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MichaelRyerson Mar 2, 2013 1:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike E (Post 6035519)
Belmont Bob is correct. More specifically a pre-1964 quarter weighs 6.25 grams and there are about 453.59 grams in a pound. So $2000 in 1954-and-older quarters (2 bags) weighs a fraction over 110.23 pounds + plus the weight of the bags. You can handle them but you won't be going anywhere fast with them on foot. A current quarter, made of far cheaper metals, weighs just 5.67 grams.

Thanks, Mike and welcome to the forum. Hope to see you around the campus. As to these quarters, it's a minor point I know but with the way these two guys are handling them, I have a hard time believing these bags weigh 50 lbs apiece.

Godzilla Mar 2, 2013 2:51 PM

Circa 1933, Albert Sheetz Mission Candies.

Exact address uncertain, although the [S]eventh Street sign is visible. '36 directory has many listings including - 627 S. Olive, 4529 S. Broadway, 8001 Sunset, 6324 and 6656 Hollywood Blvd.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0


Tempting AND Delicious.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0

Is that "Simon's" neon across the street? Now, where to park.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0

All from USC Digital

Godzilla Mar 2, 2013 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6035014)
Another popular coffee in the Los Angeles area and beyond was...


http://imageshack.us/a/img268/5687/b...937vcbuckl.jpg
V.C. Buckley circa 1937

nice neon sign
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/9985/benhurcoffiesign.jpg

The Joannes Brothers Company building at 800 Traction. (built 1916)
http://imageshack.us/a/img688/8065/b...brosbuildi.jpg
http://www.you-are-here.com/downtown/ben_hur.html


http://imageshack.us/a/img571/4223/a...hewittside.jpg
gsv

Ben-Hur coffee stand on Wilshire.
http://imageshack.us/a/img441/3851/b...lshirelapl.jpg
LAPL

and on W. Washington.
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/9862/b...50wwashing.jpg
LAPL

below: very similar to this stand posted earlier by FredH
http://imageshack.us/a/img833/1362/aabcupfredhssp.jpg

If this post doesn't make you smell coffee I don't know what would.
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Say what you want, but I'm sticking with Newmark's blend. It's mountain grown and used exclusively by the Ambassador Hotel!

Wilshire and Fairfax, Circa '29 revisited. Looking east x northeast.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0 USC Digital

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0

All from USC Digital

MichaelRyerson Mar 2, 2013 3:37 PM

All this talk of coffee inevitably leads me to...
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8177/7...08195e33_o.jpg
Billboard advertising doughnuts, Herman Schultheis, ca.1943

A Foster and Kleiser billboard for doughnuts sold at Van de Kamp's Bakeries.

LAPL


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8041/7...ff49b775_o.jpg
Contract approval, 1951

Contract approval, 11 October 1951. Betsy Von Furstenberg, 20. An apparently hungry little thing. Went on to a nice, though modest, career in film and television with more success (interest?) in stage work. Complete name, Elizabeth Caroline Maria Agatha Felicitas Therese von Furstenberg-Hedringen and with a name like that you'd expect gloves but...maybe the glazed doughnut sent the gloves to the handbag. And, by the way, that's a Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer contract she's holding.

USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961

belmont bob Mar 2, 2013 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6035541)
Thanks, Mike and welcome to the forum. Hope to see you around the campus. As to these quarters, it's a minor point I know but with the way these two guys are handling them, I have a hard time believing these bags weigh 50 lbs apiece.

no, they’re okay, I picked up hundreds of them including dimes, quarters and halves duing the three years I worked for the bank and you just need to support them under your arms and hold the top.
One time an armored car driver tossed a bag of dimes at the flatbed cart and it caught the corner of the cart and tore open and 10,000 dimes went flying all over the loading dock which was a secured area. So we had to sweep them up and made him and his partner wait while we ran them through a counter to be sure we had every last one…meanwhile other trucks that had shown up had to sit and wait before they could enter the dock.


That job was not hard, but did require a lot of trust, because the pay was really low and during my time there at least a dozen employees were fired for “dipping in” for a twenty here, or a ten there. The bank never prosecuted them because the amount was small, maybe a few hundred over a period of time and they did not want to broadcast to the public how many employees where embezzling cash. But those caught could never again be bonded.

DouglasUrantia Mar 2, 2013 6:19 PM

The Black List or ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by belmont bob (Post 6035606)

That job was not hard, but did require a lot of trust, because the pay was really low and during my time there at least a dozen employees were fired for “dipping in” for a twenty here, or a ten there. The bank never prosecuted them because the amount was small, maybe a few hundred over a period of time and they did not want to broadcast to the public how many employees where embezzling cash. But those caught could never again be bonded.

I talked to a local banker about bank employees who steal from a bank. They're rarely are prosecuted. Of course they're fired and their name goes on a nationwide Black List. No bank would ever hire them again as a teller. But come to think of it...maybe some big Wall Street financial would hire them for a top executive position. As my attorney once told me, "The easiest way to rob a bank is from the inside."

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2013 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6035340)
Most if not all of the school buildings in this shot appear to still be there, though heavily remodeled.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...nestschool.jpgUSCDL

In a shot over the roof of the corner Vine Street school addition--apparently taken from the roof of the DPW building--we can see
what must be the backlot of Metro Pictures.

Thank you for your expansive decoding of Vine & Romaine. It was extremely enjoyable to read.

Remodeled Vine Street School:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M...601%2520AM.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u...353%2520AM.jpg
gsv

Vine Street was yet another of Marilyn Monroe's schools. She was a student here when lodging at the orphanage over the road and south a bit.

And, of course the old Metro lot is still there, now Red Studios, with its hard-to-like gate:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...328%2520AM.jpg
gsv

belmont bob Mar 2, 2013 6:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6035767)
Thank you for your expansive decoding of Vine & Romaine. It was extremely enjoyable to read.


And, of course the old Metro lot is still there, now Red Studios, with its hard-to-like gate:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...328%2520AM.jpg
gsv

not only hard-to-like but someone has to walk out on that to raise and lower the flag.. and i wonder how close that steel pole is to the electric line. when the wind blows...not someplace i'm going to go...smh

BifRayRock Mar 2, 2013 7:59 PM

Keeping an eye peeled for the Moscow Inn and noticed its one-time-neighbor "La Boheme" on Sunset (1929-33). (Later known as the Trocadero and not to be confused with the Boheme on Santa Monica.) This fits with the 1929 "Amusement" map. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8036 According to some sources, La Boheme offered more than just dining and dancing. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9558 Just ask the cabbie reading the paper. (He probably knows all about the "Cuckoo Clock" on Beverly Blvd and the Moscow Inn!)


"8610" Sunset Blvd??
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...fee&DMROTATE=0 USC Digital


Circa 1935 - The Trocadero
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics31/00065367.jpgLapl

1934 - Deputy Sheriffs with "amusement" devices seized from the likes of the Old Colony Club, the Clover Club and the Cafe La Boheme.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics40/00039604.jpgLapl


BifRayRock Mar 2, 2013 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5694770)
This odd sculpture is similar to the Richfield 'monument'. (found on the same cd I made years ago)

http://imageshack.us/a/img99/1207/aa...roughsdotc.jpg
possibly ebay

What's odd is that the 'monument/sculpture' in the mystery photo has nothing to do with the nearby Fox Belmont.
It is advertising 'The Gaucho' at Grauman's Chinese way up on Hollywood Boulevard! So why is it located on S. Vermont?
And the 'statue' looks nothing like a gaucho...if anything, it resembles Napoleon.___

Speaking of "Unique" advertising and cafes, anyone familiar with Ye Bull Pen Inn at 533 South Grand? I hear it's "Famous For Steaks." (I wouldn't ask if the placard included the words "great" or "fine." :koko:)

Undated
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics25/00062246.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics18/00008775.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics18/00008776.jpgAll from Lapl




ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2013 8:35 PM

The Los Angeles Rubber Stamp Co. at 131 S. Spring Street

date 1913
http://imageshack.us/a/img11/3893/aa...ubberstamp.jpg
ebay




..before they moved to their new home at 1502 S. Los Angeles St. (see below)


ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2013 8:51 PM

and just around the corner from the Los Angeles Rubber Stamp Co. at 131 S. Spring St. was the O.C. Zahn Painting Co. at 231 W. First St.



http://imageshack.us/a/img194/8898/a...erhead1910.jpg
ebay

As far as I can figure, this is a history report (by Zara Zahn, the owner's daughter perhaps?)
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BifRayRock Mar 2, 2013 8:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5442666)
This is a long shot, but does anyone recognize this small streamline building?
It's unidentified in the lapl archive.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1...iedbuildin.jpg
Herman Schultheis at http://www.lapl.org/

Besides the photographer's name, the biggest clue is clearly the address 4032 (minus the name of the street). _________

Whether or not it was located on Wilshire, had I been an out-of-town patient visiting one of the Doctors in the building (for gland op. checkup), I might have been inclined to stay at the "World's Finest Motor Court": The Biltmore Motor Inn. Just hope the Doc allows eating and imbibing at the Cafe.

11827 Ventura Blvd. - Undated, but probably 1937-38 (Herman Schultheis) (Sorry if this is a repost. I searched.)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/spnb01/00007001.jpgLAPL


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3003/2...dd959b78_z.jpghttp://farm4.staticflickr.com/3003/2...dd959b78_z.jpg

MichaelRyerson Mar 2, 2013 9:58 PM

Hahaha. I now know where that beautiful little building is. We've looked so long. A couple of months ago I even went so far as to have a friend of mine who is an associate curator at the Architecture and Design Museum down on Wilshire to look at our little dog-eared image and he passed it around to his cohorts but still nothing but now I know. Google Map the Biltmore Motor Inn on Ventura Boulevard and then walk the cursor around the corner to Carpenter Avenue and look at the addresses. We need an aerial to be sure. I'm looking now.

revheavyg Mar 2, 2013 9:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6033821)
The La Merced Tract is part of the Montebello Oil Field & may be the location in the old pic:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-K...404%2520PM.jpg
http://losangelesrevisited.blogspot....llo-hills.html

Much of it has been redeveloped, but it's still pumping:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...950%2520PM.jpg
google maps

And thank you Graybeard, fascinating info at the link you posted.

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psa1e8b84a.jpg
I own three blocks downtown, I've got oil in Bakersfield, pumping, pumping, pumping! What's it for but to buy us anything we want!
I couldn't resist!!

BifRayRock Mar 2, 2013 10:01 PM




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Photograph caption dated January 18, 1940 reads, "Here is the home at 4709 Norwich, North Hollywood, in the exclusive Sherman Oaks district, where Brandstatter invited his last guest - Death. His body was found in his car by his wife and Larry Adlon, an employee." Lapl
4709 Norwich - 1940. (Evidence of just an oil leak in the driveway or more?)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00092/00092913.jpgLapl


Eddie Brandstatter, 1940
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00092/00092912.jpg

Quote:

Eddie Brandstatter was one of Hollywood's greatest early restaurateurs. A native of France, he worked in Paris, London and New York restaurants before moving to Los Angeles in the 1910s. In 1920 he was joint owner and manager of the Sunset Inn in Santa Monica. In 1923 he built the famous Cafe Montmartre, designed by Meyer and Holler, at a cost of $150,000. This establishment was described as "the center of Hollywood life", where stars usually frequented, and which was the place to see and be seen. In 1929 Brandstatter opened the Embassy Club, a private and exclusive venue for his Hollywood friends, but due to financial troubles, opened the club to the general public in 1932. That same year Brandstatter declared bankruptcy and sold Montmartre. At one point, he was charged with grand theft in a dispute with Hollywood real estate developer C.E. Toberman for having stolen furnishings, drapes, china, and a large "nude statue" of a woman, as well as other valuables and was convicted, though he was given two years probation after returning the property. In 1933 he bounced back and opened Sardi's, only to be again convicted for illegally selling "stimulants" at the establishment. Sadly, Sardi's Restaurant was destroyed by fire on November 2, 1936. The last venue Brandstatter opened and operated was the Bohemian Grill on Vine. On January 20, 1940 Brandstatter's wife, Helen, found the once-famous restaurateur dead in their home garage in Sherman Oaks. He had committed suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning in his car. He was 54.
Quote:

Prohibition was in force, but Brandstatter didn't expect his customers to endure a night of dining and dancing stone-cold sober. Everybody brought a hip flask, and if you drank it dry, there was a bootlegger on the premises to top it off for you, though people grumbled about his prices.

On the other hand, you were at the Montmartre, the center of the universe. Outside, people were lined up down the block hoping for a chance to dine with the stars. So shut up and pay.

In 1929, Brandstatter made a disastrous mistake by opening a private venue, the Embassy Club, for his Hollywood friends. Now that they had paid their dues, the stars started partying at the Embassy Club instead of the Montmartre, and since the stars weren't dining there anymore, ordinary people stopped coming too.http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr...atter-20110414



ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2013 10:39 PM




I believe this was part of the old Biltmore Motor Inn.

http://imageshack.us/a/img836/9077/aabbiltmoremotel.jpg
gsv


The 1934 Carlton Motor Lodge is next door. -we covered it here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8508


http://imageshack.us/a/img145/521/aabcarltonaerial.jpg
google aerial



Carlton Motor Lodge
http://imageshack.us/a/img33/2979/aa...studiocity.jpg
ebay
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MichaelRyerson Mar 2, 2013 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6035976)
I believe this is the old Biltmore Motor Inn.

http://imageshack.us/a/img836/9077/aabbiltmoremotel.jpg
gsv


It's right next door to the Carlton Motor Lodge.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8508


http://imageshack.us/a/img145/521/aabcarltonaerial.jpg
google aerial



Carlton Motor Lodge
http://imageshack.us/a/img33/2979/aa...studiocity.jpg
ebay
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I'm having trouble finding a specific building segment from the Biltmore to conform with this building. The architecture is certainly from the same streamline moderne school but I can't find anything from the Biltmore that matches up with this building. Also the Carleton predates what we would think the Schultheis' picture date would be (mid-late '30's) and the Carleton promotional material shows it being at 11811 Ventura. The Biltmore Motor Inn's address was 11827 which puts it west of the Carleton, nearer the corner with Carpenter, not east.

tovangar2 Mar 2, 2013 11:25 PM

Manual Arts High School
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by revheavyg (Post 6035947)
"I own three blocks downtown, I've got oil in Bakersfield, pumping, pumping, pumping! What's it for but to buy us anything we want!"
I couldn't resist!!

My great-aunt owned a pair of high-producing wells.
They gave her a very nice life :-)



All this Streamline is an excuse to post some pix of Manual Arts High School by John & Donald Parkinson, built after the 1933 Long Beach quake:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r...115%2520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...501%2520PM.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-j...759%2520PM.jpg
http://digital-libraries.saic.edu/cd...ool/mode/exact

4131 S Vermont:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...952%2520PM.jpg
http://lookingforjohnparkinson.shutterfly.com/84[/img]

The new buildings replaced the original 1910 campus, also by Parkinson:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-z...334%2520PM.jpg
http://www.westadams-normandie.com/lapl/Schools.php

Some hard times at MAHS:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...banks-20110924

Stiles O Clements also did a Streamline High School, Thomas Jefferson HS, as GW has already posted.


I'm hoping against hope Zara Zahn didn't get an "A" on her History essay :-(

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2013 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6036010)
I'm hoping against hope Zara Zahn didn't get an "A" on her History essay :-(

I loved the typography and filigree of the O.C. Zahn Painting Co. logo
The 'history' lesson, not so much. :(

http://imageshack.us/a/img26/8898/aa...erhead1910.jpg
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