I bet the "fuzz" were always checking that place out. Looking for grass in hidden nooks and crannies. The Sunset Strip has become a sad place far removed from its mid 1960s to mid 1970s glory years when it was the L.A. epicenter of the counterculture and music scene. A long slow decline. Westwood had an even more precipitous fall. It was the place to go on weekends after the Strip declined until the late 1980s, when gang violence killed a lady bystander and it all ended. I went to UCLA in the late 1970s,/early 1980s and Westwood boomed. Could hardly get through the crowds on Saturday night.

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Here's an interesting original (not a reprint) photograph currently on eBay

"19TEENS LOS ANGELES EXAMINER NEWSPAPER OFFICE NEWSBOY HEADLINES WWI POSTER"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/i7JhRt.jpg
eBay

Of course this could be in anywhere in Los Angeles County.




update:

I just noticed this.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/YNzXw7.jpg
detail

Unless I'm mistaken, "City Property" is painted on the window.


& there's another word below. . .something OGRAPHER (it doesn't appear to be "photographer") It might be Stenographer but why would a place like this need a stenographer? :shrug:





That day's headline.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/izjyXf.jpg
detail


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90 weeks! Who knew? Pretty impressive.

Re: "Although it doesn't have much of a Los Angeles connection"

The Dale was designed, built, and sold in Los Angeles. One of the three remaining cars is in the Petersen Automotive Museum.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3ef5da56_b.jpg
The research and development offices were on Deering Avenue in Canoga Park. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/a...-revealed.html

The Twentieth Century Motors showroom was at
16055 Ventura Blvd., Encino
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4d4bd4e5_b.jpg
Both via Petersen Automotive Museum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slMfva3Auqo

:duh.. ..

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51Fv-q1XH9S.jpg
This book...Matt Stone (Author), Preston Lerner (Author)

This book reveals one of automotive's greatest mysteries....what was the bio sex of the DALE's producer?

The DALE assembly line needed to get up to standards in the ''door fit'' department. Since they only made 3 cars, the assembly line was rather short.

Several cars have been inaugurated in Los Angeles over the years but sadly all of them went the way of the Dodo bird.

That's Tesla-level fit & finish.

The Peterson Museum also has a surviving Davis Divan, a vehicle brought up on the previous page here. It appeared on a 2015 YouTube episode of Jay Leno's Garage.

https://i.imgur.com/lbb1IWP.png?1

https://youtu.be/eCcqQOFayFU

rare....rare....rare.

We visited the famous Balloon Route Trolley in the earlier days of nla.but we haven't seen this.

"Los Angeles Hermosa 1906 Panoramic Excursion Train Trolley Photo" (Silver Gelatin On Cellulose Nitrate Negative)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/swC6sW.jpg
eBay

Asking Price:...US $1,020.00




BUT WAIT! There's a mystery component as well.


The seller included details of the photo and neg. but there's one that doesn't appear anywhere in the panorama.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/3Wb6GQ.jpg
Link



Here it is. (still in negative form)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/eYHCP0.jpg

With this we might be able to figure out where in Hermosa Beach the photograph was taken.


update: If the neg. is flipped, it does fit onto the left end of the panorama. The seller must have cropped it out.
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e_r, the neg would turn out something like this, if also flipped:

https://i.postimg.cc/tJbM479V/NegNLA.jpg

:cheers:

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:previous: Thanks so much, odinthor..And you flipped it too!
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609 1/2 N. Spring St., Sunset and Spring?
 

Hello, am seeking a photo for the period 1930s-1940s for 609 1/2 N. Spring St., off Sunset Blvd., for years 1935-1940ish; my mom's family lived there in the 1930s/40s. It was across from the Bamba Club (have seen several photos of the club, which was pretty famous at the time, in several noir movies, Criss Cross & Kiss Me Deadly).
There is a 1915 photo of the same corner in the Seaver Collection General Photo File GPF_3930 ), Natural History Museum. Photo caption says: “NW Corner North Spring and Marchessault (it was Sunset later), 1915” – and 609 ½ is identified at that time as “Campi’s Café.”
Sorry I'm a first-time user here, I don't seem to be able to paste the image onto here. But see the link below.
Also am seeking photo of 304 Marchessault, site of the store Foo Lung, from 1914-1938 (listed in all city directories at that address for those years).
Not sure when 304 Marchessault was torn down for Union Station. Neither of these buildings exist today (areas torn down).
Thanks if anyone can help!Seaver Center Collection Details | NHM

CareyG, there was photograph but all of Michael-Ryerson's photographs are missing from the thread. :(

I'll try to find it again.

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I was at UCLA at the same time, we'd head out from the dorms on weekends to get some food and see a movie. Maybe stop at Tower Records on Westwood and see what was in the cut-out bin.

Thanks for the mention, I've been away from the thread for about a month(work/no internet), and am catching up. Love the dreamy look from the haze in the shot, but the highlights are blown(the lights on the buildings have a lot more color). It's one of my pet peeves.

Once more. . . .

................................................................Psychedelic Conspiracy at 8802 Sunset Blvd.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/7ngK2r.jpg

:previous: Thanks for this, Lorendoc.


Here's Tony Melendy posing with some of his artwork. (his "large translucent plastic sculptures" are mentioned in Lorendoc's newspaper)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/JvWUqR.jpg
martcollective


The photograph was taken by Tyler Thornton in 1968.

detail
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/8L5lfr.jpg

um. .interesting base. :no:



Here's the lower right, the photographer's signature & the date it was reprinted.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/AqaSSg.jpg
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That base looks like it could be "dump glass."

Cheers,

Earl

Angelyne
 

I was born in L.A. area (Pasadena) in the early 1950s and lived there (mostly SF Valley) until 1988. I used to recall seeing Angelyne billboards in the Hollywood and/or Sunset Strip area. Are these billboards still there? Who put them up & why? Did Angelyne the ever achieve success?

Westwood Blvd. and nearby streets were incredibly crowded in the late 1970s/early 1980s on weekends. This was about the time the video games were coming in. I used to go into an arcade and play a few rounds of Packman and Star Castles. Would also spend a lot of time in the bookstores, where you could hang out and read the new books for free. Often ate at the Sizzlers and Hamburger Hamlet in the village. For good deli you could go a few miles south on Westwood Blvd. to Juniors, and nearby there was an Apple Pan that had great burgers and pies. One thing I never did was visit the mortuary where many famous stars were buried, including Marilyn Monroe, recently joined by Hef. For long walks I would often walk from the campus into Holmby Hills, and actually walked by the Playboy Mansion. I saw no way to sneak in, so I kept going. Security was tight. I was on one of those walks when I heard that John Lennon was shot on my pocket radio.. Will never forget that day. Sad.

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I'm afraid we're conflating the name of LAP's excursion car "Hermosa"* (a fixture on the Balloon Route trips for many years) with the location of the photos: Redondo Beach. The building and storage tank shown in the image which Odinthor so helpfully flipped is the Pacific Light & Power steam generating plant at that location.

https://calisphere.org/item/417782bb...2664bb3ba8f9b/

* In those days, some parlor cars were given names instead of numbers to emphasize the de luxe nature of the service. For example, LAP's fleet also included "El Viento" and "Mermaid". Perhaps we've lost something over the decades...

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Please calm down everyone. ..Let's not derail the thread.


Thanks for the correction, Henry Huntington. The trolley car was named 'Hermosa' but the location was Redondo Beach... Got it. :)

Here's the photo at your link.

The principal steam power plant for Henry Huntington's Pacific Light and Power (PL&P) system at Redondo Beach.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/gsMlah.jpg
huntingtonarchives


For comparison - the view from the ebay panorama.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/3sImaT.jpg

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There is a map of Old Chinatown with a current layout of Union Station in Jenny Cho's book "Chinatown in Los Angeles" which shows Foo Lung was located on the south side of Marchessault and it would be approximately where the driveway to Union Station on the Alameda side. There are several pictures of Alameda and Marchessault in the digital photo archives of USC, LAPL and Huntington Library which you could access using google and doing a seach of "Chinatown." I could not find a picture of "304" but there were quite a few pictures of "Tuey Far Low" restaurant which was about two doors west of "304." Huntington Library documented many of the structures in Old Chinatown in the early 1930's just before the demolition. Hope this helps. BTW, what type of business was "Foo Lung?"

"Merchandising":

https://i.postimg.cc/QxmZffK5/Foo-Lung-LAT-1923-2-7.jpg
LA Times, 2/7/1923

It's all a matter of personal reflection, isn't it? I suppose the people who were of age in the 40's and 50's think of that as the Strip's "Golden Age" what with the famous nightclubs and restaurants of that era. People tend to romanticize their own formative younger years as "best".

It's like all the comments one reads on the youtube videos people have linked of various L.A. streets of the past. So many comments are that the past was better. It was cleaner. The people were nicer. This location or that location was still there. There apparently was no homelessness or disease or anything else back in the day that happened. People were nicer. Etc.

Every time photos of famous restaurants of the past are posted on NLA I think how nice it would be to have been there and eaten at all those places or gone to those nightclubs. Then I think that I don't do much of that now over the decades. I've been wanting to go to Dan Tana's since I don't know when, for example. It's still there, but I haven't. I mean, I think if people went back in time at most points in the past, they wouldn't want to eat anything. And can you imagine saying something that no one now would blink at today, but not in year's past?

The fantastic Cordova Hotel, Los Angeles, once stood on 808 S. Figueroa. This lovely 4 stories building was opened in 1913.

Architect: Neher & Skilling

Builder: Barkelew & Gould

https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...hi9b4Jd=s16000

Anyone knows when and why it was demolished?

Yes! Angelyne is still around, and there are still a few billboards up. She can be seen frequently in her trademark pink Corvette. There will be a movie or mini series coming out this year about her base on this article in The Hollywood Reporter: The Mystery of L.A. Billboard Diva Angelyne’s Real Identity Is Finally Solved BY GARY BAUM The Hollywood Reporter AUGUST 2, 2017 Way before Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian, the enigmatic blonde bombshell was famous for being famous, perpetually driving the streets of Hollywood in that pink Corvette. But her true identity has remained secret all these years … until now.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...ears-1025678/#!

No, actually I agree. The earlier era in the pre 1960s, the "77 Sunset Strip" and before era, with the famous nightclubs like the Trocadero & Ciro's were the real glamor years, although the "Doors/Whisky a Go Go" etc. years are a close second. The Strip was the place before 1960. I mean, the "Rat Pack" actually hung out there, instead of Vegas.

Actually, the "good old days" was anything before 2020, when you could go outside and mix with people without worrying about breathing. When you could have Thanksgiving with relatives and not worry if any lied about being vaccinated, and wonder why your cousin was coughing. Those were the carefree days, before 2020. These days are the real noirish days for the world. But maybe it is darkest before the dawn. Let this is the year we climb out, a return to "normalcy", like a 100 years ago after the " Spanish" Flu vanished or lost its bite. Let the Twenties Roar Again :wiseman:

Thanks for the update. Happy to hear that Angelyne is more than just a billboard. That last picture in the article is a bit disturbing, but age plus botox does that, so she is doing the best she can...a latter day Mae West or Zsa Zsa. She does drive a cool pink corvette, so all is right with the world. I lived in the Van Nuys area in the early 1970s, so maybe I ran into her. Did she pay for her billboards, or did a friend or wealthy admirerer pay?

https://i1.wp.com/instinctmagazine.c...tAngelyne.jpg?resize=593%2C546&quality=100&strip=all&ssl=1

This spectacular looking kitchen belongs to Mrs. Herbert G. Wylie of Los Angeles. Photo is from 1959. no other detalis were provided, like and adress or smth...
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JLlP77EjN...921-012627.png

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Well, Herbert G. Wylie was living at 344 S Hudson Ave in Hancock Park when he died there in 1956.... He once lived at 17 Chester Place.

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I mentioned the cone-shaped Currie's the other day. I had forgotten about Peterson's

Here's an original snapshot that I just came across on ebay. It shows a Peterson's Ice Cream Stand with two column-like cones.


"GIANT PETERSON'S ICE CREAM CONE ROADSIDE PARLOR vtg 20's LOS ANGELES photo SIGN"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ybbCPD.jpg
eBay

The photo was found in an album of California & Nevada photos. . .the seller admits he/she doesn't know the exact location.
That said, there's a very interesting detail visible in the distance to the left of ice cream stand.



And it appears to be a GIANT TIRE!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/AzYYxP.jpg
detail

Wow


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I used to see her, or her pink car, quite frequently. You know, up until about March of 2020. There's a Coffee Bean on the corner and she'd often go there and park on my street. I often saw people come up to her and talk and she'd ask them if they'd like an autograph. She'd go around to her trunk and open it, get an 8x10 and such. She would charge them $10 for it. :)

Did Angelyne have a career besides selling postcards of herself? Was she a singer or entertainer?

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Here's another interesting panorama photograph recently listed on eBay.


It shows employees of the Fuller Rancho which I believe was located out in Cucamonga Corona, California.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/iUCwqo.jpg
eBay




Here's a closer look at the sign above the door of the office.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/y9khpa.jpg
detail






Judging by the cars I'd say the date is . . um. . .I have no idea. 1930s?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RVcflm.jpg




And finally, here's a closer-look at the writing.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/cWFAnd.jpg


Bailey and Ramsey photographers.




How it appeared on eBay.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/0GEvRC.jpg

oops. I just noticed the seller included the year. .1928
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The last person who signed a photo for me was Andy Warhol. I met him at one of his movie showings at a Hollywood Blvd theater. He was kind of quiet and shy.

:cheers:

Angelyne is an actress and a musician. She's very proud of her song "My List."
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...72b9927e_b.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paQRPYHYMZA
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0029754/

The car on the left looks like a 1934 Ford, so it's not earlier than that.

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Thanks for your help, WS1911...I appreciate it. :)

And you are correct about the date. I just found this. (see below)

Corona, California
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/hegX3M.jpg
https://www.google.com/books/edition.../Nad2CQAAQBAJ?eastvalehistory

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/6DzCQv.jpg
coachbuilt

The house was called Casa Orone by combining the names of the owner, O.R. Fuller and his wife, Ione.



A bit of history.

The guest ranch (Fuller RanchO) was located on O.R. 'Ollie' Fuller's farm. . .

. . .and boy! ..was it ever a BIG FARM!

"Six square miles of ranch land, about 3,000 acres, were acquired by the Fuller family in 1889. For 65 years, till 1954,
this ranch was the largest establishment – the only truly large establishment – on the north side of this stretch of the Santa Ana River."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/y9khpa.jpg
eBay


update:


This is SURPRISING!

There was illegal gambling going on at the Fuller RanchO.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/ekib4P.jpg
coachbuilt

Surely there are 'noirish' stories associated with this place.


I don't know if this token has anything to do with gambling but it's intriguing none the less.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/tWhE1f.jpg




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I have to laugh.

Someone from the UK emailed me today telling that over 25 posts have been removed from this thread.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D All the Dale car are gone.

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https://youtu.be/aZEsBsm8w6I

https://i.imgur.com/9tJhZVj.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - San Bernardino Sun,1 February 1936

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Thx NN. I was hoping for something a bit more noirish but the stolen accordion will suffice. ;)


Here's a 1940s postcard from the Fuller RanchO.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/kUX3Cz.jpg
eBay



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1Gqnzj.jpg
eBay



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Harrys, I don't know the exact date it was demolished but I do know that the corner of the building lasted longer than the rest.


As a reminder. . .

The area in red was left standing and was home to the Cordova Bar.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/1mzlru.jpg




The Cordova Bar (detail from a slide found on eBay)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/5iC3gz.jpg

But I don't know how long the Cordova Bar was in existence.



The original post can be found Here..(with LARGER images)
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A landlord from 30 years ago used to tell me about his visits to the old Cordova Bar. I think he went two times as he's not a regular drinker.

I bought his legal interest in an apartment building for $10K. He died the year I was almost through with his payoff and saved $800 with his death at age 85. In fact, my family was scheduled to inherit the building upon his death but I was in a hurry for the income from the 6 tenants. My late brother was anxious to sell the building, which I had to accept. Being a landlord was not fun for me. Tenants can be a headache and also very destructive.

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Agree. The only way to be a landlord is to hire a company to deal with the tenants. But they charge too much if you only have a few units. I was a landlord once, and it was a big headache. Not worth it. Renters not having money to pay rent. Renters subletting their units (suspected that one had 10 people in there). Destructive tenants. Plumbing and electrical things need fixing. The toilet was always clogged in the one with 10 people. Possibly fabricated lawsuits, trip and fall, etc. A big headache. Nope. Not for me.

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I remember the Currie's stands when I was a kid. They had one big conical cone on the roof instead of the two with this Peterson's outfit. The Currie's cone on the roof was at least 20 feet tall, maybe more. I think Currie's went out of business because of competition with Basken & Robbin's ice cream shops, which were opening lots of franchises in the mid to late 1960s. I always tried to talk my parents into stopping at a Basken & Robbins for a triple scoop cone: chocolate almond, burgundy cherry and pistachio. Delicious..can still taste it even though that was over 50 years ago. No plain vanilla for me. I also remember there were a lot of Orange Julius stands back then. Don't see them anymore. Same with Woolworths, Zody's, Thriftymart, Thrifty's drugs (good ice cream cones for a nickle a scoop), Van de Camps with the windmill etc. Youthful memories defunct.

Needless to say with all the triple scoops, I was a husky kid, borderline fat by high school. They were always trying to get me to join the football team as a lineman because of my size, but I was a bookish nerd, good with science & math etc. and physically somewhat uncoordinated. Plus I was ahead of my time, afraid of losing brain cells to concussion playing tackle football. So I said no. I lost weight so they would stop bothering me to join the team. Coach got back at me by giving me a C in gym. But in my high school, PE didn't count in GPA, so I got the last laugh and got into a good college.

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Here's an original 35mm slide, dated 1966, recently listed on eBay.

"1966 LOS ANGELES scenic view PEPSI sign, Broadway Plaza ORIGINAL 35mm SLIDE."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Xa1RVW.jpg
eBay

At first I thought the red about the Pepsi sign was perhaps part of the seller's watermark. . .

. .so I decided to take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/z6iMeD.jpg

..Nope, it's not the seller's watermark. It's large neon letters advertising KTLA.







Correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe the photographer's vantage point was from the top of the Sunset Vine Tower. (height: 297.01 ft.)


In this image, dated 1963, you can see, both, the Sunset Vine Tower and the Pepsi sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dJ0n3Z.jpg
water&power


Whatcha' think?

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Here's one more post for tonight.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe we have seen Jack's On the Strip on NLA.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/q9Mbhl.jpg
gettyimages

Hollywood Street Scene At Night - Circa 1954

"A view of Jack's Hamburgers sign along Sunset Boulevard."


Do any of you fine noirishers know where on the Strip it was located?

Link
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https://i.postimg.cc/GtG5PqWB/Jacks.jpg
https://one.usc.edu/archive-location/jacks-0

(And the address appears to be across from our recent subject, Tower Records.)

But the fun at 8806 Sunset didn't stop there. In 1973:

https://i.postimg.cc/FsxP9dNQ/8806-S...-1973-8-15.jpg
LA Times, 8/15/1973

And for the more discerning, in 1978:

https://i.postimg.cc/g2kgrz2L/8806-S...1978-12-24.jpg
LA Times, 12/24/1978