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JeffDiego Apr 14, 2023 8:48 PM

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Originally Posted by santamonicadesign (Post 9918012)
...that an architect would be responsible for tearing down such a beautiful old house. Not to mention, build in it's place (IMHO) a hideous oversized monstrosity. And FYI, I'm very familiar with the location and have ridden my bike along this wonderful street countless times until this - an egotistical monument to his pathetic self while ignoring the neighbors and neighborhood.

Agree 100%. A hideous eyesore & monument to his pathetic ego.

riichkay Apr 14, 2023 11:03 PM

I was running the 1930 census for the Enumeration District that, I thought, included the Garden of Allah, as I was curious as to who may have been shown as permanent or long-term tenants in that year....turns out that I was in the wrong e.d. as I could not find the Allah (the maps showing the e.d.'s in these old censuses are invariably difficult to decipher, there is a lot of guesswork involved)....anyway, the general boundaries of the district I was running are Crescent Heights to Doheny Dr., south of Sunset.

As long as I was in the neighborhood I kept going, finding a few recognizable names, and the usual mix of film industry has-beens and never-weres.....at the end of the ledger, the very last entry, was 9215 Doheny Drive....this one pretty much jumped off the page....



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds


The other side of the ledger details what all these servants did around the house....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



9215 Doheny was the "La Collina" estate, built by the banker Benjamin R. Meyer in 1924....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds



The house was designed by Gordon B. Kaufman (Ned Doheny & wife were so taken with the work that they hired Kaufman for their Greystone estate)....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds





https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


I'd never heard of La Collina or Ben Meyer....he was certainly a significant figure in the city's growth....a mini-bio from Find A Grave.....


"Banker. Chairman of the Board of Union Bank & Trust Company, a bank he helped form. Basically forced into the banking business as the result of the accumulation of client funds in the wool trading business, the Kaspare Cohn Commercial & Savings Bank was founded in 1914. Kaspare Cohn was his father-in-law and was very prominent in Los Angeles Jewish and civic affairs. Mr. Meyer was named Vice President. He was named its President in 1916 when the bank was renamed Union Bank & Trust.

Meyer was also a director of the Southern California Gas Company. He was a trustee of Cedars of Lebanon Hospital (a facility previously formed by his father-in-law), and his widespread business interests linked him with every facet of the growth of Southern California.

At his death the Los Angeles City Council adjourned in his memory and the governor at that time expressed condolences publicly. The Water & Power Commission also adjourned in his memory, pointing out that he had helped obtain Congressional passage of a bill that ultimately led to the construction of Hoover Dam.

He actively pursued deep sea diving and in 1929 he was Winston Churchill's host on a fishing trip to Santa Catalina Island, during which time the British leader caught his first marlin, and the two posed for pictures with the 178 lb. catch."


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




Meyer and you know who....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



In 1941 Meyer sold the estate to a investment group. In subsequent decades, the estate was subdivided into building lots for smaller homes. The long driveway became a new street. Although much altered, "La Collinas" main house, featured in the TV series Entourage, and gatehouse remain today as independent private residences. 

Much more on the estate here.....https://halfpuddinghalfsauce.blogspo...n-r-meyer.html

ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2023 3:49 AM

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Let me get this straight, Frank Gehry tore down a house designed by F. Pierpont Davis & Walter S. Davis valued at $15,000,000.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/F0Yv5D.jpg
calisphere..This photograph was taken in 1982.

From what I read earlier today the home was originally built for Mrs. E.W. Halliday in 1919. (no mention of Mrs. Wing)



A 2016 article in LaCurbed.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/gK49Xy.jpg
Lacurbed

Hmm. .so Gehry bought a house "on the best street in the best neighborhood" and then turned around and tore down the original house.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/fHbmGT.jpg
Lacurbed

:previous: And it appears that Gehry is going to incorporate the Davis & Davis doorway into some sort of pergola.



F. Pierpont Davis & Walter S. Davis


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/XoFQao.jpg


Was there an uproar when Gehry tore down the Davis & Davis house?

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ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2023 4:30 AM

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Here's another mystery residence currently on eBay.


Seller's description:... "VINTAGE PHOTOGRAPH Spencer Lionel Adams YEATMAN RESIDENCE LOS ANGELES"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/WlngHg.jpg
eBay


The big clue this time is "Yeatman".

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HossC Apr 15, 2023 9:19 AM

:previous:

That appears to be the home of Walter C Yeatman and his wife Mabel. It's at 2441 Chiselhurst Drive (his office was at 704 S Spring, although I don't know his occupation). We're looking at the back of the house, and despite Zillow having dozens of photos, this is the best I could find of that side (the rear is on the right). Zillow give a build date of 1929, and show an estimated price of around $4.7m.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...urstDrive1.jpg
Zillow

GaylordWilshire Apr 15, 2023 11:24 AM

:previous:


Walter Clark Yeatman was a mortgage and investment broker....


https://i.postimg.cc/SxMxVQMr/yeatmanres-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/SQM1ywCP/yeatmangarage-bmp.jpg

GaylordWilshire Apr 15, 2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9918970)
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Let me get this straight, Frank Gehry tore down a house designed by F. Pierpont Davis & Walter S. Davis valued at $15,000,000.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/F0Yv5D.jpg
calisphere..This photograph was taken in 1982.

From what I read earlier today the home was originally built for Mrs. E.W. Halliday in 1919. (no mention of Mrs. Wing)


F. Pierpont Davis & Walter S. Davis


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/XoFQao.jpg


Was there an uproar when Gehry tore down the Davis & Davis house?

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The house was built by Eliza W. Halliday in 1919--she was a widow moving from the newly-built house at 2146 West Adams Street she bought in 1903. She and her husband were separated when her husband had died in 1899 having cut her out of his will, but she sued and won money from his estate. Charlotte Wing was her daughter. Eliza was 76 when she decided to build on Adelaide Drive. Her house on Adams still stands--its full story is here. See her obit below--


Pierpont Davis lived at 500 S Rossmore in Hancock Park--the story of his house is here.



https://i.postimg.cc/Zqj02bTy/hallidayobitcompl-bmp.jpg
LAT Feb 13, 1930

ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2023 7:43 PM

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Thanks for your help, Hoss and GW. :) ...I always appreciate it.



Here's a comparitively modern mystery location.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/d5S7jA.jpg
eBay

The eBay seller mentions the Fall of the Roman Empire is showing at the theater further down the block. (I can barely see it)

I'm anxious to figure out (if we can) why the little boy is posed in front of this particular building. Could it be where his father works or. .um. . maybe it's a hotel and his family is staying there :shrug: ?


Help! :whip:
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UphillDonkey Apr 15, 2023 9:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9919258)
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Thanks for your help, Hoss and GW. :) ...I always appreciate it.



Here's a comparitively modern mystery location.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/d5S7jA.jpg
eBay

The eBay seller mentions the Fall of the Roman Empire is showing at the theater further down the block. (I can barely see it)

I'm anxious to figure out (if we can) why the little boy is posed in front of this particular building. Could it be where his father works or. .um. . maybe it's a hotel and his family is staying there :shrug: ?


Help! :whip:
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Outside The Wiltern, looking North up Western Ave

GaylordWilshire Apr 16, 2023 11:36 AM

:previous:


A couple of corresponding LAPL shots:

https://i.postimg.cc/9MTCn9ZQ/wiltern1-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/RZF9zyK8/wiltern2-bmp.jpg

ethereal_reality Apr 16, 2023 4:08 PM

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:previous: Thanks GW. The pics help. And thank you, UphillDonkey for figuring out the location.


I looked through some old photographs too.

I was trying to find the gold entrance canopy with the large 660 as welll as the storefront with the silver metal on its facade but I didn't find anything close to matching
what we see in the eBay photgraph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/d5S7jA.jpg



update:

A-ha! Aha! I just noticed the gold entrance canopy in GW's top photograph. :) You have to look closely because it's partially obscured by awnings.



I thought the metal fronted storefront might be a bar but on closer inspection it's a dentist office.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/D9W3uZ.jpg

E.W. Clark?

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HossC Apr 16, 2023 7:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9919657)

I thought the metal fronted storefront might be a bar but on closer inspection it's a dentist office.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/D9W3uZ.jpg

E.W. Clark?

The 1969 CD has E Clark V-DDS at 662 S Western Avenue. 'The Fall of the Roman Empire' (on the marquee) came out in 1964. There are several orthodontists/pedodontists listed at 662 in the 1960 CD, but not E Clark, so it's probably safe to assume that 662 was a dental practice throughout the '60s.

Martin Pal Apr 16, 2023 7:22 PM

When I searched a bit ago to find out when The Wiltern stopped showing films (1979), I saw this photograph labeled "Wiltern." So I looked up more info on it.

http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...1805/large.gifCinema Treasures

In 1977 the Wiltern was dressed as the NYC Paramount Theatre for the film American Hot Wax released in 1978.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zex1MGYNx...rn-AHWax-2.jpg

The Los Angeles Theatres website has a section of Los Angeles Theatres in movies HERE and has a lot of photos of the Wiltern from American Hot Wax, not only from the film, but some behind the scenes photos taken by others when the theatre was being dressed, such as this interesting one:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7FkGJCx-m...ax-Spero-1.jpg

MichaelRyerson Apr 17, 2023 4:42 PM

Just a quick drive-by to add my best wishes...
 
to achieving (and surpassing) 3,000 pages! Wow, that's great! Best to you all going forward.

odinthor Apr 17, 2023 5:14 PM

In e_r's posting of what was to be found to be the Wiltern, we see in the distance this structure, with which addresses 607/609/611 S. Western Ave. are concerned:

https://i.postimg.cc/8cLPwh6R/Western.jpg

We had some postings about it here once upon a time, for instance message #29716. It might be of interest to add a bit.

In June 2008, it looked like this:

https://i.postimg.cc/tR8x55Lx/Western-Elks-June2008.jpg
gsv

The building which had been there was removed in 1930 to 1469 W. 83rd St.:

https://i.postimg.cc/L6Ms50cN/Wester...930-Moving.jpg
LA Building Records

That structure appears to still be where it was moved:

https://i.postimg.cc/mgmZdZt5/Wester...1469-W83rd.jpg
gsv

A new building was to be built on its site on S. Western Ave. by one DeMille:

https://i.postimg.cc/nrfnsCPC/Wester...0-De-Mille.jpg
LA Building Records

But his name was not invoked when the place opened, or thereafter. Two examples:

https://i.postimg.cc/q7trjsfN/Wester...-1932-1-24.jpg
LA Times, 1/24/1932

https://i.postimg.cc/sX7rR3gy/wester...-1938-5-15.jpg
LA Times, 5/15/1938

The Wilshire Club later at that site had some troubles:

https://i.postimg.cc/jdsrG000/Wester...Y-1984-8-8.jpg
LA Times, 8/8/1984

ethereal_reality Apr 17, 2023 6:16 PM

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Excellent sleuthing, odinthor. :worship:



It looks like the building across the street (1501 W. 83rd St.) might have been moved from a commercial area. too.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DpI6do.jpg
gsv


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/J2XRNj.jpg

Whaddya think?

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Mackerm Apr 18, 2023 3:23 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/SszG7Vcq/Not-Sa...nica-1930s.png

Huntington Digital Library


A small snip of an enormous panoramic photo listed as: Real Estate sale? Santa Monica? approximately 1930.

I don't think it's either.

From the description: A panoramic view of an event taking place somewhere along the southern California coast. A few hundred automobiles are parked in a lot at the foot of a hill, and people are walking or standing on a path that leads towards the ocean. There are a few tents and shacks set up along the path.

I've got a hunch, but I'll reveal my guess tomorrow.

(Tomorrow)

https://i.postimg.cc/gctbkP0S/sailboats.png

I count eight sailboats. I think the crowd might have come to watch the yacht racing event in the 1932 olympics.

Wikipedia says the course was close to the breakwater, which isn't inconsistent with what Bristolian says below, but that's my theory. :banaride:

Bristolian Apr 18, 2023 3:14 PM

:previous:

Just a wag but I'd say somewhere on the Palos Verdes Peninsula, likely the southern part. Much of it was that wide open around 1930 and the terrain looks about right.

Martin Pal Apr 18, 2023 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 9920422)
to achieving (and surpassing) 3,000 pages! Wow, that's great! Best to you all going forward.
_________________________________________________________________


Hi Michael! Thanks for stopping by!

MichaelRyerson Apr 18, 2023 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9921612)
Hi Michael! Thanks for stopping by!

Hi Martin. Nice to see you still posting. Good stuff. Life returning to near normal down here, might try to start posting and reposting some stuff. We'll see. In the meantime, I still enjoy lurking through from time to time.


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