Any guesses as to when this one will get a rendering? Actual construction however still seems to be at least several years away, with site prep starting in late 2014 at the earliest.
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For starters, I lived in Manhattan for a few years and while the city still retains an impressive collection of old buildings, I think it would be naive to say that it's impossible for the city to lose it's historic character. Certainly, there are a number of cities across the country that would exemplify that. Downtown Houston is quite modern and functional. However, I doubt it if anyone would want to live there.
Even if 20 historic buildings were demolished each year in Manhattan, in a hundred years time, the city would look quite different than it does today. In the long run historic preservation ultimately loses. Thats why it's so important to preserve what we already have so Manhattan doesn't become just another boring and textureless city of glass boxes. I'm not saying that every pile of bricks thats over fifty years old should be preserved, but given that these particular buildings are adjacent to the most beautiful and historic terminal in the country, I think a case could certainly be made for their preservation. Perhaps, New York will never be again as beautiful as London and Paris. Although, at one time it certainly was, if not more. That being said, without its old buildings, New York wouldn't be New York. Quote:
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i love that corner and i hope it never changes.
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^ If it never changes, that can only be a bad sign for the City, because if the economy of the City improves enough, that corner will most certainly change, as the City has for years, and will continue to do provided life goes on. And yes, even the museums change.
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http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=178173 Here we will focus on the development that will take place on this, arbuably the most valuable development space in Manhattan. More from the transcript... http://seekingalpha.com/article/3125...ent-transcript Quote:
They've brought in Hines, known for developing and getting towers built, to help get the process going here. With zoning in place next year, it could probably be at least a year or two before we start seeing designs. No architect has been chosen as of yet, so there could also be another design competition. It will be very exciting watching the process here of what will no doubt be another iconic tower for the City. |
That whole interview is worth reading.
Anyway, the only thing that has been established about this site is that it's on the radar for future major development. |
I am happy to see this block go to skyscraper heaven.
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A 1400ft tower (like Cesar Pelli projects) http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7...371c6a11_b.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7...371c6a11_b.jpg and A 1500ft tower http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7258/7...e8879100_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7258/7...e8879100_b.jpg A 1700ft tower (like SOM Burj Khalifa-Dubai) http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7...811f3f77_b.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7...811f3f77_b.jpg A possible 2000ft tower http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8013/7...a32b8ccd_b.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8013/7...a32b8ccd_b.jpg In the end, possible 41 E. 42nd (Madison Ave & 42nd ) and 237 Park Ave towers http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/7...af224335_b.jpg http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/7...af224335_b.jpg |
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Lovely imaginings you've got there.:tup:
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The first two were my favorite. I want something that the developer can slap an external observation deck onto. And a restaurant.
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Heh, i just realized that in this one, it looks like BOA and the new tower are toasting the Empire State Building.:cheers:
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I would love something with a roof height well above the ESB and even 432 Park. I do not want NYC to be a city whose supertalls rely on spires for a large portion of their height. I am not saying that I dislike spires, but I prefer my buildings tall, not my spires. I would really like the first or last one in this location if their rooflines were made taller. Whatever they decide to put here, I am really hoping for an instant classic.
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Sidenote: What tower is that anyway? Is it an actual proposal somewhere? |
I hope they do something like this :) excellent models there
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^ Nothing along the lines of those renders would shock me.
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Quote from a 4-page article on the rezoning...
http://observer.com/2012/06/faulty-t...-get-it-right/ Faulty Towers: Midtown Needs a Makeover, with Twice as Tall Towers, But Can Mayor Bloomberg Get It Right? http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...e-82.png?w=884 Midtown, 2025? (Photo composite: Ed Johnson/NYO; Photos: Getty) http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...pg?w=600&h=481 It all starts with Grand Central. (Getty) By Matt Chaban 6/27/12 Quote:
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http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/143785313/original.jpg
Looks like the short block between the site and Grand Central would become a pedestrian only street under the new zoning... http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/307089970 City Hall: Supersize midtown's east side Massive upzoning effort to encourage bigger towers for aging office district By Theresa Agovino July 8, 2012 Quote:
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Better look at the plan for the plaza...
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...teNKRLG0jrGRPM http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012...erts053227.jpg To the left is where the new tower would rise... http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2012/...3--525x300.jpg http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=6092 Quote:
http://archpaper.com/uploads/grand_central_04.jpg SL Green's recently assembled parcel at 42nd and Vanderbilt http://archpaper.com/uploads/grand_central_02.jpg The Bleak VANDERBILT avenue during morning Rush |
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