:previous: This is a very controversial topic that no doubt will lead to arguments. (similar to what happened last week) -with one of your post.

perhaps use this thread instead CBD, How Bad is the Homeless Problem in Your City?



Smog infused...clever.

The worst is 'Light Blue'. There is no way that is light blue. :shakes head in denial:
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Martin Pal, the color scheme for Mar Vista reminds me of the color scheme at Baldwin Hills Village/The Village Green.

BALDWIN HILLS/VILLAGE GREEN PALETTE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/0dHwoK.jpg
THE VILLAGE GREEN



scenes from a 8mm movie
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/Du7T9I.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/pw5q1z.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/S7HHGJ.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/QOsBe5.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/NaRzBW.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/OUYZD6.jpg
The cheerful pastel hues of the 1941-46 paint palette at Baldwin Hills Village.


If anyone's interested, you can read about it at BALDWIN HILLS VILLAGE

(I did a post on this same subject years and years ago)
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Scott, I also want to commend you on the thorough report but there is one street scene from Barfly that has intrigued me. As I recall Mickey Rourke and Faye Dunaway are stumbling home and come across some corn growing and take some home with them. Any idea where that was shot? Again it has been a long time since I saw the movie and I don't even remember the details or if it would even be considered a location. I did a quick check on IMDb but found nothing.

HA! Now you've gone and done it, Bristolian! You've just provided me with a reasonable-enough-sounding excuse to post the second installment of my epic examination of the movie Barfly: The filming locations of Barfly, Part II - the NON-BAR scenes! :banana: A sequel worthy of Mario Puzo! Longer than a CVS receipt! Able to crush broadband internet connections in a single post! It will be an EPIC, I tell ya!! ;)

... all kidding aside, I do know every single location in the movie (other than that UNFINDABLE Catalina/Yoshiko's bar! :hell:). I'll respond to your query in my next post, and I'll try not to blather on for too long in the process!

Incoming...!

Thanks Scott! I figured all I had to do was ask.

I thought that building housing the Kenmore looked familiar. I posted this 1927 picture four years and two days ago in post #20785. Not all of my images in that post seem to be showing, but I'll have to wait until the weekend to investigate.

Part of the Adams Hotel made a very brief appearance in a season 2 (1978) episode of 'CHiPs' called Return of the Turks. My notes say that the hotel was demolished after a fire in the late '80s, but I didn't save my source.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...damsHotel1.jpg
MGM TV/Rosner TV

In the same way that the Kenmore was on Kenmore Street, I thought that our mystery Catalina bar might've been on Catalina Street. Knowing that a later episode of 'CHiPs' used a couple of locations on Catalina Street, I had a quick look, but I couldn't see the home of the bikini dancers. I'll keep an eye out for it if I get time to watch other episodes.

I remember that scene because it was so absurd. The co-worker I went to see the film with (Gina) and I just started laughing out loud because Faye and Mickey are having a conversation and out of the blue Faye stops talking and walking, looks off somewhere and out of the blue says, "Corn." :)

Here's another Wilmington "then and now".

"Exterior view of The First Cabin restaurant in Wilmington. Photo dated: August 6, 1940."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...irstCabin1.jpg
LAPL

Although the address isn't given this time, I just drove the Googlemobile north on Avalon Boulevard until I got to E I Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...irstCabin2.jpg
GSV

Across the street, this building looks like it might have been a contemporary of the First Cabin. It certainly looks better as a T-Mobile store than it did under the previous tenant. I wonder if there are any vintage photos.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...irstCabin3.jpg
GSV

'mystery' construction.

"Four 1963 Orig Negatives LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA Construction Site"

#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/tPZE17.jpg





#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/33N1G8.jpg





#3
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Fek9ls.jpg





#4
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/2D5e2W.jpg

all from EBAY
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'mystery' street corner

Los Angeles Dec. 1916

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/gQkzu6.jpg
EBAY

no doubt a crowd of Christmas shoppers.
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Thanks for the Wilmington 'then & now' pics Hoss. The First Cabin restaurant looks like it was a real gem.

I have also been snooping around Wilmington searching for Yoshiko' Catalina from 'Barfly'.
(for one reason..the close proximity of the Catalina Terminal)

Well I haven't found Yoshiko's booby bar but I did find a small 'Catalina Hotel' that has survived (the building, not the hotel)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/BNn2Cp.jpg
lapl 1946. (:previous: wrong era for Yoshiko's Catalina but I was desperate ;))

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vxu7FP.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vK1Sqi.jpg

Since the building is a former hotel I was intrigued by the lack of windows on the side facng the harbor.

Being the trooper that I am, I went back in time and found this view from 2008.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/RA1FOr.jpg
GSV

You can clearly see where all the windows used to be.

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If you're wondering about the wheel with the wings hanging from the front of the Catalina Hotel building.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/mn6rAf.jpg
detail gsv


The building is now home to 5 BALL RACING

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/AoUExD.jpg
BIKERNET

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:previous: The illustrator has more ink than the illustration.

I believe the site under construction is between Sunset Blvd., Cory Ave., and Phyllis St. The excavation we see
appears to be for the triangular building below at lower right, not for the taller building next to it:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original

Google

I’ve been lurking on this board for awhile, taking almost a year to catch up from the beginning. It’s been an amazing education and persistent rabbit hole for me. Finally, a building I know and worked in for several years.

That’s the original Luckman Building (3 stories from 1964) which was followed by the tower in 1971. Where Soho House is now was once Charles Luckman‘s penthouse residence that was very reminiscent a suburban ranch house surrounded by AstroTurf when I got to see it in the late ‘90s. Charles Luckman, was half of Pereira & Luckman who designed such not-very-noirish LA landmarks as the LAX Theme Building (with Paul Williams and Welton Becket) and CBS Television City to name just a few.

That's 7th & Broadway. The second building from the corner has the distinctive window pattern of Clifton's Cafeteria - 4 large arch-topped windows on the 4th floor, followed by a row of 8 equally-spaced rectangular windows on the 5th floor.

The filming locations of Barfly, Part II - the NON-BAR scenes!
 

Unbelievably, a movie about the lives of hopeless alcoholics actually includes a number of scenes not shot in a bar. Here we'll take a look at them in "The filming locations of Barfly, Part II - the NON-BAR scenes!"

(All images: American Zoetrope, Google Maps - underlined links show the scene on Google street view.)

In the movie's first non-bar scene, we see "Henry" (Mickey Rourke) walking along the street. First he walks past some red bricks, then some green bricks:

https://i.imgur.com/IsE9VT2.jpg

This scene was shot at the northwest corner of Third and Berendo streets. Note that both the red and green bricks still remain to this day:

https://i.imgur.com/CD3Ya9h.jpg

As Henry walks past the green bricks, you can clearly see the reflection of the apartment building at 316 South Berendo in the shop window:

https://i.imgur.com/Lg0eKou.gif

https://i.imgur.com/ruE1KBW.jpg

The scene continues as Henry walks west on Third Street. In this shot, we can see the former "Frolic Beer Bar", located at 3617 W Third Street:

https://i.imgur.com/j7AIgxb.jpg


Later on, Henry pauses at a fire hydrant and crosses the street:

https://i.imgur.com/sP6V4JF.jpg

Once again, we are at the corner of Third and Berendo - above we are looking north, at the top of the buildings Henry walks past with the color bricks, while below we are looking west at the Bengal (formerly Ho's) liquor store:

https://i.imgur.com/o6yvNd6.jpg


THE CORN SCENE!

... was shot at 334 S Westlake Ave.

https://i.imgur.com/0ulMaD9.jpg

Note that the two images do not line up perfectly. This is because the apartment building on the left (below) is a new building, and at the time Barfly was filmed it was a vacant lot - the location of the corn. In other words, the Barfly shot is just to the left of the Google image. I believe that the palm tree behind the light pole in the Barfly image above is actually this palm tree:

https://i.imgur.com/Rwr37dX.jpg

Both of these background buildings can be seen in Barfly. However, the new apartment building now blocks the building on the left from being seen from Westlake Ave:

https://i.imgur.com/VsrinoC.jpg


As Henry and "Wanda" (Faye Dunaway) are picking corn the police shine a spotlight on them. The two run from the police into the Royal Palms apartment building at 360 S Westlake Ave:

https://i.imgur.com/TdjlfRH.gif

https://i.imgur.com/frGqoDg.jpg

Here, for the sake of clarity, is an aerial shot of where the scene plays out:
https://i.imgur.com/JvzmbCB.jpg

If you watch closely, you can see Henry and Wanda run past the still-existing stairs and driveway:

https://i.imgur.com/HXkyVLd.jpg

NOTE: While these scenes at the Royal Palms were being filmed, Charles Bukowski visited the set. He was surprised to discover that the crew had chosen to film at the Royal Palms, an apartment building where he and Jane Cooney Baker (on whom the Wanda character is based) actually lived during their relationship. This was a complete coincidence, as nobody who was working on the film knew beforehand that Bukowski and Jane had lived there.


Once they are inside of Wanda's apartment room, however, some Hollywood trickery is performed - the two aren't actually in the Royal Palms - they are now about 10 blocks away inside of the Bryson Apartments at 2701 Wilshire Blvd:

https://i.imgur.com/jh5mkty.jpgLA Department of City Planning

Note the shadows on Wanda's wall - they match the distinctive style of the Bryson's paperclip-like balcony railing:

https://i.imgur.com/XmLYeIt.jpg

Another shot of the balcony railing:

https://i.imgur.com/cbpoW4Y.jpg

It would take far too long to show all of the evidence that the interior of Wanda's apartment was shot inside of the Bryson, but all of the shots through the windows reveal their true location. For example, you can see the Sheraton Town House at 639 S Commonwealth Ave from the west-facing window behind Henry:

https://i.imgur.com/5fySkq8.jpg

It is stated multiple times in the movie that Wanda's apartment is on the third floor. This seems correct to me, judging by the view out of her windows.

Since she has a corner apartment, facing west and north, that would mean that this is the location of her apartment (the bottom floor is a basement, so the floor that looks like the fourth is actually the third - the floor that is street-level is the second floor):

https://i.imgur.com/PkwAxY6.gif


In a fit of jealousy, Henry tosses Wanda's clothing out the window at the Bryson:

https://i.imgur.com/TN0tuIV.gif

Some of the clothes land outside of the Bryson:

https://i.imgur.com/uBzK7Py.jpg

... while miraculously, some of the clothes land 10 blocks away, outside of the Royal Palms:

https://i.imgur.com/baMpBQx.jpg

Later, Henry and Wanda leave the Bryson, which again turns into the Royal Palms once they are outside.

Notice that in the shot from the movie, directly below, there are not yet any buildings in the background... only corn fields...

https://i.imgur.com/4S5c13n.jpg

By the way, I remember that "Royal Palms 360" sign. I liked it, I don't know why they got rid of it.


The two go walking south on Westlake Ave, and a block down they pass the Regina Apartments at 420 S Westlake. You don't get to see the building very well, but the same kind of stickers are still used for the address:

https://i.imgur.com/lLGnhSQ.jpg

They walk past one more building that has since been torn down, until they speak to a man in a vacant lot:

https://i.imgur.com/fqviJoh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7gDETJ7.jpg

The ornate-looking building behind Henry (green) is the Cameo Hotel, at 504 S Bonnie Brae street:

https://i.imgur.com/jIU6cSU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NJcna8g.jpg
I believe that the building highlighted in magenta is the Madison on Fifth apartments at 467 S Bonnie Brae, but if so the exterior has been heavily modified since 1987.


Henry puts Wanda on the bus at the corner of 6th and Westlake by the Hotel Barbizon, with the Hotel Californian behind the Barbizon:

https://i.imgur.com/9YyJJ3Y.jpg

The Hotel Californian was destroyed by a fire in 1995, but its signs were rescued and were stored by the Mulholland Fountain in Griffith Park, where they languished for some time. You can actually see them in this Google street view from 2009:

https://i.imgur.com/T3LEY8m.jpg

I actually visited the sign while it was there, and took about a dozen photos of it. Here are two of my photos:

https://i.imgur.com/RjKMWFz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/E0V5HnE.jpg

The sign was refurbished, and since March of 2017 it sits atop The Paseo at Californian, a new 53 apartment low-income housing complex in the same location as the former Hotel Californian:

https://i.imgur.com/69RHm2J.gif


Henry and the publisher, "Tully Sorenson" (Alice Krige) are shown driving east on Sunset Blvd, from Crescent Heights in West Hollywood all the way to Kingsley Drive in Hollywood's Thai Town, a distance of 3.7 miles.

They start at Great Western Savings - now a branch of Chase Bank - located at 8150 Sunset Blvd, on the Sunset Strip.

Henry pulls Tully's Mercedes back to speak to a prostitute, with the Chateau Marmont in the background:

https://i.imgur.com/SCvI4b7.jpg

The same view today:
https://i.imgur.com/cc9WOol.jpg

They drive past the All American Burger, which is now a Chipotle restaurant:

https://i.imgur.com/5eN9ncu.jpg

... and within a blink of an eye, they are half way across town, facing Bill's Liquor at the corner of Sunset and Serrano Ave:

https://i.imgur.com/9NVTB0y.jpg

The couple in the car in front of them (which features a license plate that says "KSS MY AS") keep making out at the intersection, even after the light turns green, prompting Henry to honk his horn at them. The driver responds by flipping Henry the bird and yelling "**** YOU!", setting up the next scene.

https://i.imgur.com/0pLPxHl.jpg

They drive a block further east, reaching the intersection of Sunset and Hobart Blvd. Henry decides to teach the amorous couple a lesson by pushing their car into the busy intersection:

https://i.imgur.com/aY6F0Z0.gif

Here is the intersection today. The large building on the right was a JONS supermarket at the time of filming. It is now a 99¢ store:

https://i.imgur.com/YDrfSD2.jpg

NOTE: If you look very closely at the shot of the amorous couple from behind, you can just make out a Shakeys Pizza sign:

https://i.imgur.com/NupjVSA.jpg
Photo credit for Shakeys sign inset

The restaurant, still located at 5170 Sunset Blvd, was often visited by the real-life Charles Bukowski, as Bukowski lived so near to it:

https://i.imgur.com/y3E82BJ.jpg

Bukowski's bungalow, located at 5124 De Longpre Avenue, has been given monument status:

https://i.imgur.com/OgKqLDM.jpgimage credit

The lovers flee the scene, showing the intersection of Sunset and Hobart, looking north:
https://i.imgur.com/NCO4sqg.jpg

The intersection today:
https://i.imgur.com/1Qvd5Zo.jpg


The final, non-bar scene is the home of the publisher, Tully Sorenson. It is located at 7515 Mulholland Drive:

https://i.imgur.com/5IMjTzu.jpg

The house is almost entirely unchanged, but I had to scroll back to 2011 on Google street view to reveal the wall. The wall is still standing, but is now covered by vegetation.

https://i.imgur.com/LpohvAb.jpg

A large... gatehouse..?... has been erected over the driveway, but other than that the home is identical to how it appeared in the movie.

By the way, the Sunset Blvd path the two took to get from Wanda's apartment to Tully's home in no way resembles the path you'd actually have to take to get from one to the other:
https://i.imgur.com/tkmQYDw.jpg

But hey, that's Hollywood for ya!

By the way, I kind of geek out about every movie shot in LA like this - but very few of them feature so many great LA locations as Barfly!


PS: GREAT old 1927 image of the Kenmore building, Hoss! I could have probably stared at it for twenty minutes without realizing what is was, it's so unrecognizable today.

Thanks very much for your information, Jh_windsorvillage, and welcome to the thread!

P. S. Awesome Barfly post, Scott Charles!

Outstanding job Scott! Your graphics skills are on display again. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. I really have to see the film again now.

A preview of things to come? ;)

:previous:
Along the lines of Barfly, I have been thinking of some great dive bars used in The Rockford Files. I remember Jim tracking down Angel Martin at one of those on more than one occasion. I'm going to have to break out my DVDs and see if I can find any. From memory, they were very similar to those used in Barfly.

Many thanks, e_r--I hopped into the Googlemobile for a pleasant spin to check this out! Alas, the planned uniformity of street trees seems to have fallen into desuetude...

Ficus trees are at present few and far between on Beethoven (probably because they're messy and the roots are unkind to pavement); but here are a couple:

https://s26.postimg.cc/z1v2xefdl/Ficus.jpg
gsv

I found a Melaleuca at the corner of Moore and Zanja Sts.:

https://s26.postimg.cc/vi957nx95/Mel.jpg
gsv

But happily, or unhappily (because of their health), there are many Magnolias on Meier St.:

https://s26.postimg.cc/cd5vxxsvt/Mag.jpg
gsv

But :tup: e_r -- the Dendrologist Society of the Northern Hemisphere will be contacting you to teach you the secret handshake all dendrologists need to know!