10-day evacuation program, Japanese at the Santa Anita assembly center are shown in the process of departing. At dawn, evacuees crowd gate to check baggage, all labeled for shipment on the train with them.
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Transportation of Japanese Americans to Manzanar Internment Camp, Venice, California.
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